Can we stop pretending Kamala is a power player now?

[Wargames]

Looking back at it, seems the voters should get more blame. So many complain about women not having a fair chance, and yet female voters go with the old white guy over any woman in a political race. Seems all the talk is for nothing.

The White Daddy narrative is strong with just about every group but Black Men. Which makes sense because we spend most our lives dealing with those fukkers in adversarial or competitive situations. Also we share enough cultural understanding to peep each other’s bullshyt quicker.

The same energy that got Trump in was the same energy that got Biden in and had people being fanatics for Bernie

 

[Red Shield]

And y'all talking like you would have preferred that.....

can't speak for the other two..

but how the hell did you get that from my post

 

[88m3]

Kamala was at the Pride Parade

 

[Hood Critic]

Kamala was at the Pride Parade

Key Dem demographic, so no surprise there.

 

[Losttribe]

If you thought or still think there was no difference between what Biden and Trump would do in office you're a fukking clown.

What were you doing to fight for a good candidate? Who were you promoting on here or elsewhere? Were you telling Black voters in South Carolina to make a better choice?

I was promoting in my own area...
MANY people pushed candidates but the establishment Dems did what they do.

Spoiler

I could never imagine that black Carolina people would select Biden considering the fact that Biden is a white supremacist and has written the most damaging things for our community in his career.... he's been worse than any other single politician in the last few decades.
Most people who know anything knew that long before Trump did his lil 4 yrs as a politician. Trump getting elected allowed his to ignore recent history and our own common sense.

Your Entire political motivation cant be being an anti trump because trump didnt cause ANY issue plaguing black America and our social economic conditions or our suffering with mass incarceration, housing, land ownership, police violence or anything else.... those issues predate him and didnt get worse under him and
Actually some steps were made while he was in office with incarceration and land ownership. Not saying he's responsible.
Now we have Biden who is fundamentally the devil, except the majority of us think just because he's not Trump we have a win. We won nothing in this past election. I dont (and you dont have to agree) feel that stop asian hate, legislation for Trannies, immigration, a bunch of liberal BS causes, fake white guilt blm, and starting a trade war, without addressing Specifically black issues is a win.
I dont think Biden not signing ex orders and pushing Congress to reverse His Own Crime Bills is a win....he should have spent his first 100 days focused on that.
I dont think Kamala is a symbolic victory, and now most black people have woke up to the fact that she Isn't. She's an asian prosecutor who's married to a Zionist. How can that represent us, even symbolically? Now she's is fumbling all over the place like an idiot..... but we are (collectively) the idiots because she's been a goofy side chick hoe who avoided real issues her entire career.... and of course we forgot that too, as if we dont remember this goofy hoe from the 2000s.
As if we could actually read The New JIm Crow and select literally two people who embody that book the most.
And this is just my view, on a surface level.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Your Entire political motivation cant be being an anti trump because trump didnt cause ANY issue plaguing black America and our social economic conditions or our suffering with mass incarceration, housing, land ownership, police violence or anything else.... those issues predate him and didnt get worse under him and
Actually some steps were made while he was in office with incarceration and land ownership. Not saying he's responsible.
Now we have Biden who is fundamentally the devil, except the majority of us think just because he's not Trump we have a win.

Let's turn to actual reality. Here is a tiny slice of shyt that happened during the Trump presidency:

Jan 31: The FCC announces that it will no longer defend caps on phone rates charged to prisoners.

Feb 21: Attorney General Jeff Sessions releases a memo reversing the order reducing the use of private prisons that had been announced by the Obama Administration.

Mar 31: AG Sessions lifts all federal consent degrees used to monitor police departments that had been guilty of violations of civil rights

May 10: Sessions releases a memo instructing federal prosecutors to pursue the charges that carry the longest possible sentence in drug cases and refers to the War on Drugs as a "rousing success"

Jun 12: Sessions urges states to go after marijuana users and even scrap protections for medical marijuana.

Jul 17: Sessions promises to increase asset forfeiture, a practice that even conservative senators and justices have warned may be unconstitutional.

Jul 28: In a speech to law enforcement officers, Trump encourages the roughing up of suspects who are already in custody.

Aug 1: An internal DOJ memo announces that resources in the DOJ's civil rights division were being redirected to fight against Affirmative Action policies in college

Aug 28: Trump rescinds an Obama-era order that had blocked the transfer of military equipment to local police

Sep 15: AG Sessions pulls out of a federal effort to reform police departments after officer-involved shootings

Dec 21: Jeff Sessions rescinds a Obama letter to courts that advised them to be careful in imposing overly stiff fees and penalties on poor defendants.

