Some people in the defund crowd do want to get rid of the police though
Charles Barkley” we need to stop that defund Or abolish the police crap”
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Also is interesting that in many situations where the cops who fukk up are not white, they tend to take the L compared to white cops. 
Some people in anything are morons.
mastermind
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I don't disagree with that, but policing is not for serving the people and community. It's for serving the elites and property owners. Its why Brianna Taylor's killers were only charged with destruction of property and not of her life.
That's why you have to take away a significant portion of their funding.
AnonymityX1000
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Yeah, cause people just live in poor neighborhoods just cause. lolso to summarize....
the high homicide rate in our communities is everyone else's fault except our own, right?
and that way of thought is pretty much exactly why nothing will ever change
to anyone reading this exchange and this thread, if u got some money, just move, save yourself the stress. Do what white people been doing for years
black flight, and don't look back
keep your family safe
And even when Black people do have the money they are discriminated against by the mortgage and real estate industries making it hard to just move.
When people say 'God bless America' do you actually think God is specifically looking out for America or do you know it is a symbolic phrase meaning something else? Apply they to 'defund the police'.
Mr Hate Coffee
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Another dumbass c00n that don't realize what defunding means in this context...we are overpoliced in black communities. Jesus Christ always someone black defending these cops...
Using the word "defund" was poor marketing. It is what it is. BLM gotta hold that L and the unintentional boost it gave to Trump's side.
"Black Lives Matter" is genius marketing btw. Even if it is a bit too soft for my tastes.
They need better training but for some strange reason were the only developed country with this problem
peak smart dumb nikka shyt here.
As someone who listens to Political Podcasts during the week,take time out to look up your City's Budget...from what I can gather Billions is placed into Policing in say NYC but its less placed on School,Infrastructure etc and you can see why Defund The Police is a thing....Billis for the Police so they can pull up in Riot Armor,M16s and Tanks???
AnonymityX1000
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Hmmm . . . what would have been better?
And are these phrases like officially made in a board room with focus groups and things?
I thought it was more spontaneously done while in the moment of protest.
I hear you because a lot of dumb and disingenuous people either don't understand or are being purposely misleading but how could it have been done differently?
so to summarize....
the high homicide rate in our communities is everyone else's fault except our own, right?
and that way of thought is pretty much exactly why nothing will ever change
to anyone reading this exchange and this thread, if u got some money, just move, save yourself the stress. Do what white people been doing for years
black flight, and don't look back
keep your family safe
No one said it was only everyone else's fault. But you seem to be ignoring all of the outside factors. Do you believe black people are more predisposed to killing each other than other races?
LOL @ just move. Like escaping generations of systematic inflicted poverty is just a fukking moral decision.
threattonature
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That buffoonery is cool when talking about something as inconsequential as sports. But if he's going to be speaking on important issues like this then he needs to either study or shut the fukk up. Hardly anybody is saying get rid of the police. They're saying to repurpose all the money that is given to police departments to improve the communities with the hope of lessening the need for police in the first place. If not that at least use that money to provide better training and more thorough background checks of anyone looking to join the department. They also need to bust up the unions and remove the relationship between prosecutors and police. As well as holding them accountable for their fukk ups.
People said the same thing about "Black Lives Matter" when it started. People that don't care about the substance aren't going to regardless, and is mostly concern trolling.
I think one of the main points a lot of people overlook is the fact that there will never be a large support and enactment of this kind of legislature until various aspect of the judicial and law enforcement apparatus changes. Because those inside of it have no incentive to change it, a lot of elbow rubbing, lobbying, quid pro quo and like-mindedness in regards to bias, bigoted, racist and classist ideals are shared but most of those in those institutions. Why change what has given you "power" and is literally the foundation of the country you "founded"? There is no impetus for them to enact change, outside of issuing lip-service and pandering which is much-ado about nothing. Until key positions, lifers (Supreme Court etc) and corrupt gatekeepers are rooted out there will be no change in the foreseeable future, at least not the real change that is needed.
For a system, group or individual that actually wanted and understood what a fair system is, it shouldn't be this hard to change something you say verbally as a country you want. But if we really analyze the history for what it really is, and not how were are told to interpret it via a political and "HIS-torical" lense, we would see that all the actions of this country is to protect the ideal they had for it when they came to colonize our ancestors and others that were already here. The hegemony of a "White society" with a serf/slave underclass that is given the illusion that the country is for everyone.
