Candace Cameron Bure Defends Her "Submissive Role" With Husband: "I Want Him to Lead"

[Malik]

You talkin bout extremes, not wanting a man to be the head of household cause a woman wants control? Cmon breh.

Take your issue up with God Men are supposed to lead. And from my own personal relationships, I'd say women like being led. The only girl I remember being hard to deal with came from a single parent home

 

[No_bammer_weed]

well even the article itself uses a different definition of the word submission. I'm sure there's a few different interpretations of what it is. There's also @dax interpretation which sounds more like some kinky shyt.

Thats why this convo lacks any kind of coherency or logic. The word "submissive" is being completely redefined here. Like you said, the woman in the article called herself "submissive", but described a relationship of give and take, where she admittedly has significant input on the way the household is run, as well as "big decisions". She's confused. Submission is analogous to obedience: think owner:::pet or parent::::child.

Thats why @tru_m.a.c is asking an insightful question that people are having a difficult time answering, when he asks about examples of "submission" from their women in their own relationships. It just seems like people are running with this unclear idea that the man is the "authority" of the house, without that being tangibly expressed in any real way.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

No I don't because it's not my home. However, idgaf when I get married I have a voice in the marriage too. And please believe, it will be heard.

you might as well not get married...you have -0-chance of leading a successful one....

 

[Mr. Somebody]

But that's why I keep asking for examples….

Because people are always going to try and redefine words to make themselves feel better. But all you have to do is ask, "hey so how are you submissive? Give me an example." And that wordsmith BS goes away with the quickness.

Hence why I'm over here laughing at all these articles and @Mr. Somebody because all he keeps doing is wordsmithing. Not once has be brought up something like:
- decision about a house
- decision about the wedding
- decision about schooling for the kids

You know something tangible. Its all "fluff fluff fluff fluff."

Someone brought up women not picking arguments with their husbands. And I'm just like THAT'S NOT SUBMISSION.

Honestly, i think you're just pretending to not know what im talking about. Again i dont use submit but what it means is that the man and woman give their power to one another, to obey one another, so they get along better. My wife may not want to cook dinner 6 days a week, but she submits to me and does it. Other women may not want to make love to their husbands every day, but many do because it keeps things going. Selfelessness often involves doing things you dont want to do(within reason) knowing that in the grand scheme its whats best for the relationship.

A man calling himself a mac that is led by his woman. Doesnt make alot of sense, friend.

 

[BlackBieber]

I think being submissive means knowing the final say lies with the male. I also think a good man isn't going to come to conclusion without input from his wife.

why should the final say lie with anyone by default? why should a man's opinion be put on a pedestal? are they mentally superior? u would go thru with whatever decision your man makes? even if it's an important one and you don't agree?

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

I really wish people would post their success stories on how their way worked. I'm just saying.

because they dont have any....

all these women that have a problem with men leading...please list examples of women leading successful relationships...

show me a woman that has to always have her voice heard and i'll show you a woman that has probably never been in a healthy longterm relationship

 

[BlackBieber]

Submissive: pretend the husband knows more than the wife regardless if it is true or not. I will never understand why men continue to use that word. It is so divisive and will never lead to a constructive conversation. Honestly, I think the concept is silly. How can we assume that a man is automatically strong in some areas and a woman is automatically weak in those area. It's a fantasy.

word. i lost a bit of respect for some coli ladies in this thread

 

[Mr. Somebody]

*simple dissection friends*


which you do as well



which you do as well



a lot of issues like what??? I'm still asking you to give me specific examples.



and this is literally all it boils down to. which would make your wife obedient not submissive. its your way or the highway because you have veto power. you have the authority.



But you guys are missing the opposing views argument. Girls are COMING INTO RELATIONSHIPS expecting the guy to lead. Expecting the guy to always be right. And pretty much laying on their back and expecting to be "guided." Which makes no sense when you acknowledge that they are grown ass adults too. In no other form of life do you expect or allow someone else to control your life path. What you're saying sounds right to you, because you and your wife have already worked out the dynamic of your relationship. But what about a new couple starting from scratch. Or a bunch of 21 year olds.




So, question, are you and your wife going to teach your daughter these things, or will her husband?

I dont have a daughter but if i did, there is only so much i can teach my daughter before she is in the world on her own at which point she will still have a lot to learn. I can only take her so far in knowledge before she has to find a new mentor. I just give her the best foundation possible. Some women are daddies girls and their parents dictate advice to them regarding every detail of their life.

What you find in reality as you get older is a concept called privacy at which point your children take on new mentors to confide in for knowledge. Their parents are used for other types of information realizing that not having privacy can lead to alot of judgement from their parents.

I want my unborn daughter to have a man that can lead her because if he cant run his house, create an angelic environment for my daughter/grandkids and protect my daughter, he could be a liability.

 

[Milk N Cookies]

because they dont have any....

all these women that have a problem with men leading...please list examples of women leading successful relationships...

show me a woman that has to always have her voice heard and i'll show you a woman that has probably never been in a healthy longterm relationship

Michelle Obama

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

Michelle Obama

you have absolutely no idea what that relationship is like behind doors....

nice try tho

edit: and really? youre gonna list the most powerful man in the world as your example of a 'woman' leading a relationship?

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Because its cheaper to keep her.
If anything should change its the terrible divorce settlements

Basically.

If the nature of divorce settlements in this country start changing, that divorce rate will increase and that marriage rate will plummet even more. Dudes will be like what? You complaining? Aight out you go bytch!

 

[Malik]

Thats why this convo lacks any kind of coherency or logic. The word "submissive" is being completely redefined here. Like you said, the woman in the article called herself "submissive", but described a relationship of give and take, where she admittedly has significant input on the way the household is run, as well as "big decisions". She's confused. Submission is analogous to obedience: think owner:::pet or parent::::child.

Thats why @tru_m.a.c is asking an insightful question that so far people cant answer, when he asks about examples of "submission" from their women in their own relationships. It just seems like people are running with this unclear idea that the man is the "authority" of the house, without that being tangibly expressed in any real way.

It means exactly what it means. Stop p*ssy footing around it. It means that the man is the head of the household. And if your husband puts his foot down on a matter, you should respect it as his wife. Because you married this man, you should have enough respect for him to let him take on this role when need be. A good husband will not be a dictator. A good husband will not bully you. A good husband will always take his wife's feelings into consideration. A good husband will not be yelling out commands every day. For some reason, this is what women think when they hear "submissive".


Say a man and his family live in one city. The man gets a job offer in another state. The man earns $80K in the old city. This new job will pay him $130K. The wife doesn't want to go, doesn't want to leave her home, doesn't want to uproot the kids from school. The man consults with her then says we're moving Is that him being an evil dictator or is that a husband doing what he thinks is beneficial for his family in the long run?

 

[dax]

word. i lost a bit of respect for some coli ladies in this thread

so many people do not understand what submissive means.

 

[Just like bruddas]

nikkas are just talking out their ass...


good day folks

 

[Killer Instinct]

Strictly out of curiosity, I'd be interested in seeing how many people who equate "submissive" as a negative were raised in single parent households, and how many individuals who believe more so in traditional gender roles were brought up with both parental figures. Upbringing can certainly warp perspective, and that's to be expected.

I personally postulate to the male guiding and leading the household, but people have to figure out what works for them and find like minded individuals.