They felt threw saint kevin in there. His shyt was legit. But craziness edge lord shyt like tate and not fresh not fit
Buzzfeed: families say male friends, family radicalized by misogynist, anti LGBT Andrew Tate, Kevin Samuels, Fresh Fit podcast
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Scustin Bieburr
Baby baybee baybee UUUGH
But that is how modern journalism works. Take the most extreme elements of a group whether it's rainbow hair colored Fred Flintstone looking women talking about you're anti LGBTQ because you've voiced discomfort at pre-pubescent children being exposed to sexual content of any kind, or whether it's men justifying domestic violence. You take those elements, imply that represents the entire group and then wait for rebuttals that you can respond to with more examples of extremists. The goal is to use the extremists to represent the group. This is how you get clicks and advertising dollars now.
The article won't talk about how men end up in these spaces because of female caused trauma. They won't ask the men "what happened to you ?" Because that will complicate the narrative they're trying to sell.
When a man is cheated on, he seeks emotional relief and answers.
When a man is rejected time and time again, each time like clockwork being given vague, demonstrably false or no reasoning he seeks emotional relief and answers.
When a woman files for divorce from her husband without any attempts to resolve things with him, and destroys his finances and takes away his children. He seeks emotional relief and answers.
These men come to the manosphere seeking answers to what are age old questions at this point
"Why does the woman I'm talking to simultaneously complain about how boorish and frustrating her man is yet continues to stay with him?
"Why is it that I was told to be an active listener, empathetic and responsive to women's needs but a guy who is the total opposite is getting attention from women but I'm not?"
"Why do women say they want X features in a man but continue to choose men that don't have those features"
"Why did she cheat on me?"
"Why am I invisible to women and can't get any dates?"
"Why did she ghost me?"
When most women are confronted with these questions they literally can't empathize with the men in those scenarios. Women don't know what it's like to get railroaded in family court. Most women don't know what it's like to be told all their good qualities and still be confusingly rejected by a person who they thought had interest in them. Most women won't know the humiliation of their awkwardness being branded as "creepy". Most women won't know what it's like to listen to a man complain about a certain type of woman but then continuously choose her even when given the exact thing they're looking for. Most women won't have the experience of being told everything they know about the opposite sex from their parent of the same sex only to watch how all of what they were taught resulted in them just being humiliated, overlooked, and preyed upon.
They don't live the life men do, and they're fed content continuously that demonizes men whilst also setting unrealistic and contradictory standards for what men should look like, sound like, and live like. The manosphere responds to these questions in a way that seems to make sense to these men.
You ask "why was I cheated on?" The manosphere responds: your mannerisms were too meek, you weren't dominant enough and your girl ran into the arms of an alpha male. Here's how you can stop that
You ask "why can't I get dates? My female relatives and friends tell me I'm such a great guy and any woman would be lucky to be with me, so why don't any women want to?" The manosphere responds : you're too short, fat, and frankly you're ugly. They just don't want to tell you that, because you're a soft beta male and they want to spare your feelings. Here's what you need to do...
You ask "why did she ghost me?" The manosphere responds: a better looking, wealthier and frankly more interesting man showed up. These women are never satisfied with one man, they always need to trade up. You need to spin plates. What does that mean? I'll explain...
"Why did she divorce me?" You ask
"Because family court prioritizes women and children so there's a financial benefit to be earned by divorcing a man. Here's what you can do to avoid that next time" says the manosphere.
In each instance the manosphere accepts a man's anger which is coming from a place of hurt, tells him he's justified for that anger, offers him a reason, then prescribes him a solution. Men's minds don't work like women where we want to talk about our feelings on the subject and that's enough. Men don't complain to vent or just be heard, they complain looking for solutions. Women are utterly unprepared to support these men who've failed to meet relationship goals despite being raised in feminized spaces. They've got nothing for these men beyond platitudes or encouraging greater sympathy and understanding for women. Even if the conclusions that manosphere gurus come to women aren't based on reliable science or objective facts, it sounds logical and realistic enough that men hearing these explanations feel satisfied. Women don't even have rational sounding explanations to answer these questions so they're in Juelz mode when men ask and at best they're unhelpful and at worst, men feel like their experience is being invalidated and the woman he's seeking support from is gaslighting him
And how could they have answers? They've never lived men's experiences and they've been told that 90%of men are trash anyway so what dialogue is there even to be had? Articles like this are exploitative because they're not actually interested in improving the wellbeing of men. Their goal is to sell ads and subscriptions. The very real pain some of these interviewees are going through is just another slice of content. They're being exploited under the guise of some kind of activism.
