Candace Cameron Bure Defends Her "Submissive Role" With Husband: "I Want Him to Lead"

[Schmoove]

Diss the bible but pick and choose which biblical principle to big-up, brehs. :jesusufdup::jesusufdup::jesusufdup:

 

[Crakface]

It depends on people's personalities. Some guys don't like to make important decisions...I have male friends whom when I ask what they feel like eating, they don't know what restaurant they feel like going to or what to order....and just let me make the decisions and like that I can take charge. I'm obviously not like this with everyone, but you'll always have one person who is the alpha and that person will take charge. Sometimes, the alpha becomes the beta when there is a stronger alpha in the picture.

If you're man isnt a leader then hes a loser. Bottom line. Really, whats that say about you if you with a weak ass man that needs your leadership skills.

 

[Desirous]

If you're man isnt a leader then hes a loser. Bottom line. Really, whats that say about you if you with a weak ass man that needs your leadership skills.

I like assertive men, so doesn't really apply to me. I'm just saying that it depends on people's personalities and some women prefer to be the leaders and some men like to step back and let the woman lead.

 

[swimmingpools]

Not going to even bother reading the whole thread because I know its full of mess, but I agree with her. My parents taught us well.

 

[Malik]

This is the overall point Im trying to make here, black. When you speak of traditional gender roles of the past, men carried overwhelming authority in the household because of an asymmetry in knowledge and real world experience between men and women. Women werent encouraged, or generally allowed to think critically, pursue higher education, develop careers, etc, so generally they werent equipped to deal with matters outside of home making or agrarian work. Men had the ability to make the more sound decision more often than not.

We now have a globalized economy where its financially demanded that women pursue education, and develop careers. One income households are a thing of the past. If you have a wife that is college educated, and has a challenging career, you mean to tell me you can convince her that what you say should go simply because you have a dyck? I get the idea that a man is supposed to carry a certain amount of respect, and I do believe in gender roles to a degree --- but submission and obedience isnt of interest to me, and is largely unreasonable in this day and age.

I understand what you saying. I just see things another way.

Women have been getting degrees and professional jobs for decades now. But even with most families now being two-income households, most communities are still very patriarchal. Its only the black community that has an issue with men being men. And you keep saying obedience and submission. A wife should submit to her husband but, the way you type it makes it sound like the husband has a whip and chain and he's locking his wife in a dungeon or something man....

I'll give you two different examples. My godfather is married to my godmother. My godmother has her masters, works HR for a large pharmaceutical company and makes a nice salary. So she is this "college educated, challenging career, not taking no crap" woman you're talking about. My godfather is on disability. He hurt his back years ago. It's been so long, I can't remember what he used to do before. They have three grown successful kids now and two grandkids. Extremely tight-knit family. You would think that my godmother would run things in that household bringing home the bacon but, she doesnt.........when I go over there, its my godfather's rules I have to respect. He got the grumpy old black man thing down to a tee.

The second man is my pastor. I'm very close with him. When I was growing up, he'd take me golfing and out to breakfast. He's rich. Drives a Bentley, lives in a mcmansion, had long family money beforehand and eventually sent his own two sons to Wharton. His wife is college educated and accomplished in her own right, but, I know from being around him extensively that he's the rock of his family. Two men on polar ends of the socioeconomic strata....one man rich, the other not even working anymore, yet they're both the heads of their households. It seems pretty normal to me.

 

[Crakface]

I like assertive men, so doesn't really apply to me. I'm just saying that it depends on people's personalities and some women prefer to be the leaders and some men like to step back and let the woman lead.

Do you think its good for boys to be raised in homes where the woman is assertive and the father is, weak.

 

[Schmoove]

I understand what you saying. I just see things another way.

Women have been getting degrees and professional jobs for decades now. But even with most families now being two-income households, most communities are still very patriarchal. Its only the black community that has an issue with men being men. And you keep saying obedience and submission. A wife should submit to her husband but, the way you type it makes it sound like the husband has a whip and chain and he's locking his wife in a dungeon or something man....

I'll give you two different examples. My godfather is married to my godmother. My godmother has her masters, works HR for a large pharmaceutical company and makes a nice salary. So she is this "college educated, challenging career, not taking no crap" woman you're talking about. My godfather is on disability. He hurt his back years ago. It's been so long, I can't remember what he used to do before. They have three grown successful kids now and two grandkids. Extremely tight-knit family. You would think that my godmother would run things in that household bringing home the bacon but, she doesnt.........when I go over there, its my godfather's rules I have to respect. He got the grumpy old black man thing down to a tee.

