Cam’ron sounds off on Jim Jones on “It Is What It Is”

[Goat poster]

Yall remember when Jim said
Dave East aint from Harlem?

Shyt is par for the course for these dudes lol

 

[Yecht]

If Jim Jones is from the Bronx why did he never claim it? He’s always claimed Taft projects

This isn’t uncommon a good portion of people from Harlem and the Bronx have a connection to both through school, family members, going back and forth. If Jim is from Weeks Ave that shyt is literally like 4 stops to Harlem on the D Train…less than 15 minutes. First he was from Jerome Ave now Weeks Ave

I’ve never heard of Jim being from there…Weeks Ave is Hell Rell’s block

Cam act like his part of Harlem is the only valid part

There's a term for that. NOT Harlem


You know how many towns in NJ right across any bridge that are the same distance/time you mentioned from whatever borough it might be. You think they New Yorkers too?


Jomo mine as well be from Jersey City by your math

 

[Still Benefited]

Lmao mothafukka YES.

Ballin - #5 billboard, #1 rap
Pop champagne - #22 bill board, #3 rap

These are the only songs Jim Jones ever charted ever

Cam:
Horse and carriage #41 billboard, #9 rap
Let me know #99 billboard, #2 rap
What means the world - #83, 34
Oh boy, #4, #1
Hey ma #3, #4
Down and out #94, #20
Many other top 100 HH charted songs too many to list

Are you really trying to say JJ is a bigger artist than Camron when he was rappin....what are we doing here breh

I would say Juelz was bigger,not Jim. But im definitely saying Ballin was a bigger hit than Oh Boy. Ballin literally took the nation by Storm. 1 is the highest number you can go. Doesnt mean all 1s are created equal

 

[Yecht]

Yea. Tony Yayo would’ve loved to have Jim’s career and Jim’s influence on hip hop culture. Jim had very minimal rap skills. For him to drop all those records is a testament to his work ethic. Cam should be proud. He had a good eye bringing in Juelz and Jim as they helped keep Dipset alive. He could’ve signed a bunch of busters that no one wanted to listen to.

Like JR Writer, Hell Rell, Duke Da God, the list goes on

 

[Braman]

So Jim has street hits and cam had mainstream actual hits. That is literally my point and 50's point. 50 saw that Jim wanted the success that cam had and wanted to be that, and preyed on his jealously, and obviously it worked. He fell for the play.

You trying to make shyt like Ryder Muzik and "vampire life" clothing a big deal is pretty weak breh

Why do you keep referencing 50 to explain an era we lived in?! Were you outside 50 has a wildly deluded perception of what fame is. He’s also always on some fake deep shyt ‘See, once he saw, what it did ——*smiles aggressively*——he had the proper perspective *smiles aggressively*——bc , it was not ….THAT …*taps you on your shoulder*….ngga don’t be sayin shyt bruh.

But anyway, don’t need 50 to explain this for us. Ironically this the exact reason why 50 and Cam beefed. 50 trying to downplay street fame while Cam was on what’s essentially the Jim side of ‘yea I’m not a star but I’m independent, I’m eating’. Cam literally used Jim as an example to shyt on 50

Lastly, after that beef and after cam told us to get his pool in the back, Cam was a GHOST. While Jim was the face of what was once Dipset. If ballin never happens, if Jim never switched up, shyt STILL was headed that direction. Yall revisionist af. Yea you can clown vamp life but nggas wasnt fw Cam the Crime Pays, Cookies n some Apple juice days I was

 

[Awesome Wells]

Yall remember when Jim said
Dave East aint from Harlem?

Shyt is par for the course for these dudes lol

East ain't from Harlem either.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Why do you keep referencing 50 to explain an era we lived in?! Were you outside 50 has a wildly deluded perception of what fame is. He’s also always on some fake deep shyt ‘See, once he saw, what it did ——*smiles aggressively*——he had the proper perspective *smiles aggressively*——bc , it was not ….THAT …*taps you on your shoulder*….ngga don’t be sayin shyt bruh.

But anyway, don’t need 50 to explain this for us. Ironically this the exact reason why 50 and Cam beefed. 50 trying to downplay street fame while Cam was on what’s essentially the Jim side of ‘yea I’m not a star but I’m independent, I’m eating’. Cam literally used Jim as an example to shyt on 50

Lastly, after that beef and after cam told us to get his pool in the back, Cam was a GHOST. While Jim was the face of what was once Dipset. If ballin never happens, if Jim never switched up, shyt STILL was headed that direction. Yall revisionist af. Yea you can clown vamp life but nggas wasnt fw Cam the Crime Pays, Cookies n some Apple juice days I was

by the time crime pays/cookies and apple juice came out ballin was 3 years old and jim jones was having his reputation ran through the mud by max b and french while getting clowned for selling 17k on a byrd gang CD.. not sure why yall are making it seem like jim was some big dog who leveled up on cam

 

[Braman]

Like JR Writer, Hell Rell, Duke Da God, the list goes on

Some of you need to just ease out of the conversation. You clearly too young and weren’t outside…JR Writer became some people’s favorite and had a dope mixtape series. Hell rell was nice af just got caught up n the changing of the guard in rap

Also Max B falls under the Dipset umbrella


@Ed MOTHERfukkING G what does your hits daily double numbers tell us about Max B. He didn’t “chart” so I guess he wasnt a factor

 

[Ozymandeas]

Like JR Writer, Hell Rell, Duke Da God, the list goes on

Hell Rell was aight though

I agree about JR Writer. Never liked him.

 

[ISO]

It's the best part, lol. Most iconic too. I'm from the same block. 39th.

Nah.

 

[morris]

 

[Street Knowledge]

Cam’s DC shooting is a pretty airtight contradiction my guy. Ain’t no ‘obtuse’ shyt

If they did indeed send them shooters at Cam:

1) Cam snitched, 2) he reunited with jay at that concert, 3) jay also checked his temperature ‘see what can happen when we don’t run with fake beef’. 3b) Cam said he didn’t know how to take that, but just backed all the way down real diplomaticly ( ) ‘thank you for everything you did for me’.

If they DIDNT send shooters,

1) Cam snitched. 2) Cam lied, 2b) why did Cam try to get some nggas jammed for shyt they didn’t do

Also do remember Cam knew jay via dame outside of rap, so thats far more of a personal relationship than the avg rap beef

I remember Taxstone said he was a rat and if that happened today that rapper would get clowned

 

[ISO]

There's a term for that. NOT Harlem


You know how many towns in NJ right across any bridge that are the same distance/time you mentioned from whatever borough it might be. You think they New Yorkers too?


Jomo mine as well be from Jersey City by your math

Ohh I get that 100% I’m just pointing out dude likely had connection on both sides it’s common.

Jimmy looking funny in the light tho reading the thread and like a dikk rider that grandmother shyt never held no weight…classic trick to hood hop

 

[Awesome Wells]

Nah.

 

[spliz]

Yall remember when Jim said
Dave East aint from Harlem?

Shyt is par for the course for these dudes lol

East type ain’t from Harlem tho no funny. lol.