2018

Jan 4: AG Sessions rescinds the Obama-era memo ordering non-interference with marijuana crimes in pot-legal states

Mar 12: AG Jeff Sessions announces that the DOJ will prioritize funding for more police officers on campus. Black students are far more likely to be arrested by such officers than White students

Mar 12: The Department of Education proposes repealing an Obama-era guidance promoting racial equity in school discipline

Jun 8: Acting Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights Candace Jackson instructs her staff not to investigate systemic racism unless it is specifically raised by the complainant

Jun 21: Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is found to have dropped 1,200+ civil rights investigations initiated under President Obama

Jul 2: SecEd DeVos and AG Sessions rescind 7 Obama-era guidelines on affirmative action and issue a statement calling on colleges to end the practice

Aug 22: Trump directs SecState Pompeo "to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers", specifically White farmers.

2019

Jan 4: The WP reported that Trump is rolling back disparate impact regulations, meaning that lenders, insurers, and local governments could now pass regulations that have negative impacts on minorities just so long as there's no proof they did it for openly racist reasons.

Jan 15: In Stokeling v United States, the two Trump-appointed justices joined a 5-4 majority allowing the Trump administration to expand the offenses that count as "violent felonies" under three-strikes laws.

Yes, criminal justice issues predate Trump. So that means that Trump gets a pass? Notice that Trump reversed numerous steps that had been made by the Obama/Biden administration....but your entire argument is that we should ignore anything positive Biden did after 2008 and ignore everything negative Trump did during that same time period, but only talk about the 1980s and 1990s when 80% of politicians from both parties (including some Black politicians) were pushing tough-on-crime shyt?

 

[EndDomination]

Kamala's problem on a national level has always been she doesn't have a base of supporters to defend her. Progressives don't fukk with her and think she's not progressive enough, moderates don't really care about her, the right obviously hates her, and black people don't trust her and think she panders to black people to get ahead.

The rabid "KHive" people are pretty good defenders of her, but they only exist online and in beauty shops because none of their defenses of her make any sense.

She doesn't have a real base outside of people who are generally Democrats - and some of the older AKAs.

 

[Losttribe]

Let's turn to actual reality. Here is a tiny slice of shyt that happened during the Trump presidency:



Yes, criminal justice issues predate Trump. So that means that Trump gets a pass? Notice that Trump reversed numerous steps that had been made by the Obama/Biden administration....but your entire argument is that we should ignore anything positive Biden did after 2008 and ignore everything negative Trump did during that same time period, but only talk about the 1980s and 1990s when 80% of politicians from both parties (including some Black politicians) were pushing tough-on-crime shyt?

My argument isn't that at all.

Spoiler

I dont think the obama biden record is so great, and I'm not alone in that idea, as more than half the nation agrees.... including millions of life long Democrats
I dont think black 80s preachers and politicians who were paid off excuses Devils like Biden and pressured during the crack era are an excuse..., especially when Biden repeatedly Authored Bills that helped destroy black lives and communities. And when he personally lobbied those individuals. They dont represent black Americans and even today the CBC doesn't rep us.
I dont think people like you should defend Biden, as he is indefensible.
I dont think Trump was a great president.. but to pretend that the issues that affect my community are as Surface level as you imply above (by you posting long list of orders) just shows what I always say on this site... you and Yall are politically immature and basic minded.
I don't think we should ignore anything negative Trump did... but it hasn't been ignored, it's been hyped x10000 through the news and online, it's been weaponize and used as a guitar trips Towards MY people, it's been used by people who don't care about my people and we are Now pretending that Any democratic policy has lighted the social economic situation and stigma we suffer.
Naw, we , as usual, are been made to think we Somehow won something by selecting someone like Biden... or nominating someone like Hilary, or having Obama as the first non AA black president who has been maddddd tone deaf on our issues. We ignore the fact that we have been in this sad loop for literally 5 Decades. Symbolic victories and acceptance of BS to the point that blind pawns like you are defending a perverted white supremacist who'd say You ain't black and who has a history of racism and defending racist. We dont have to Diss Trump or speak on him because that work has already been done..... furthermore, you dont have to diss Trump to people like me because I already know hes a pale Devil, my point is that the opposite is also true.

With people like you we never have and NEVER will get to the point of specific lobbying and specific legislation. We will instead get a bunch of Kamalas... then get other "minority" groups taking advantage of the work BLACK people continously put in.

And fyi ... during obama and after Obama nothing changed with mass incarceration- and even if there was a 3rd obama/ biden term it wouldnt change , police violence, etc..poverty, housing , etc.... and what you dont get is... even though Trump wasn't making steps (except for incarceration) AT LEAST with trump we werent rocked to a symbolic dream, as we are now.

It's so sad because even if Biden and that asian lady who married a pale zionist got 5 terms in a row and did 20 years in POTUS office.... yall would STILL be talking about trump's 4 yrs as a politician 20 yrs later, compared to Decades of fukkery. Because it's simply a weaponized excuse and a way to get those in marginalized groups ignored by the liberal fakkit party- to not ask for Tangibles.

In my humble opinion.
Peace.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

My argument isn't that at all.

