Can William clay ford kick the bucket already official Detroit Lions 2013-14 season thread

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Suh is the highest paid PLAYER in the first 4 years of a career. A hall of fame DT is not worth as much as a highly productive qb. The best DT in the league is averaging 11 mil a yr on his deal. Suh hired Jay Z to get a raise and cripple someone's cap. Hope not ours

What that got to do with u saying stafford contract is reasonable for his production.
 

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Suh should get a long term deal and be paid no more than 12-13 million a year....

Delmas must go unless he is cut and resigned.

If Sammy Watkins is there you take him (He won't be there)

Lions had the best draft in the NFL last year and Slay looked good once we went to man coverage.

Once Suh is resigned you take your cap room and pay for a corner OR a receiver and draft the other.
Suh Calvin and stafford will be making 40-45 mill. No team can function like that with 3 players taking up a third of the cap.

Slay looked good once they went to man. :comeon:The lions was a predominantly man coverage team from the rip. Slay couldn't stay on the field. I'm more hopeful that Chris greenwood can build on his play at the end of last year.
 

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What that got to do with u saying stafford contract is reasonable for his production.


As bad a Staffords contract is, it is reasonable considering he was drafted under the old system. The bad part is that it is like 80% guaranteed.
 

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Suh Calvin and stafford will be making 40-45 mill. No team can function like that with 3 players taking up a third of the cap.

Slay looked good once they went to man. :comeon:The lions was a predominantly man coverage team from the rip. Slay couldn't stay on the field. I'm more hopeful that Chris greenwood can build on his play at the end of last year.

It could work if they previous drafts were better. The fact is we are dealing with what we were dealt from being a shytty team for so long.

Seattle, SanFran and any other team with low priced players only have a 2-3 year window.
 

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That's true. I thought that if Suh signed a new contract that his money could be stretched out and that would allow them to keep a few guys that otherwise would have to be cut. In all seriousness I don't really expect the Lions to form anything like the Seahawks defense if 3 guys (Suh, Matthew and CJ) are making half the salary cap but that's another problem all togther.

I guess Delmas is good as gone then.:manny:
Chit is gonna hit the fan one day with that cap. They need to get rid of suh.
 

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It could work if they previous drafts were better. The fact is we are dealing with what we were dealt from being a shytty team for so long.

Seattle, SanFran and any other team with low priced players only have a 2-3 year window.

Yeah and when it's time for those players to get paid they will be gettin it from somewhere else lil the lions. Of course it could work if they drafted better:pachaha: I been sayin that for a year.
As bad a Staffords contract is, it is reasonable considering he was drafted under the old system. The bad part is that it is like 80% guaranteed.
Bruh there is nothin reasonable about stafford contract. At this current point in staffords career he is one of the worst starting qbs in the nfl. Dead last in the league the 2nd half of last year. :scusthov:
5 years and one Scott Mitchell like season.
 

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Suh Calvin and stafford will be making 40-45 mill. No team can function like that with 3 players taking up a third of the cap.

Slay looked good once they went to man. :comeon:The lions was a predominantly man coverage team from the rip. Slay couldn't stay on the field. I'm more hopeful that Chris greenwood can build on his play at the end of last year.

Slay was a rook though, so those mistakes are going to happen. He atleast plays his man tight (pause) not like Houston or Mathis with that 5 yard cushion and letting their man catch everything, I bet Slay had the least amount of completed passes on him per game than any other CB. Once he develops he should beast. Your first point is dead on though and one of the reasons I doubt we can build a dominant defense unless Mayhew becomes some sort of drafting wizard overnight.
 

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What that got to do with u saying stafford contract is reasonable for his production.

Everything. When you look at QB contracts around the NFL Stafford makes what he should given his age and ability. He makes less than Cutler and Romo
 

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Seattle is like the opposite of Detroit. This team won't win anything with so much money tied up amongst three players. Suh has to go, he's simply not worth the money. No DT is going to justify the type of money Suh will get paid through his performance on the field alone, it's just not possible.

The biggest problem was paying Stafford like he's a franchise QB. And yet the team has to get a WR in the first round because he can't do shyt without another expensive weapon.
 

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Seattle is like the opposite of Detroit. This team won't win anything with so much money tied up amongst three players. Suh has to go, he's simply not worth the money. No DT is going to justify the type of money Suh will get paid through his performance on the field alone, it's just not possible.

The biggest problem was paying Stafford like he's a franchise QB. And yet the team has to get a WR in the first round because he can't do shyt without another expensive weapon.

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Seattle is like the opposite of Detroit. This team won't win anything with so much money tied up amongst three players. Suh has to go, he's simply not worth the money. No DT is going to justify the type of money Suh will get paid through his performance on the field alone, it's just not possible.

The biggest problem was paying Stafford like he's a franchise QB. And yet the team has to get a WR in the first round because he can't do shyt without another expensive weapon.

I had to comment twice. Until this gets addressed, unless we have another fluke like Mike Utley season, this is our main problem and people rationalize it by saying "He's the best we've ever had" So we went from Ramen Noodles to Kraft Mac and Cheese? Who gives a shyt but we paying this mufukka like he's a top chef from Italy with the spaghetti dishes. That's our problem and he's probably eating all of the above, fukk that fatfaced fukk.
 

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Everything. When you look at QB contracts around the NFL Stafford makes what he should given his age and ability. He makes less than Cutler and Romo
Do cutler and romo have records of 1-25 against winning teams

What ability has stafford shown that warrants him being paid 130 million over the first 7 years of his career.
 
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I had to comment twice. Until this gets addressed, unless we have another fluke like Mike Utley season, this is our main problem and people rationalize it by saying "He's the best we've ever had" So we went from Ramen Noodles to Kraft Mac and Cheese? Who gives a shyt but we paying this mufukka like he's a top chef from Italy with the spaghetti dishes. That's our problem and he's probably eating all of the above, fukk that fatfaced fukk.
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Do cutler and romo have records of 1-25 against winning teams

What ability has stafford shown that warrants him being paid 130 million over the first 7 years of his career.
I actually went to ESPN and Yahoo Sports to double check that and it fukking true!:dead: How the hell Matt only has 1 win against a .500 plus team? Like that shyt doesn't even seem possible considering his stats and how long he's been the starter. Forreal though, 1?:dahell: Is their anything other franchise qb sitting on 1 win versus winning teams?
 

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Do cutler and romo have records of 1-25 against winning teams

What ability has stafford shown that warrants him being paid 130 million over the first 7 years of his career.

That's two different questions. The first contract was the rookie deal as the #1 pick in the draft. That was what we would have to pay. The contract Stafford got as #1 pick goes to anyone we took at the pick. In which case you gotta compare Stafford with Mark Sanchez, Aaron Curry, Jason Smith and Josh Freeman. We aren't privy to the 2009 trade scenarios.

The second question has to do with Staffords 3 year 57 mil extension. Compare Staffords last 48 games and age 25 to Romo's at age 33 and Cutler at age 30. Matt Stafford is on par with both and makes less, while being much younger. Stafford is the Lions all time leading passer already, Minnesota would die to have a QB with Staffords "problems"
 
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