Cam’ron sounds off on Jim Jones on “It Is What It Is”

[Yehuda]

01:07:09 "Cool, so Jim is, uh, you know, Jim is a blood at this time", "Jim got all type of beef or whatever" the way he said this is like a father talking about his teenage son when he's wilding.

 

[Goat poster]

This is literally from Confessions of Fire. Cam put this out, I didn't pull this out of thin air. Now Jim and him aren't cool and Cam is saying Jim was a fan.

This is like having a shorty you was with for a minute, and then ya'll break up and she saying that your meat is little.

Yeah

Shyt don't make sense

And I fukks with Cam WAAY more than Jim

Never really liked Jim's tough guy energy
BUT!!!!!!!


Cam trying to change history!!?

From his debut all throughout Dipset JIM WAS THERE

Like he had a whole fukking song on his first album called " My mom, Jimmy, and me"!!!!!

NIKKA!!!!!

Was shouting him out all through the first 2 albums....Shouting out his grandma crib (5H)

NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YALL WAS NEVER COOL AND JIM AINT FROM HARLEM?!?!?!


Cam would tell us his Damn mama ain't from Harlem if he was mad at her


Same way Ma$e wasn't when they was beefing but I guess he is now??

 

[Awesome Wells]

This is literally the same sh*t I said on here a couple weeks ago or whatever.

Jim was the one that Cam was going to in the late 90's and early 00's for help with street sh*t. That was Jim's thing forever. Most of us uptown knew him from just being one of those active dudes who always ran up on people, or handled sh*t for other people when they had problems. That's why Kay Slay (RIP) used to always tell people that Capo was official and not to f*ck with Jim because he was family. He was known for running with a million grimy dudes putting in work.

He was a street dude that they turned into a rapper to get money. A lot of people try to do research on YT, but that ain't a history book. You had to be outside or from uptown. Everybody knew about Jim back then and it wasn't for no music.

 

[Cladyclad]

I saw somebody tweeted yesterday that oh boy actually peaked higher inthe charts than ballin. Oh boy peaked at number 4 on the hot 100 and we fly high at number 5


Ballin was just more catchy and simplistic.

Chart position dont mean anything

 

[EastsideRio]

I think Stack wrote Ballin rather than Max. And nikkas outside of NY didn't care about no damn Max B if that's what you mean.

You definitely smoking dust.

Most of Max’s fanbase after his incarceration is outside of NYC

 

[EastsideRio]

This is literally the same sh*t I said on here a couple weeks ago or whatever.

Jim was the one that Cam was going to in the late 90's and early 00's for help with street sh*t. That was Jim's thing forever. Most of us uptown knew him from just being one of those active dudes who always ran up on people, or handled sh*t for other people when they had problems. That's why Kay Slay (RIP) used to always tell people that Capo was official and not to f*ck with Jim because he was family. He was known for running with a million grimy dudes putting in work.

He was a street dude that they turned into a rapper to get money. A lot of people try to do research on YT, but that ain't a history book. You had to be outside or from uptown. Everybody knew about Jim back then and it wasn't for no music.

Jim was the street team. Zeke and British the titan was the muscle. Duke was the hustler.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Jim was the street team. Zeke and British the titan was the muscle. Duke was the hustler.

I'm talking about way before the music, fam. Not promotions.

 

[EastsideRio]

I'm talking about way before the music, fam. Not promotions.

Before the music… Jim was the nikka they sent to the store for dutch masters

 

[Awesome Wells]

Before the music… Jim was the nikka they sent to the store for dutch masters

He really wasn't.

 

[J-MIL]

Wonder if this who Cam said held him down during the BMF scuffle

 

[Osmosis]

Ballin was a bigger moment from what I remember

But Hey Ma and Oh Boy had more longevity. I don't think anybody goes back to listen to Ballin while Hey Ma has more cultural cache in 2025.

 

[Ozymandeas]

You can't beef with somebody you did patty cake with go on and end this "beef"

 

[DontEemTry]

You can't beef with somebody you did patty cake with go on and end this "beef"

 

[Still Benefited]

Yeah nobody outside of NYC didn’t care about Max so much that me and all my friends were fans living hundreds of miles south of NYC. You right nobody cared so much that the like of Wiz Khalifa, Future, Babyface Ray, and countless other artists weren’t influenced by the wave.

And I’m seeing people saying ballin ended up in the cultural mainstream, how when the term has been in Hip Hop for years by that point? How many people say “ballin” in the same way the ad-lib does while doing a jump shot motion? lol fr that shyt is such a fukkin reach, so cuz nikkaz say “ballin” which has been around since the 90s at least that means We Fly High had cultural impact. Yall buggin

Outliers,yall was probably Dipset fans too like alot of people were outside of NY. So you probably knew Hell Rell too. Generally speaking nobody gave a damn or knew about no Max B.

You definitely smoking dust.

Most of Max’s fanbase after his incarceration is outside of NYC

So im right,before he got locked up and got more pub for going to jail,nikkas REALLY aint care about no damn. Max B. They really tried to make him a thing after he got locked up though

 

[murksiderock]

This shyt corny, these guys too old for this shyt ...

I don't watch hip hop shows or pods or anything so I never hear about older rappers unless I'm on here. I can't tell you the last time I heard someone say these guys' names in my real life...

Growing up, as a guy not from NY, I can say that my impression was always, Jim not originally from Harlem, but was in and outta there since he was a kid, and Harlem was where he built his name at. So saying he not from Harlem is petty...

I think both sides have truth to, a)Cam got jealous when Jim started achieving stardom in music, and starting treating him different, and b)Jim started behaving differently towards Cam, when he starting achieving stardom. Both are probably true but these immature old nighas won't keep it real on that...

I don't know all they beefs but I'll say that a number of them made it to public knowledge back in the day. And as far as that goes, my impression is that none of these guys are real tough guys, but Jones was the guy really outside. Nobody was afraid of Jones and he took his L's along the way but he was an active street dude who was the muscle behind Dip, that was always the impression...

Jimmy wasn't knocking nikkas down or terrorizing shyt but he was the one in the mix, before and after Dip blew up...

These other guys weren't real street nikkas. Mase and Cam were pretty boy basketball players who were rappers. Everybody knows somebody, so everyone is cool with nikkas who really outside, and most rappers dip a toe in to some shyt. But I never, ever had the impression, behind anything, that Mase and Cam were street dudes, off nothing that was said. They were popular for different reasons that Jim was popular, but they knew each other and they circles overlapped...

So getting on here and talking about all the L's Jim took, I didn't know the BMF or Maino story but I heard all the other ass whoopins and peace'ing up with nikkas Jim has done. So we already knew all this shyt about Jim, we know he not some hardcore g. We also knew about the times Cam went out bad too...

These guys are 48 and 49 years old. It's entertaining from a content perspective but they too old for this shyt...