Spoiler

I dont think the obama biden record is so great, and I'm not alone in that idea, as more than half the nation agrees.... including millions of life long Democrats
I dont think black 80s preachers and politicians who were paid off excuses Devils like Biden and pressured during the crack era are an excuse..., especially when Biden repeatedly Authored Bills that helped destroy black lives and communities. And when he personally lobbied those individuals. They dont represent black Americans and even today the CBC doesn't rep us.
I dont think people like you should defend Biden, as he is indefensible.
I dont think Trump was a great president.. but to pretend that the issues that affect my community are as Surface level as you imply above (by you posting long list of orders) just shows what I always say on this site... you and Yall are politically immature and basic minded.
I don't think we should ignore anything negative Trump did... but it hasn't been ignored, it's been hyped x10000 through the news and online, it's been weaponize and used as a guitar trips Towards MY people, it's been used by people who don't care about my people and we are Now pretending that Any democratic policy has lighted the social economic situation and stigma we suffer.
Naw, we , as usual, are been made to think we Somehow won something by selecting someone like Biden... or nominating someone like Hilary, or having Obama as the first non AA black president who has been maddddd tone deaf on our issues. We ignore the fact that we have been in this sad loop for literally 5 Decades. Symbolic victories and acceptance of BS to the point that blind pawns like you are defending a perverted white supremacist who'd say You ain't black and who has a history of racism and defending racist. We dont have to Diss Trump or speak on him because that work has already been done..... furthermore, you dont have to diss Trump to people like me because I already know hes a pale Devil, my point is that the opposite is also true.

With people like you we never have and NEVER will get to the point of specific lobbying and specific legislation. We will instead get a bunch of Kamalas... then get other "minority" groups taking advantage of the work BLACK people continously put in.

And fyi ... during obama and after Obama nothing changed with mass incarceration- and even if there was a 3rd obama/ biden term it wouldnt change , police violence, etc..poverty, housing , etc.... and what you dont get is... even though Trump wasn't making steps (except for incarceration) AT LEAST with trump we werent rocked to a symbolic dream, as we are now.

It's so sad because even if Biden and that asian lady who married a pale zionist got 5 terms in a row and did 20 years in POTUS office.... yall would STILL be talking about trump's 4 yrs as a politician 20 yrs later, compared to Decades of fukkery. Because it's simply a weaponized excuse and a way to get those in marginalized groups ignored by the liberal fakkit party- to not ask for Tangibles.

In my humble opinion.
Peace.

To think like that, you would have had to completely ignore 90% of what I've said about Biden over the last 3 years. Which suggests that discussion is useless. You can't just make claims about me or "people like me" when you clearly don't even know what I believe, promote, or what I say on this board.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Very impressed with her. People dismissing international diplomatic relationship building for these preposterous reasons is just laughable.

She’s good IN THE SENATE. She’s out of her depth right now b

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

None of this will be remembered a year from now.




This is her biggest weakness.

As things are currently constructed she’s on a Dan Quayle trajectory.

She’s a woman. Her political ceiling is lower.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This right here.

She was the right choice for VP. She drove the vote, and has an incredible track record over the past decade or so. People want her to be someone she's never been. Her success has come from playing things straight and sticking to a certain core of beliefs that have been rooted in the rule of law and policy. That's exactly what any solid VP should possess, and she has displayed that countlessly, now and prior to even being on the ticket. She's doing the job the way it should be done. It's not about politicians being rockstars. They should be playing the game via policy. Currently, no one does that better than her.

This isn’t true. Kamala didn’t change Joe’s favorabilities before or after being announced as VP.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Again, There was other black candidates. The community needs to own this one. She'll get washed by Whitmer or even Cuomo in a primary.

VAL DEMMINGS

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Really? If you get off the Internet, Black folks weren't really sweating her mixed ancestry much more than Barack's. The problem is unlike Barack she has tried to portray herself as something else than a Black woman. This gains you little outside the Black community (they still see you as Black mostly) but weakens you in the Black community (which feels some slight). I am fine with her talking about her mom and her immigrant ancestry but politically, acting like you can play some "New Black" on the national stage of half-MAGA America is at best shortsighted and at worst solipsistic.



Personal accomplishments, yes. Signature legislation and initiatives, grassroots support, no. It's easy to be impassioned and outspoken from the opposition which the Senate has been since 2012. The clownish stonewalling of the GOP hands out a lot of halos that may not have been as easy in normal times.

Also stop acting like her AG record in Cali does not exist. I have never seen a non-GOP Black politician so many Black people in her own state don't fukk with her.

Ironically as AG she was the most progressive one in the country. But this was before the recent criminal justice wave so no one was bound to look great after all that.

thing is…she’s a robot. I knew her press Secretary before he passed away. She’s a cool person behind the scenes but she’s just lacking in on camera charisma and the press always catches her slipping. It’s annoying.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Probably still would given that Hillary was torn apart here.

Nope. Hillary had a 30 year right wing campaign lobbed against her. The fact she almost won twice is a miracle.