Can i get a quick refresher on why TLR is MAGA all of a sudden?

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As a self diagnosed politically independent left leaning centrist, let me attempt to give an unbiased opinion.



I’ve never received the pompous, elitist, dismissive “you’re not even worth my response” mentality more from any group than so called Black progressives. It’s all turn into snark and ad hominem attacks.

As someone who truly wants to hear fierce debate from both sides of issues, I’ve been disappointed by this development.

I remember telling posters like @mastermind years ago that this was not a winning strategy. Now we’re starting to see some of these chickens come home to roost. You just can’t just talk down to men, that want to do the right thing, but might not exactly know how.

But hey what do I know? I’m just a working class, straight Black male, that wants to love and protect his Black wife,raise his children, serve God and community and leave my grand children with more than I had.

Maybe I’m really not as smart as some of y’all

:manny:
 

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Breh white people are disingenuous like that. They say something about our plight that needs to be recognized

Then proceed to dive in crazy racist shyt and make questionable statements.

I don’t like the bytch and we don’t need her stigma.

Trump appoints John Birch Society motherfukkers and hangs with Heritage Foundation quacks, despite pandering to black people every now and then

They are not trust worthy and seek to actually divide for their monetary gain

But I’m with y’all on a good bit of dos stuff. Only immigrants I’m concerned about are about our “fellow POC”

Bruh I don't disagree with anything that you just said, not one word

but like i said in that actual discussion, Ann coulter is making a statement by someone who simply knows their history, it's just a common logic statement.
 

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Link.

My first response in that thread included a peer-reviewed article that debunked one of your arguments, and you never responded to it.
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But people can click that link and decide for themselves...honestly, if you think I was the one getting "stomped", you've probably never won a fight before. :lolbron:

I'll quote myself from the thread...
This link seems like its broken
 

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We need safety nets like any other first World country on earth. Or else You be driving that Mercedes Benz in pothole roads that fukk up your tires, or work in a profitable business that doesnt serve employees decent health insurance.

Small businesses thrive when people have DISPOSABLE income after bills. Which only happens when worker unions are around and regulations on top of the food chain stop from overcharging for basic needs like electricity, cell phones, and so on.

Socialism =/ safety net.

Your putting a socialism title on initiatives.

You’re understanding of how Economies work is kind of scary too. The vast majority of small businesses are b2b not b2c. Plus if the government pays for the great majority of your needs, the majority of that revenue only goes to a very small amount of companies.

In a socialistic society, it’s inefficicent to have more than 1, electric, cell phone, insurance company. You can’t start businesses to compete, bc the main buyer (the government) has no incentive to buy from you.

Socialism increases our dependence on a a few companies and the government, with the possibility we get our human needs met.

And human needs are actually never met due to the humans cycle of desire, we always want more, so no matter what socialism will never meet our needs
 

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As a self diagnosed politically independent left leaning centrist, let me attempt to give an unbiased opinion.



I’ve never received the pompous, elitist, dismissive “you’re not even worth my response” mentality more from any group than so called Black progressives. It’s all turn into snark and ad hominem attacks.

As someone who truly wants to hear fierce debate from both sides of issues, I’ve been disappointed by this development.

I remember telling posters like @mastermind years ago that this was not a winning strategy. Now we’re starting to see some of these chickens come home to roost. You just can’t just talk down to men, that want to do the right thing, but might not exactly know how.

But hey what do I know? I’m just a working class, straight Black male, that wants to love and protect his Black wife,raise his children, serve God and community and leave my grand children with more than I had.

Maybe I’m really not as smart as some of y’all

:manny:
This mentality is prevelant in HL. I deadass go between being called a republican and trump supporter in HL to a dnc shill/liberal sheep in TLR. :heh: both subforums are circlejerks and are hostile to people who go off script

They are indications that the average coli poster only knows this when confronted with difficult arguments
ee2f495d-714a-477b-c161-6dd8494929ea.png

Deflect deflect deflect

Deflect with virtue singaling
Deflect with unsubstantiated accusations
Deflect with whataboutism
Deflect with an empty tariq-style statement of problackness to elicit daps


Still their fukkboy elitism shouldn't be responded with anti intellecutalism, all you do with that is confirm their assesments of you.

