Buzzfeed: families say male friends, family radicalized by misogynist, anti LGBT Andrew Tate, Kevin Samuels, Fresh Fit podcast

[Ziggiy]

I don’t recall Kevin Samuels EVER being an advocate for physically harming women.

Please correct if i’m wrong

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

It also helps really explore the root of misogyny:

It's dudes who feel insecure about their worth and desirability towards women

It's why they always all advocate for old school society where women had less of say, less power, etc.

They hide it under the guise of "natural roles" but they're really lying to themselves

I'm not saying that women are perfect or that all men are like this or that even all manosphere men are like this, but the reality is that this is the case a good amount of it's followers.

As I've said before, any useful advice the manosphere offers can be extracted in a couple of days. If you religiously follow these dudes, you're just telling on yourself.

I'd agree with the bolded. You come to the manosphere, get your answers, test them out and see how well they work. Pick and choose what's worked best and then move on.

Before the manosphere, you'd have men walking around thinking they aren't getting dates because of their personality and being told "women don't care about looks as much as men" when the reality is that statement actually should be

"women care about looks, but care about other things too, and sometimes more than looks"

You can be a great person, but if there's no attraction there, you're wasting your time trying to negotiate or manifest it into existence without taking tangible steps to make yourself more attractive. Men figure this out either through raw experience (noticing how all of a sudden he's getting dates after he got into fitness and fashion, revealing that it actually wasn't his personality holding him back but indeed his appearance) or they figure it out with the help of other men just being real with them and showing them what women say about men his height, weight bank account or lifestyle when they feel like they can speak freely without worrying about hurting mens feelings.

When you stay in the manosphere that's a sign that something in you has stagnated. You need more friends, you need more hobbies, you need to find inner peace and not rely on the manosphere for validation. People who stay in it are insecure and haven't fully grown past some of their hangups

 

[skyrunner1]

We've had 2+ decades of corporate interest playing up lazy feminism...men being demonized with women being treated like they can do no wrong.

You have a generation of boys & men who are expected to be men when it serves women's interests (e.g., being providers, protectors) but who are demonized if they have any expectations of women. You still need to be 6', 6-figures, 6-pack while women can be fat, alcoholic messes and still get coddled.

Seeing what happens when women run the dating market unchecked makes me understand why patriarchy is a thing. Having women in their early-to-mid-20s responsible for mate pairing is just a social disaster. I'm not sure how anyone can say otherwise.

Men (on the whole) need counterparts and having a huge chunk of women all thinking and acting like they deserve the top 5-10% of men just for having a vagina destabilizes all of society in a huge way. As does having the same women whore themselves out for those same men. 8 women having the same baby daddy is the extreme of what happens when women are allowed to run the market unfettered.

If you don't pull a good woman early (which is hard to do anyway) it's a wrap. You might have dating success or success w/ casual sex, but in terms of settling down with a woman with anything approaching a traditional past & skillset, it's basically over.

My boy almost got seriously involved with a woman who was a Sugar Baby (basically, an escort). Found out a few months in that ole girl had an account on a Sugar Baby site. He put me on game...advised getting an anonymous profile on Seeking Arrangement to screen who you're talking to. I've seen multiple women I've matched with on the dating apps on there. Brehs are about to wife literal whores out here.

It's bad, and I think society's not going to course-correct away from lazy feminism soon enough to not have women's accountability be a trojan horse for right-wing politics.

Agree with all this but its been 5 + decades.. People are just catching on because Social Media is too tempting of a trap for women not to broadcast their fukkery anymore. We have more men try to deny these things and keep other men disillusioned but while they are tryna pedestalize and simp distract, women go on social media and show for the world to see so there is no denying it because it is their voice and image direct.

Men will always get pushback from everyone because the majority are needed to be the mules of society. You need to fall for the illusions because you are needed to but flowers, gifts, worthless diamonds, over priced trinkets, bigger houses, more cars, trips, etc. You will even have men touting stupidity like married men make more money while omitting THEY HAVE TO because as a mule you are beaten to keep working while a dude who isnt or controls his household spending doesnt have to work as much of course big companies come up with these studies because they know attached men can be controlled by their purse strings.

The illusion must be kept up because everyone benefits from it. If a man is informed on whats really going on out here, he will move different and in his best interest. They want men with the simp chip to bend over backwards for everyone else, to set themselves on fire to keep everyone else warm. Will be interesting to see this play out, pendulum has just started to swing it seems.

 

[MikelArteta]

Men are waking up about time

 

[Phitz]

what and where is this manosphere?

I've seen and heard of this "realm" for months and I still dont know what or where it is.

Is it a site or a group or what?

 

[KidJSoul]

I'd agree with the bolded. You come to the manosphere, get your answers, test them out and see how well they work. Pick and choose what's worked best and then move on.

Before the manosphere, you'd have men walking around thinking they aren't getting dates because of their personality and being told "women don't care about looks as much as men" when the reality is that statement actually should be

"women care about looks, but care about other things too, and sometimes more than looks"

You can be a great person, but if there's no attraction there, you're wasting your time trying to negotiate or manifest it into existence without taking tangible steps to make yourself more attractive. Men figure this out either through raw experience (noticing how all of a sudden he's getting dates after he got into fitness and fashion, revealing that it actually wasn't his personality holding him back but indeed his appearance) or they figure it out with the help of other men just being real with them and showing them what women say about men his height, weight bank account or lifestyle when they feel like they can speak freely without worrying about hurting mens feelings.