The second man is my pastor. I'm very close with him. When I was growing up, he'd take me golfing and out to breakfast. He's rich. Drives a Bentley, lives in a mcmansion, had long family money beforehand and eventually sent his own two sons to Wharton. His wife is college educated and accomplished in her own right, but, I know from being around him extensively that he's the rock of his family. Two men on polar ends of the socioeconomic strata....one man rich, the other not even working anymore, yet they're both the heads of their households. It seems pretty normal to me.

Young black folk live in such a delusional state of dysfunction.

The examples you posted are supposed to be the blueprint...the standard. That is real life right there.

But these heathens were raised on street music laced in allegorical demon worship, and don't even realize it.

Submission is a virtue. The man has to submit to God, and the wife should submit to the husband.

It's really simple. Yet, we make it complicated (God isn't real! Christianity is slavery!).

It's so demonic, friends.

 

[Taadow]

Since people are throwin' out these involved examples, I'll give one.


This may have even happened to you:




Say YOU are a teen again...you wanna do something you know you'll need permission for.
So you go to Mama. "Ma, can I please _______?"
Mama says "No, because _____. "
It makes sense, but you're still salty.

So later on, you go to Dad. "Daddy, can I please ______?"
Daddy says:
















"What did Mama say?"






Am I right?



If Daddy didn't say that, he was doin' it wrong.
Even if he is the last say, the person with the last say has to let everybody have their say first.
With great power comes great responsibility.

Chuuch, Preach, Tabernacle.

 

[GoPro]

I like assertive men, so doesn't really apply to me. I'm just saying that it depends on people's personalities and some women prefer to be the leaders and some men like to step back and let the woman lead.

And don't be surprised when 10 years down the line that man hits you with the ultimate F bomb: "I'm a faq. Deuces". A man constantly deferring to a woman is not normal

 

[Crakface]

A man that isnt territorial over his woman is a faq.

 

[innocentdevil]

Submission doesn't mean being a drone to me it means being the comforter and the man being the rock...I'm the follower with some input, but he is the leader...He is the protector and I am the nurturer...Yes I was raised in a two parent home, and my parents are still married....Being submissive in the relationship doesn't mean you lose your power ladies...don't let the word submission be a dirty word lol

 

[mcdivit85]

I find it funny how the feminists and cupcakes start showing whenever the "woman submitting to her man" subject comes up. Then the deflections start with "well, he has to be worthy of submission though."

Yes, Padawan, a man must be about his business and worthy of being followed. But do we really need to point that obvious assertion out? That's like the subject of shooting a gun coming up and someone saying "well, we need to make sure the gun takes bullets." What's understood doesn't need to be said....sit down, put your hand on your chin and think about that for a second.

I always laugh a bit when I read women objecting to being submissive to their man based on his "ego" .As if their decision to not want to be led by an obviously qualified dude, even if they know that is beneficial to them and the relationship, is anything but their own ego not wanting to comply for the sake of being independent. Yea, well there's plenty of projects, single parent homes and ABC specials filled with those kind of "independent" women.

What I find hilarious is that these women are usually criticizing women that ACTUALLY HAVE A MAN AND ARE IN A FUNCTIONAL, LONG LASTING RELATIONSHIP. While they're sitting on match.com hoping some dude will respond to their message after reading "I'm a strong and independent woman" on her profile. Or their in a mother-child relationship SMH'ing at the fact that their life resembles the screenplay of "Baby Boy."

Peace

 

[marcuz]

Submission doesn't mean being a drone to me it means being the comforter and the man being the rock...I'm the follower with some input, but he is the leader...He is the protector and I am the nurturer...Yes I was raised in a two parent home, and my parents are still married....Being submissive in the relationship doesn't mean you lose your power ladies...don't let the word submission be a dirty word lol

there's a lot of power in submission IF you know how to play it right

 

[Anothergirl]

there's a lot of power in submission IF you know how to play it right

ding ding ding. we have a winner.

 

[mcdivit85]

I really wish people would post their success stories on how their way worked. I'm just saying.

She's happily married. Wouldn't that count as her success story and that it worked for her?

Peace