Captain America: Civil War (Official Thread)

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More Leaks on Spidy/Sony/Marvel:
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Additional "Sony Hack" emails have surfaced, and they reveal details about that possible Marvel/Sony deal, the reason why Andrew Garfield might not return as Spider-Man, The Amazing Spider-Man 3being scrapped, Captain America's Sinister Six role.
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The "Sony Hack" debacle is the gift which keeps on giving, and the latest chain of emails shed some light on some of the Spider-Man details we've been hearing over the past few days! Based on emails seen by Mashable, Andrew Garfield's comments about studio interference being responsible for the tepid response to The Amazing Spider-Man 2 have upset the wrong people, especially as he failed to appear at a Sony corporate dinner in July which would have seen him meet Sony CEO Kaz Hirai and a number of other executives. However, "His absence (with less than an hour of notice) was seen as an affront and slight by the company's Tokyo bosses,"according to the site. As a result, he's been effectively fired as talk of a new Spider-Man began in October.

"I love introducing pp [Peter Parker] in cap but I know it comes with so many things since we won't give them what they want what will we give them? We can say it's a cameo but I'll bet it's more and will involve some of his world and it will be peter and spidey right," Amy Pascal said in an email to producer Matt Tolmach at one point, questioning how Spider-Man might fit into Marvel's longterm plans. Even more interesting though is a memo Pascal wrote to herself with issues they would need to take up with Marvel Studios if Sony were to agree to their rebooting of the character in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. "if we have spiderman in cap 3. what is our fee and our back end. need script approval, casting approval of sm and aunt may and consultation of mays house in queens and any other spiderman locations we may need in future movies. also approval of new spiderman costume> how long is he is the movie? how closely does it follow the civil war story line? does the world find out who spiderman is? are there any other characters from the spiderman universe they are using? can we use one of the marvel characters in our future spiderman movies not produced by marvel.can we use cap to set up ss? can drew work with the russos to get this done? are we renting him out?" Some interesting questions!

As you might imagine, this cameo (at this point, it seems as if they were only talking about lending Spider-Man to Marvel Studios for a single appearance) wouldn't have been free, and Pascal discussed both merchandising rights and taking a cut of the box office for the third Captain America movie. As for a solo Spider-Man outing following this appearance, Sony wanted to retain creative control over everything from the casting to script and director, something which may have put Marvel off. In fact, they wanted Marvel to consult on marketing materials ("because they are really good") but didn't appear to be willing to offer anything more than Spider-Man existing in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The plan would be to shoot this in 2015/16 for a 2017 release.

Even more questions raised by Pascal give us an idea of where this potential crossover could lead:

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would we have to dismantle ss?
can drew goddard write the sm original?
who would direct the sm movie?
what do we do with matt tolmach and avi?
they can not put spidey in future spiderman movies or team ups.

we need to keep animation rights for a theatrical relaesse spiderman move to be directed by lord and miller. we need to be able to make spiderman movies after this movie we need to be able to make the girl team up movie
is it possible to put spidey in worlds without other characcters once we is with iron man and cap
can we have him in cap and then 6 months later in ss
we have a right to co finance any movie that spiderman is in and get a production credit

we get to make future movies with our characters and theirs in a collorative way but we dont need their approval. marvel produces a bunch of spiderman movies for sony the way they do for disney....all spiderman dominent movie are financed snd marketed by us event though disney will have the mrech on eerything
we can put the marvel and even disney logo on ours if we can put sony on theirs


As you can see, they seemed to really come around to the idea of Marvel taking over the Spider-Man franchise, but still wanted to push ahead with an animated feature helmed by Phil Lord and Chris Miller and that llive-action female-led spinoff. They were also hoping thatCaptain America: Civil War could somehow help set up the events of Sinister Six, but do seem open to scrapping that movie if necessary. It even sounds like they want to use some of Marvel's characters in their Spider-Man movies! Ultimately, this shows us that there's a lot to be worked out if such a deal goes ahead, and as talks apparently fell through after the emails you see here, the fate of the Spider-Man franchise is now unclear.

Source: Mashable
 

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Time is definitely not on their side. Too bad they wrapped Daredevil already. They could have dropped Spider-man references in that, had him pop up on Agents of Shield and Age Of Ultron too. They wouldn't have had a character appear in all 3 parts of the Universe yet, so that would be a first and lend some importance to his role.

It's :mindblown: that Sony didn't want to take the 60/40 deal. Sign on the line, negotiate get a cut of that $300 Million toy revenue and keep it moving. Is it really that difficult?



Nah - Peter was the poster-boy for the pro Registration side. Tony convinces him to unmask on National TV and then his life goes down the shytter. If you think about it - pretty realistic. I'm pretty peaceful on here, but I would give a couple of posters the :ufdup:if I met them in real life. Spider-Man has been foiling supervillain plans for years and talking shyt while doing it....:pachaha:


T'Challa was getting married to Storm in the books around that time and he invited both sides of the conflict to the wedding on some 'Oh - is Black Panther going to have to mediate a bytch?' but they weren't hearing it.

I worded it poorly but I meant would they focus on Spider-Man instead of Black Panther, not that they'd share the same story....I dunno if you seen the Marvel event from a while back but RDJ and Chris Evans came out, acting like they were gonna fight, then Chadwick Boseman came out and refused to pick a side. So I assume he's gonna be the neutral ground between the two sides in the movie.

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More Leaks on Spidy/Sony/Marvel:
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Additional "Sony Hack" emails have surfaced, and they reveal details about that possible Marvel/Sony deal, the reason why Andrew Garfield might not return as Spider-Man, The Amazing Spider-Man 3being scrapped, Captain America's Sinister Six role.
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Source: Mashable

Jesus christ this bytch is INSANE, HOW YOU ASKING FOR A CUT OF CAPTAIN AMERICA 3'S MONEY IF SPIDERMAN IS ONLY A fukkING CAMEO APPEARANCE AND CREATIVE CONTROL!!!??? :mindblown: who this bytch think she is.....???

Also Garfield was fired from amazing spiderman anyways when he didnt show up for the company dinner to meet the japanese president Kaz??!?!? :dahell: I guess he dont give a fukk anyways. it might just be time for sony to give spiderman back. it's not worth all this fukking headache...

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Avengers 3 and the rest of the Marvel Movies will Dwarf anything Sony can think about at this time... the game is over...
 

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Jesus christ this bytch is INSANE, HOW YOU ASKING FOR A CUT OF CAPTAIN AMERICA 3'S MONEY IF SPIDERMAN IS ONLY A fukkING CAMEO APPEARANCE AND CREATIVE CONTROL!!!??? :mindblown: who this bytch think she is.....???

Also Garfield was fired from amazing spiderman anyways when he didnt show up for the company dinner to meet the japanese president Kaz??!?!? :dahell: I guess he dont give a fukk anyways. it might just be time for sony to give spiderman back. it's not worth all this fukking headache...

:mjlol:

Avengers 3 and the rest of the Marvel Movies will Dwarf anything Sony can think about at this time... the game is over...

:russ:

shyt reminds me of Lifetime making a Clarice Starling series, and NBC offered cameos of Hannibal and Will if they could use Clarice....and Lifetime said no like they were sitting on a goldmine.

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I worded it poorly but I meant would they focus on Spider-Man instead of Black Panther, not that they'd share the same story....I dunno if you seen the Marvel event from a while back but RDJ and Chris Evans came out, acting like they were gonna fight, then Chadwick Boseman came out and refused to pick a side. So I assume he's gonna be the neutral ground between the two sides in the movie.

Fred.
was, that took place before they got Spiderman
 
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