#CaneloCartel Drops Another Body: The Official Canelo Alvarez vs Miguel Cotto Thread (November 21St)

Who You With (bernie Mac voice)?

  • Canelo via KO (Man-down for the PR legend)

    Votes: 48 30.6%
  • Canelo via Decision (We'll take that)

    Votes: 45 28.7%
  • Cotto via KO (Young Dogs get put down)

    Votes: 17 10.8%
  • Cotto via Decision (The Sage uses his wits)

    Votes: 59 37.6%
  • Herrea and Peterson won (Danny fukked my bytch in her mouth)

    Votes: 6 3.8%
  • fukk the lakers/celtics #Knickstape

    Votes: 20 12.7%

  • Total voters
    157

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one thing i want to mention about canelo regarding that

historically mexican fighters who have been pro as early as canelo typically decline very early into their 30s
Stop being generous Pat. Brehs who start boxing pro at 15 usually have their equilibriums dislodged by 24
 

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when cotto throws a right hand he has a tendency to throw it with a clean up left hook a lot. a clean up left hook is a left hook that you throw off of a right hand. when you throw a right hand your hips square and your body weight transfers over to your front leg loading that body weight into a left hook that you can use to reset your body back into your stance when you throw it.

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when cotto is throwing a right hand with a clean up left hook he has a tendency to trade left hooks a lot.

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theres a saying in boxing that you should never hook with a hooker because when you turn your hips to throw a left hook you dont see it coming and you turn into it. that was how lucas matthysse knocked out lamont peterson. heres iran barkley and darrin van horn trading a pair of left hooks.

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bob foster was a guy that used to like to trade left hooks a lot. that worked out good for foster for a long time and then he fought joe frazier. cotto is a guy that likes to trade left hooks a lot.

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the saying is that you should never hook with a hooker and cotto has a good left hook. but taking a left hook to give a left hook does not always work out good every time for cotto. that was how cotto got hurt repeatedly against ricardo torres.

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i think its going to be interesting when cotto and canelo trade left hooks. a lot of things can go wrong when two guys are trading a pair of left hooks. you can try to block it with your right glove but because of the way your body is turning you can turn into it and it hurts you because you dont see it.

in the center of the ring cotto likes to work a jab and run in to steal a combo and get out. likes to be way out or way in. can run into counters on the way in and during a combo. does not throw a lot of counters but does throw a check hook.

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canelo is a good combination puncher but only when a guy is very stationary. when you show canelo some movement he gets very picky and ultimately very inactive. likes to counter. against cotto that means canelo can counter the jab or counter the combo. i think that canelo is going to try to wait for cotto to run in and counter the combo. i think that is going to cause canelo to be very inactive during rounds and cause cotto to have more freedom to work a jab in the center of the ring. cotto is in danger of being caught on the way in and during a combo but forces canelo to have to wait a lot to do it.

i dont think canelo can beat cotto waiting and countering. thats going to create a lot of dead gaps of prolonged inactivity and cotto is going to fill in the gaps created by it with jabs. i think canelo has to try to force cotto back to the ropes because cotto has a tendency to willingly sit on and fight off of the ropes a lot. cotto can get very stationary on the ropes and that means canelo can throw more than one punch at a time there. however when canelo is coming forward he likes to maintain a lot of space to counter on the way in and that is going to give cotto a lot of room to get off of the ropes.

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cotto has a tendency to get hit with an uppercut because of the way he leans into it.

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i think canelo has to be a lot more aggressive and try to incorporate it on the way in. but i dont think thats the kind of fighter that canelo is.

i think canelo is going to come in very carefully looking for something to counter on the way in.

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i think that is ultimately going to create a lot of inactivity for canelo and i think cotto is going to use a lot of movement and outwork canelo in the center of the ring.

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cotto by decision.
 
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@Yuzo i hope nelo has practice cutting off ring better unlike vs lara, so he can get cotto against the ropes stationary to tee off on combos.
 

