Oh Boy is significantly bigger than Ballin by any metric you want to use. It peaked higher on Billboard
It is insane to think otherwise.
How much of the whole byrdgang run was a by product of stacks and max? Jones was a better leader he could’ve had a Dipset run with Byrd gang but like Cam said he wasn’t interested in really putting ppl on, he just wanted them to contribute to his projects. That never made sense either because he was around Diddy, Cam and Dame around that time and he saw how they all ran their music business. They got hot and then they used their musical gravity and popularity to promote their ppls projects.. I think 50 was right. Jones was having a moment and maybe he didn’t think it sustainable if he stopped to promote other ppl.
It's a far bigger song, that's for sureHey Ma is better than Ballin as well.
Lmao mothafukka YES.
Ballin - #5 billboard, #1 rap
Pop champagne - #22 bill board, #3 rap
These are the only songs Jim Jones ever charted ever
Cam:
Horse and carriage #41 billboard, #9 rap
Let me know #99 billboard, #2 rap
What means the world - #83, 34
Oh boy, #4, #1
Hey ma #3, #4
Down and out #94, #20
Many other top 100 HH charted songs too many to list
Are you really trying to say JJ is a bigger artist than Camron when he was rappin....what are we doing here breh
Idk about that
I just checked the numbers, it is, by a LOT. It's even bigger than Oh Boy.
Nah it’s understandable. Ppl undermine a lot of those early hit hop hits from the pre MySpace era. Hip hop was more “seen” and accessible by the time ballin came out so it feels like it was bigger. And. It to mention “ballin” stood out at the time it peaked compared to oh boy because New York didn’t really have any reply like that at that time. it was all the south. 50 and gunit had fallin off. Cam was going through something. Jay was making “concept music”. Beanie was going crazy. Busta dropped a wack project. Juelz didn’t make another album
Ballin went platinum in an era where cats wasn’t selling records in one year. yall forget how big that record was. It was everywhere
There's a lot of songs that I thought were bigger than other songs until I check the numbers. A lot of our perceptions on how big songs are are skewed also by our personal surroundings. Like if songs are played more often in your hood or other social settings you attend (the club, functions, etc...) you'll get the impression a song is bigger than it is in reality.
No body is using the phrase oh boy, balling became part of daily lingo once that song dropped. Literally became part of the culture
That's a good stat for Ballin but every other metric, Hey Ma is significantly bigger. In terms of listens, Billboard charting, Youtube Views, it blows Ballin' out the water.
I think there can be a difference between a song being culturally more significant and it being a bigger record. We Fly High fits that criteria of being more culturally significant than it was "big".
