Can Islam Solve All of Africas Issues?

[tstone]

It doesn't matter how long it's been in Africa, if it came from somewhere else and didn't originate on the continent it is still foreign.

Sorry but you are completely incorrect on the concept of foreign. Look at what the basic definition of foreign is

Foreign: strange and unfamiliar.

Foreign does not have anything to do with originality. Something cannot be foreign to a society, once it's been established there for a significant period of time. So using your logic, English is a foreign language to England, since the Germanic invaders introduced English to England and replaced the previous original Celtic language during the 9th century, 200 years after Islam was introduced to Africa. So Islam was established in Africa, before England was speaking English. When a foreign disease is introduced into a new society the people get sick until they build immunity to it. Then guess what its no longer foreign.

 

[emoney]

Sorry but you are completely incorrect on the concept of foreign. Look at what the basic definition of foreign is

Foreign: strange and unfamiliar.

Foreign does not have anything to do with originality. Something cannot be foreign to a society, once it's been established there for a significant period of time. So using your logic, English is a foreign language to England, since the Germanic invaders introduced English to England and replaced the previous original Celtic language during the 9th century, 200 years after Islam was introduced to Africa. So Islam was established in Africa, before England was speaking English. When a foreign disease is introduced into a new society the people get sick until they build immunity to it. Then guess what its no longer foreign.

Where did you get that definition from?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Foreign?s=t

for·eign
[fawr-in, for-] Show IPA
adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or derived from another country or nation; notnative: foreign cars.
2.
of or pertaining to contact or dealings with other countries;connected with foreign affairs.
3.
external to one's own country or nation: a foreign country.
4.
carried on abroad, or with other countries: foreign trade.
5.
belonging to or coming from another district, province, etc.


Synonyms
1, 3. alien. 4. international. 11. extraneous, outside.

 

[emoney]

based on the definition...Islam is foreign to Africa.

It's not indigenous to the continent.

 

[tstone]

Where did you get that definition from?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Foreign?s=t

for·eign
[fawr-in, for-] Show IPA
adjective
1.
of, pertaining to, or derived from another country or nation; notnative: foreign cars.
2.
of or pertaining to contact or dealings with other countries;connected with foreign affairs.
3.
external to one's own country or nation: a foreign country.
4.
carried on abroad, or with other countries: foreign trade.
5.
belonging to or coming from another district, province, etc.


Synonyms
1, 3. alien. 4. international. 11. extraneous, outside.

The above definition is talking about the present. Base on the definition, when Islam first came to Africa in the 7th century it was foreign, not after 1400 years of being practice by the people. You know how many people came an went during that time, how many ideas, languages, traditions and system of government came into existence during that time period. I think you are mixing up foreign and origin. Islam my have had it's origin in Arabia, but to call it foreign to a African Muslim in the year 2014 is idiotic. Like my English and England example in the previous post, more than 99% of who we are is foreign than.

 

[emoney]

The above definition is talking about the present. Base on the definition, when Islam first came to Africa in the 7th century it was foreign, not after 1400 years of being practice by the people. You know how many people came an went during that time, how many ideas, languages, traditions and system of government came into existence during that time period. I think you are mixing up foreign and origin. Islam my have had it's origin in Arabia, but to call it foreign to a African Muslim in the year 2014 is idiotic. Like my English and England example in the previous post, more than 99% of who we are is foreign than.

Islam did not have a presence across the whole continent and never will. So to many Africans it's still foreign.

 

[tstone]

You did not mention anything about Africans that never experience Islam before, you said that Africans that practice islam since the 7th century are practising a foreign religion.

 

[tstone]

Islam did not have a presence across the whole continent and never will. So to many Africans it's still foreign.

You did not mention anything about Africans that never experience Islam before, you said that Africans that practice islam since the 7th century are practising a foreign religion.

 

[emoney]

You did not mention anything about Africans that never experience Islam before, you said that Africans that practice islam since the 7th century are practising a foreign religion.

I simply said Islam was foreign to Africa and Africans.

I didn't specify a time period or specify which African people I was talking about.

Islam was foreign then and is foreign now to Africans.

 

[tstone]

I simply said Islam was foreign to Africa and Africans.

I didn't specify a time period or specify which African people I was talking about.

Islam was foreign then and is foreign now to Africans.

OK, to let me know if you are serious or just an islamophobe. Let me ask you two questions. Do you think that Buddhism is foreign religion to Japan, even though it did not originate there, but it's there main national religion and they were practising it since the 5th century? Do you think that English is foreign language to England, even though they did not originate it, but outsource it to the rest of the world?

 

[BlackMajik]

Islam is the cause of a LARGE MAJORITY of africa's problems.

Cosign

 

[88m3]

Source material on what? You question the fact that many Africans did willingly accept Islam?

Seems like a shaky argument, I just wondered if you had some hard numbers?

it was a question, i think.... maybe you have an opinion on it because I'm curious as well.

It was a statement, the way I read it. Islam was spread with a sword. I won't say Africans or anyone for that matter didn't "willingly" convert, I just think its a flimsy argument.

 

[emoney]

OK, to let me know if you are serious or just an islamophobe. Let me ask you two questions. Do you think that Buddhism is foreign religion to Japan, even though it did not originate there, but it's there main national religion and they were practising it since the 5th century? Do you think that English is foreign language to England, even though they did not originate it, but outsource it to the rest of the world?

Yes, Buddhism is a foreign religion to Japan. Buddhism originates from India. Shintoism is Japanese people's religion.

Not sure about the English language, I'll do more research and get back to you before giving you an answer.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Seems like a shaky argument, I just wondered if you had some hard numbers?



It was a statement, the way I read it. Islam was spread with a sword. I won't say Africans or anyone for that matter didn't "willingly" convert, I just think its a flimsy argument.

U need to provide source material on Islam being spread by the sword.

 

[Hans Wurst]

africa needs peace, control over its recources, unity, education, infrastructure, and no exploitation through the usa, europe, china or anyone. reperations in form of free education, infrastructure help, paid overseas stipendias to bring the knowledge back.

but we won't let em, neither will the corrupt sociopathic dictators, the arabs or the white minority in south africa

an african union based on humanism, with free choice of religion. utopia?

 

[88m3]

U need to provide source material on Islam being spread by the sword.

You made the original statement, I'm waiting.