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when cotto throws a right hand he has a tendency to throw it with a clean up left hook a lot. a clean up left hook is a left hook that you throw off of a right hand. when you throw a right hand your hips square and your body weight transfers over to your front leg loading that body weight into a left hook that you can use to reset your body back into your stance when you throw it.

tUDHd4H.gif


dINHT06.gif


when cotto is throwing a right hand with a clean up left hook he has a tendency to trade left hooks a lot.

aEOvWKO.gif


theres a saying in boxing that you should never hook with a hooker because when you turn your hips to throw a left hook you dont see it coming and you turn into it. that was how lucas matthysse knocked out lamont peterson. heres iran barkley and darrin van horn trading a pair of left hooks.

QeHzhW3.gif


bob foster was a guy that used to like to trade left hooks a lot. that worked out good for foster for a long time and then he fought joe frazier. cotto is a guy that likes to trade left hooks a lot.

WbYpVRT.gif


VdVp3Aj.gif


SKzAFMp.gif


the saying is that you should never hook with a hooker and cotto has a good left hook. but taking a left hook to give a left hook does not always work out good every time for cotto. that was how cotto got hurt repeatedly against ricardo torres.

wjDQpFI.gif


i think its going to be interesting when cotto and canelo trade left hooks. a lot of things can go wrong when two guys are trading a pair of left hooks. you can try to block it with your right glove but because of the way your body is turning you can turn into it and it hurts you because you dont see it.

in the center of the ring cotto likes to work a jab and run in to steal a combo and get out. likes to be way out or way in. can run into counters on the way in and during a combo. does not throw a lot of counters but does throw a check hook.

sKM7ZA6.gif


canelo is a good combination puncher but only when a guy is very stationary. when you show canelo some movement he gets very picky and ultimately very inactive. likes to counter. against cotto that means canelo can counter the jab or counter the combo. i think that canelo is going to try to wait for cotto to run in and counter the combo. i think that is going to cause canelo to be very inactive during rounds and cause cotto to have more freedom to work a jab in the center of the ring. cotto is in danger of being caught on the way in and during a combo but forces canelo to have to wait a lot to do it.

i dont think canelo can beat cotto waiting and countering. thats going to create a lot of dead gaps of prolonged inactivity and cotto is going to fill in the gaps created by it with jabs. i think canelo has to try to force cotto back to the ropes because cotto has a tendency to willingly sit on and fight off of the ropes a lot. cotto can get very stationary on the ropes and that means canelo can throw more than one punch at a time there. however when canelo is coming forward he likes to maintain a lot of space to counter on the way in and that is going to give cotto a lot of room to get off of the ropes.

OUciiwj.gif


cotto has a tendency to get hit with an uppercut because of the way he leans into it.

6ig7Qha.gif


h7C5Bzy.gif


i think canelo has to be a lot more aggressive and try to incorporate it on the way in. but i dont think thats the kind of fighter that canelo is.

i think canelo is going to come in very carefully looking for something to counter on the way in.

oXajhNm.gif


i think that is ultimately going to create a lot of inactivity for canelo and i think cotto is going to use a lot of movement and outwork canelo in the center of the ring.

XWVyDck.gif


cotto by decision.
Great post! I too think Canelo is going to try to counter and outbox Cotto. I have Cotto winning 8-4.
 

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this is so stupid on both men...these nikkas are taxing themselves on a catchweight when they could have easily made weight at the full middleweight limit of 160..so fukking stupid lol


How are they taxing themselves the last few lbs are water they will both make weight comfortably :russell:

It's makes sense for both of them it's only stupid to you because 97g will be brought down to 155.15 to get that work when they fight him, we see you. :youngsabo:
 

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How are they taxing themselves the last few lbs are water they will both make weight comfortably :russell:

It's makes sense for both of them it's only stupid to you because 97g will be brought down to 155.15 to get that work when they fight him, we see you. :youngsabo:
Making 160 > making 155 for a middleweight fight

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They saying canelo looking thin on boxingscene
Not surprised..he's prolly drained

*edit* happen to see that video of him shadowboxing...he does look a little dry...i honestly can't see him being able to do whatever he's been doing much longer to cut weight
 
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