When you stay in the manosphere that's a sign that something in you has stagnated. You need more friends, you need more hobbies, you need to find inner peace and not rely on the manosphere for validation. People who stay in it are insecure and haven't fully grown past some of their hangups

Well said.

 

[KidJSoul]

what and where is this manosphere?

I've seen and heard of this "realm" for months and I still dont know what or where it is.

Is it a site or a group or what?

Its a collection of online youtubers/streamers like Kevin Samuels, Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, etc. Along with other online forums and websites like the redpill, mgtow

Who espouse that men should live up to traditional masculine values. They tend to also which for old school norms for women, and sometimes they can either say misogynistic stuff, or allow it to fester

This probably sounds weird as hell most people who follow these things religiously don't have much else going on

 

[Reality]

Agree with all this but its been 5 + decades.. People are just catching on because Social Media is too tempting of a trap for women not to broadcast their fukkery anymore. We have more men try to deny these things and keep other men disillusioned but while they are tryna pedestalize and simp distract, women go on social media and show for the world to see so there is no denying it because it is their voice and image direct.

Men will always get pushback from everyone because the majority are needed to be the mules of society. You need to fall for the illusions because you are needed to but flowers, gifts, worthless diamonds, over priced trinkets, bigger houses, more cars, trips, etc. You will even have men touting stupidity like married men make more money while omitting THEY HAVE TO because as a mule you are beaten to keep working while a dude who isnt or controls his household spending doesnt have to work as much of course big companies come up with these studies because they know attached men can be controlled by their purse strings.

The illusion must be kept up because everyone benefits from it. If a man is informed on whats really going on out here, he will move different and in his best interest. They want men with the simp chip to bend over backwards for everyone else, to set themselves on fire to keep everyone else warm. Will be interesting to see this play out, pendulum has just started to swing it seems.

Extremely well put. Our capitalist set-up sees dating & marriage as a means of control of men (they don’t really care about men vs. women, they just care about who is working & spending- feminism is the other side of the consumerist push). There is pressure from society on men to get married & settle down from a career perspective. You’re seen as a safer worker when you are married and/or have kids. You lose flexibility to manage your labor & spending when you’re responsible for someone, and when you have a partner who will look at you as less than for not providing nice trinkets they see on IG.

I see it all the time dating. When some women get a glimpse of the lifestyle they can have with you, they start letting it slip about wanting to take social media pics of your dinners, travel, etc. Your relationship becomes an avenue for consumerism. It seems like that’s about as close as you can get to a traditional wife if you’re not getting plugged in w/ quality women via friends & family. They’ll play the wifey position, but it’s very conditional.

As a man, I understand that’s how it goes for us, but at least women back in the day would also come to you without 20+ bodies & being 20lbs overweight.

 

[skyrunner1]

what and where is this manosphere?

I've seen and heard of this "realm" for months and I still dont know what or where it is.

Is it a site or a group or what?

Thats the thing, there is no actual "what" or "where".. Its just a term you can throw on any male related content on the internet. Term came up more in the blog era so lets say late '00s to identify all the blogs talking about what men topics but now its basically morphed to shouting down any men talking point that doesnt fit the narrative of mainstream.

So not sure you will get many answers for your question

 

[Thanos]

There is no community, No OGs or good people w/ moral standing so folks are looking online for father figures,etc. Why do you think certain movements have became popular over the past 5 years.

With that said, I do not care for gender content. Please create community.

 

[The Plug]

How did you make this about Black men?

We been knew about that stupid bytch man

 

[Rakim Allah]

Can anyone here explain in clear terms how the Black community is a matriarchy while also explaining how the white community is not?

Here you go, friend.

 

[MikelArteta]

I guess this is Buzzfeeds way of trying to stay relevant after becoming far left and failing to hold on to their ADD Audience even with GIF's every paragraph.

At this point, I'm not even against Fresh & Fits platform moving up as much as I dislike them. They get knocked out of the paint like they did Andrew Tate and they'll come for more reasonable channels like The Lead Attorney, Coach Greg Adams, BGS IBMOR, even T Hasan Johnson. I've seen this too many times, the mainstream does not want everyone to have an equal voice, they want the left to have a higher voice and for feminist-minded women to do their bidding and mute opposition at their will. All of a sudden even people like Ericka Williams (who is in the financial space) has a problem with only men doing podcasts despite society shifting online to get their voice out, even seen her sneak dissing Kevin Samuels.

No point in trying to float a solution, the mainstream doesn't want one and would rather be absolved of accountability. People made Cynthia G famous reacting to her shock-jock talking points and shes a total hypocrite. There was the whole Pookie & Ray Ray Debate that went on for years, people like her said black men were just jealous of them. Then turn around and use those same criminals/deadbeats as the scapegoat for why the black community is in shambles. Crazy how these women can come up with a complete psychological profile of a man based on some social science classes they took in college, a mans astrological sign, and whether he follows certain manosphere creators, but still screwing up and having sex with the wrong men after 1-4 dates.

I guess in some ways, this means the SYSBM, MGTOW, Volcel/Monk Mode movements are still growing despite my disagreements with them. You are simply not going to erase a mans mindset just because you erase the information from the internet.

All these dudes are now going to rumble where they can be uncensored

Tate is on rumble with almost a million subscribers

 

[CarmelBarbie]

Cookie cookie cookie. I Cookie Monster.

 

[Legend27]

Bruh more than half of the people on this site do not give a single fukk about the blk community just by how the way they engage in these conversations with ridiculous & incorrect statements with biased surface level thinking .

I don’t recall Kevin Samuels EVER being an advocate for physically harming women.

Please correct if i’m wrong

tbf he advocates for bdsm consensual “domestic discipline”