Cam’ron sounds off on Jim Jones on “It Is What It Is”

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Ngga you do know we can look this stuff up right? :gucci:

Crime pays dropped in 2009. At that time, Jim dropped Prey 4 Reign. It had Pop champagne on it which—-thanks to @Ed MOTHERfukkING G —-we know it CHARTED. Crime pays did 45k first week. P4R sold 42k.

So the point isn’t to nitpick Jim vs cam fame, the point is ….how was it even close. If I fight Floyd and he barely beats me in 12, ngga i won

So when you say ‘act like Jim leveled up on cam’, he did. In no scenario should Jim and cam be equals but it happened and lasted for a minute until IIWII. Which is why even to this day Jim has more IG followers.
nothing you said proves anything I am well aware of all of these statistics, leveling up on cam would mean he surpassed him or sold more records, the argument isnt whether or not cam fell off in popularity the argument is whether or not jim became bigger than him, which he didnt.. not even at the peak of ballin was he selling more than cam

cam put jim and juelz in a position where even tho he was the boss, they stood beside him and looked like equals, which is why juelz sold more than cam by his second album and nobody batted an eye, but with jim yall treat it like it's tony yayo catching up to 50 cent in sales and 50 never seen it coming and became bitter because of it

and there was a period in 08 where jim was the most visible and active member, if u wanna say he became the face by default because of that, sure, even tho ur wrong.. but either way he did a horrible job representing dipset as the face if thats what u wanna call it, hanging out with 50, being blamed by hell rell as the reason dipset broke up, getting aired out by jha jha, and turned into a punchline by max b

we're sitting here comparing nikkas selling 40k first week in 2009... BOTH of them were fukking washed regardless of him squeezing out that one last hit that he stole from ron browz

if cam's lowpoint is jim's peak I think that speaks for itself for how overstated his so-called level up was
 

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What did Jha Jha get locked up for?

She got locked up for identity theft and tax fraud in Miami.

Last time I saw something with her she was looking like a fiend on queenzflip old show.

That's where she kinda blamed Jim for Stack's death cause he was asking for help to move out of Far Rock and no one helped him.
 
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Police said she was moving work in Miami.



That's where she kinda blamed Jim for Stack's death cause he was asking for help to move out of Far Rock and no one helped him.


Jim Jones said he tried to get Stack to move. Stack was riding around in a Porsche in his hood. I have a hard time believing he couldn't move if he wanted to. And as one of the few Bundles stans on sohh, If I judge from his music i wouldn't be surprised if Bundles didn't want to stay there. Seemed like he felt like the king out that way. Some people have a hard time giving that kind of respect up for safety. And in fairness I don't think he was killed by people from his hood irrc. But of course things aren't always as they appear,so maybe he was really too poor to move out the projects. I just kind of doubt it.
 

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Jim Jones said he tried to get Stack to move. Stack was riding around in a Porsche in his hood. I have a hard time believing he couldn't move if he wanted to. And as one of the few Bundles stans on sohh, If I judge from his music i wouldn't be surprised if Bundles didn't want to stay there. Seemed like he felt like the king out that way. Some people have a hard time giving that kind of respect up for safety. And in fairness I don't think he was killed by people from his hood irrc. But of course things aren't always as they appear,so maybe he was really too poor to move out the projects. I just kind of doubt it.

To his credit she said Jim tried to get Stack to share a room/apartment with some other people out in Jersey and he was like "hell no" out of pride but in the end he came back around asking for help after his Porsche got shot up and it fell on deaf ears.
 
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Cam absolutely benefited off him, he used his blood ties to his favor, use to scream all over songs how his family 9trey.

You can tell mase use to son cam back then and did him dirty as hell.

Cam acted scorn for 20 years, all out dissing and then keep dissing for decades til mase came out and literally sonned him on records. And now they best of friends.

He made it seem like mase was so wrong he would never fukk with him after he didn’t go to huddy 6 funeral.


People shyt on Jim for the max shyt. But cam literally sign him and Juelz to the exact same deal.

Cam started beef with 50 when he didn’t need to. While also having a beef with Jay and nas at the same time. Which all stem from cam and to be fair the street aspect of that beef fell on Jim door step and not cam, tru life and Jim was cool before that. outside of him getting punched in the eye.

Max was cam man. Cam never gave him a shot.

Cam robbed them nikkas in France and Juelz paid the price for it.

Cam was probably feeling a way how Jim and Juelz both surpassed him also.

He made Jim pay like 5 million dollars cause he owed his name and rights and had him in a slave deal.

Cam def let Jim get fukked up in Rucker. And the beef was over cam lol

I think they’re all immature, Mase included, but I don’t see how anyone can cape for Cam when he spent YEARS harassing Mase because he missed his friendship just for him to act like none of it was ever that serious as soon as Mase decided he’d be his friend again.

You really can’t take any of them seriously.
 

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fukked up shyt Cam did:

The Chrissy shirts
Copyrighting Byrdgang
Leaving Jim at the Rucker

fukked up shyt Jim did:

Turned on Cam to be used as a pawn by 50 after Cam was on Hot 97 arguing on their behalf against 50
Tried to create a fake beef with Cam
Ran off on Cam when BMF pulled up

Cam shyt is mostly immature shyt outside of the copyright thing that was actually foul as fukk but it happened after Jim suggested the fake beef so maybe he already checked out but it still wasn’t cool.

We really arguing "We Fly High" was a bigger song than "Oh Boy". :dead:

How much of We Fly High was a byproduct of Max? You’re in pure denial if you think the Byrdgang run was all Jim. Stack and Max provided the music and Mel provided the gangbanger co-sign.

Cam on the other hand is a product of his own making. Outside of the normal influences that all artists have, I can’t sit there and say “Oh, had this person not been around Hey Ma isn’t a hit” or “Clearly person X is a big reason why Oh Boy and Dipset Anthem blew up”

They not even comparable as artists imo.
 

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Cam doesn't have a Ballin, hate him or love him that's a generational classic as big as bling bling
I saw somebody tweeted yesterday that oh boy actually peaked higher inthe charts than ballin. Oh boy peaked at number 4 on the hot 100 and we fly high at number 5


Ballin was just more catchy and simplistic.
 
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