Charles Barkley” we need to stop that defund Or abolish the police crap”

[Primetime]

Is the OP title an actual quote? Because i can't be bothered to hear Charles talk his nonsense.

But if that is the quote, then Barkley talkin about two different topics.. and, with the latter, he's an idiot who doesn't grasp that abolishing "qualified immunity" isn't the same as "abolishing police".

Ironically both Dems and Repubs agree that significant changes need to be made to the qualified immunity provision. The big issue right now is whether to outright abolish it (George Floyd Justice for Policing Act) or to make strong amendments that put heavier burden on the accused officer to prove they didn't act out of line (Braun Act).

Right now the Repubs are strongly against out-right eradicating it, whereas the Dems see something like the Braun act with still too many loopholes and not adequate police reform.

The George Floyd Act was approved by the House of Representatives (majority Dems) but will likely get shut down by the Senate (majority Repubs). There are 35 Senate seats up for reelection in 2020, in which 23 of them are currently held by Repubs. Don't just vote blindly; make sure whoever you're voting for (Dem or Repub) clearly states their stance regarding the George Floyd Act.

Peace

 

[Trust Me]

I hope the Taylor case helps shed even more light on the corruption that lies within our justice system and how it attracts, promotes, and protects corrupt LEOs, AG’s, prosecutors, etc.

Keep in mind though that terrorist cops are only the symptom. The head of the dragon are the police unions and their influence upon state attorney generals, police chiefs, and politicians at the state level.

How Police Unions Became Such Powerful Opponents to Reform Efforts

The sad part is that the good LEOs get caught in the middle. The “Thin Blue Line” isn’t between us and the bad guys it’s between LEOs and accountability. And unions wouldn’t have it any other way. LEOs literally live by a different set of laws than you and I.

The Plight of the Police Whistleblower | The Crime Report

#DefundThePolice doesn’t mean LESS cops. It means deconstructing the system and rebuilding it again. In a discussion with an LEO I layed out what I would want to see and think it would absolutely change the way policing is done and keep everyone safer.

1) Make the police academy a 4yr degree. Focus will be on negotiating tactics and skills as well as constitutional law. Training will also include 2 yrs of jiu jitsu or grappling training. The last 6 months will be arms training.

Current academy training is 4-5 months. It’s a semester and BAM you get a gun and qualified immunity.

2) First one-two years is taser only. You must EARN your issue weapon. 4 yrs of intense negotiations training + high level hand-to-hand combat training + taser means new LEOs must rely on their mind vs shoot first reaction. Rookies are paired with experienced LEO with issued weapon.

3) Starting pay: $100k/yr + full benefits. The pay should reflect the positions responsibilities.

4) Minimum 10 yr commitment to a specific area plus you MUST physically live INSIDE this area. Living among the people you protect and SERVE bodes well for community relations as well as community safety. 7% raise for every 2yrs beyond the 10 minimum.

5) No union associations. You gotta live by the same rules and laws as the rest of us. No special protection just because you’re an LEO.

6) If you get fired you can never be an LEO ever again. anywhere. Ever.

As a tax payer I would ABSOLUTELY vote for a tax to pay for this. I want the BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST. It is NOT too much to ask.

Until there is radical change to the system...nothing will change.

#LetHerSpeak

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[Rekkapryde]

Well then hold them fukkin accountable when they fukk up then

 

[Trust Me]

Cool beans, this ain't it


There are solutions we need to implement to better our communities, and plenty of ppl have some great ideas but this shyt y'all talking isn't one of them


Carry on with this retarded thread.


I'm out

That’s a good way to attack the problem fam. Ain’t no one here against another. We’re talking about real life issues that need change. This ain’t no need to take your ball and go home.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Well he's not wrong

but in the current popular zeitgeist (on this forum and most of the black community in general) it seems pretty trendy to run with retarded ideas these days

How is defunding the police going to diminish the single biggest threat currently to the black community?

Which is the fact that 97 percent of black americans are murdered by other black americans, and not white supremacy contrary to popular belief. (an important fact that needs to be seriously addressed but is often shot down by childish "what about black on black crime" memes created by millionaire agents who live in white gated communities like Tariq Nasheed)

Men Lie, women lie, numbers don't.

I'll surely be called a c00n for saying real shyt tho

and I'm content with that, better to be a logical realist than to be liked by retards



Shout out to @BrothaZay

The black on black crime deflection, while true, is bullshyt because there's a HUGE difference in the fact that nikkaz goto jail when they get caught doing said crime. COPS GET OFF! THAT IS THE ISSUE!