Furthermore a lot of "movements" on here are poorly thought out and spurned by negative emotion
 
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Socialism =/ safety net.

Your putting a socialism title on initiatives.

You’re understanding of how Economies work is kind of scary too. The vast majority of small businesses are b2b not b2c. Plus if the government pays for the great majority of your needs, the majority of that revenue only goes to a very small amount of companies.

In a socialistic society, it’s inefficicent to have more than 1, electric, cell phone, insurance company. You can’t start businesses to compete, bc the main buyer (the government) has no incentive to buy from you.

Socialism increases our dependence on a a few companies and the government, with the possibility we get our human needs met.

And human needs are actually never met due to the humans cycle of desire, we always want more, so no matter what socialism will never meet our needs

So you saying dont bother let the government try to serve the public for basic needs like healthcare, housing, education and be held accountable for,it? Not let businesses provide protections for their employees?

So have a Ron Paul mentality and everyone prosper off of Libertarian policies?
 

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This mentality is prevelant in HL. I deadass go between being called a republican and trump supporter in HL to a dnc shill/liberal sheep in TLR. :heh: both subforums are circlejerks and are hostile to people who go off script

They are indications that the average coli poster only knows this when confronted with difficult arguments
ee2f495d-714a-477b-c161-6dd8494929ea.png

Deflect deflect deflect

Deflect with virtual singaling
Deflect with unsubstantiated accusations
Deflect with whataboutism
Deflect with an empty tariq-style statement of problackness to elicit daps


Still their fukkboy elitism shouldn't be responded with anti intellecutalism, all you do with that is confirm their assesments of you.

Furthermore a lot of "movements" on here are poorly thought out and spurned by negative emotion
I want to see more arguments/debate on here.

I just want it to be more about what we have to say and less about who we are perceived to be.

It’s so difficult to discuss anything without ad hominem.

c00n
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fakkit
Feminist
Bed Winch
Ho Tep
Shea Butter
Militant
Problematic
Bed Beck
Homophobe
Bot
Agent
Tariq
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ADOS

etc..etc..etc..

I hate how everything becomes a hashtag or a label. It just makes it easy for you to not have to defend your position and be dismissive. It’s so lazy.

I’m guilty of it myself sometimes.
 

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This isn’t new

The coli hates women

The coli hates black celebrities

The coli hates black politicians


It’s been like this for quite some time. This is not a pro black site. It’s a domicile for anti social keyboard militants that get off by calling black people c00ns and claiming to be introverted

The only black celebrities they like are the ones they think are making white folk feel a way. It’s why they champion Floyd, Lavar and those Tariq types
This.

Also, most of the intelligent members discuss political topics in Higher Learning instead.
 

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So you saying dont bother let the government try to serve the public for basic needs like healthcare, housing, education and be held accountable for,it? Not let businesses provide protections for their employees?

So have a Ron Paul mentality and everyone prosper off of Libertarian policies?

I think we should have housing for the poor but not everyone. Education is offered by our government. If you go to a community college and/or public college in your state, your loans come out well below the average amount of loans grads have. Regardless of family income.

But ppl want the government to pay for private and out of state college and then complain college costs too much. :russ:

The reason we pay for healthcare is because other socialist countries leech off of us. This is well documented, they have “cheap” prices bc they lobby our politicians.

We subsidize the world, once that ends their costs will skyrocket How the United States Subsidizes the World - Big Jolly Times
How The US Subsidizes Cheap Drugs For Europe

Bernie somehow just “forgets” to tell his followers about this when showing them how other systems work.

They don’t work bc they can negotiate cheaper prices :mjlol:

It’s bc they’re leeches off of the us, simple as that:francis:
 
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