 

[Take It In Blood]

The black on black crime deflection, while true, is bullshyt because there's a HUGE difference in the fact that nikkaz goto jail when they get caught doing said crime. COPS GET OFF! THAT IS THE ISSUE!

maybe I'm just taking it personally

but as someone who personally knows plenty of blk people (family members included) who were victims of black on black homicide

i legit don't give a fuk about that less than 3 percent bullshyt

Its definitely indeed sad when it happens, and things need to be fixed but it don't happen often enough for me to get emotionally riled up about it because the media told me to

i personally don't know not one nikka that got killed by a cop and the majority of yal probably don't neither

I'd rather focus on the wound that needs stitches and stables before i worry about the scrape that needs a band aid

Shout out to Gillie

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Defund the Police and then what? All criminals will do is be more brazen with what they do, crime is always evolving and becoming more sophisticated, e.g. cyber crime. And to combat that, more powers will be given to government agencies or even worse the Army patrolling the streets? That's what will happen if crime becomes too out of control. And then their is the possibly of private security being hired to "Police" due to the normal police being over run due to lack of funding. And the government will turn round and blame the people for saying well you wanted to defund the police, we've had to put these measures in. And by the way you're still paying for it in some way, so reality is you defund the police and you end up funding it's more secretive replacement. Then over time more rights will be lost by the general public, with more laws being put in place.

Puts *Tin foil hat down*

They need to cull the incompetent and corrupt police and give the rest of them better training. With stricter rules and make them more accountable for their actions.

 

[mastermind]

What does anything regarding how police funds are used have to do with black families being literally frightened to walk down certain black neighborhoods at night?

Because the money that goes to police could goto social programs like job training, drug treatment, mental institutions or even schools.

An overwhelmingly majority of the time, Crime is a problem with the environment, not people.

And on top of that, it’s been proven police don’t stop crime. You sound like a Reaganite

 

[Pure Water]

Defund the police does not mean abolish the police.

 

[Take It In Blood]

Because the money that goes to police could goto social programs like job training, drug treatment, mental institutions or even schools.

An overwhelmingly majority of the time, Crime is a problem with the environment, not people.

And on top of that, it’s been proven police don’t stop crime. You sound like a Reagnite.

howcome these countries across seas got all this money to give folks UBI, have extremely low crime rates, great schools, healthcare and financial safety nets?

americans are just fukkin retarded. Its time to admit that

when u got single individuals worth billions of dollars then properly funding any single institution shouldn't be a problem

shouldn't have to defund shyt

 

[duncanthetall]

It looks like you don’t know what ‘defunding the police’ means.




This is a step towards defunding them. Some of the funds taken from the yearly budget would go towards this.


Honest question, did you know that’s what ‘defunding the police’ meant. I’m being serious.. because A LOT of people run with the notion that it means to ‘get rid of’ the police. It looks like that’s what Chuck thought too.

99% of the population probably doesn’t know what it means. That’s why it’s a stupid way to describe it. Easily attackable by the right.

 

[ECA]

Cops are actually an inconvenience. Like legit not helpful at all. C00ns thinking cops solve actual crimes like it's NYPD Blue

 

[NYC Rebel]

howcome these countries across seas got all this money to give folks UBI, have extremely low crime rates, great schools, healthcare and financial safety nets?

americans are just fukkin retarded. Its time to admit that

when u got single individuals worth billions of dollars then properly funding any single institution shouldn't be a problem

shouldn't have to defund shyt

You are so uneducated on this.

 

[Rekkapryde]

maybe I'm just taking it personally

but as someone who personally knows plenty of blk people (family members included) who were victims of black on black homicide

i legit don't give a fuk about that less than 3 percent bullshyt

Its definitely indeed sad when it happens, and things need to be fixed but it don't happen often enough for me to get emotionally riled up about it because the media told me to

i personally don't know not one nikka that got killed by a cop and the majority of yal probably don't neither

I'd rather focus on the wound that needs stitches and stables before i worry about the scrape that needs a band aid

Shout out to Gillie

Walter Scott was my first cousin so it definitely resonates more personally seeing a family member as a national hashtag.

I get your point as well. But again we goto jail when caught, and cops get off even when blatantly in the wrong. If cops were being arrested and jailed like a regular person, it'd be one thing. But they aren't. I don't agree with abolishing the police but we are literally paying for them fukkin up. That shyt is ridiculous.

 

[Voice of Reason]

maybe I'm just taking it personally

but as someone who personally knows plenty of blk people (family members included) who were victims of black on black homicide

i legit don't give a fuk about that less than 3 percent bullshyt

Its definitely indeed sad when it happens, and things need to be fixed but it don't happen often enough for me to get emotionally riled up about it because the media told me to

i personally don't know not one nikka that got killed by a cop and the majority of yal probably don't neither

I'd rather focus on the wound that needs stitches and stables before i worry about the scrape that needs a band aid

Shout out to Gillie

Police brutality is the extension of centuries of state sponsored terrorism against black folks of course we are pissed. Black on black crime is a problem as well but that doesn’t mean we should not focus on police brutality