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ultraflexed
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Your a smart women, but the wilful ignorance you've displayed with your opinions in this thread is exactly why these men are operating the way they are currently.
Look at the Celtics coach, he gets exposed but the female staffer who is at fault just as much is protected, but women want equal right until its time to get equal rights.
Women will usually get full custody of the children even if they've proven the shyttier parent.
Women get to use men for "food" dates and then ghost them and act like nothings wrongs.
Women act like lemmings, following eachother off the cliff of single mom status following hot girl summers and expect a man who's childless and busted his ass building himself to clean up her mess
Women can't celebrate there accomplishments without using man's head as stepping stone.
All this talk about black women being the most educated which is not true, there just the most enrolled with the most debt.
You would never know 54% of black men are single and childless.
60% of black men will reach the middle class.
2.5 million black men are in the upper middle class.
I've seen vids where the majority black women selected a scammer over a man working a 9 to 5 job?
Seen vids of women who are average at best that have no idea how much the average man earns while shytting on the middle class men.
These women are creating these men....
Roger king
Superstar
Guys please dont buy into this nonsense, what they are mad about is men/black men not pandering to their egos and every whims anymore, we are suppose to be subservient and worship the ''queens'' and anyone who does not is a misogynist. Go look up LSA and see the vile stuff they talk about black men, aborting black men, celebrating their deaths, vile and evil stuff. The manosphere is no where as corrupt and vile as the open misogynists who are allowed to prosper and get high up in power structure as well.
Anything that does not pander to their egos and worship the ground they walk on is misogyny, having standards is misogyny.
Anything that does not pander to their egos and worship the ground they walk on is misogyny, having standards is misogyny.
What happens when you play apply principles in different situations without regard for the differences
You are in inbred donkey blinded by the hem of your cape.
My position is that I will laugh when I see women having to wade through the same shyt as men. You attempted to shame me for my position with the claim that women having this type of voice is a recent phenomenon.
I have explained to you that what is recent is subjective. That should have been enough for you to understand that the experiences of the current generation is not the experiences of the previous generation. You then tried to draw a comparison between the struggles we(?) as black people go through. That comparison fails due to the different conditions we live in to this day.
The path for removing sex as barrier is simply more straightforward. There is a reason why white women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action. Their sex isn't going to determine family they're born into and the resources they have access to.
Anyway, to my ignore list you go. You are truly a rotten piece of shyt.
The Fade
I don’t argue with niqqas on the Internet anymore
Kevin had white boys paying homage to him as well. He was world wide and had a lot of different backgrounds in his comments and was the most watched dude. Let’s not forget a good part of his numbers were Hate watchers. Plenty of white girls, Asian women, Latinas called in and plenty of them and their male counterparts in the comments. Even Jon Zherka respected him more than he does Tate. Had Kevin never died he would’ve blew up even more from TikTok just like Tate and Sneako and Sneako doesn’t even have TikTok. All you need is a fanbase to chop up and edit it for you and he had one. Tate would’ve had to share the scrutiny. Also Kevin was breaking in Hollywood and was the face of the “High Value Man” debate. Now that he’s gone Tate always drops that High Value Man shyt and he became the face of it. When Kevin died, that’s when Tate popped up even more, before he you could only really see him on Fresh and Fit and obscure interviews no one cared about. Trying to fight the Paul brothers and they didn’t even give a shyt about him.
Tate is just now getting the streaming views Kevin had at his blow up moment. He had more consistent live viewers than Tate did before Tate was kicked from YT, even when Kev was around 12-15k a night streams. At his max 33k.
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ultraflexed
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It also helps really explore the root of misogyny:
It's dudes who feel insecure about their worth and desirability towards women
It's why they always all advocate for old school society where women had less of say, less power, etc.
They hide it under the guise of "natural roles" but they're really lying to themselves
I'm not saying that women are perfect or that all men are like this or that even all manosphere men are like this, but the reality is that this is the case a good amount of it's followers.
As I've said before, any useful advice the manosphere offers can be extracted in a couple of days. If you religiously follow these dudes, you're just telling on yourself.
The irony is KS was trying to gain the reach Tate now has, I've never seen Tate as like or the replacement for KS it's a lazy notion people use
Honestly I think black men are the MOST tolerable of women(of all colors) who hate them and do not have their best interest.
I "criticize" brehs all the time on this site for their lack of self respect.
Black men dont know how to walk away, but just stick around until they're damaged. Walk away..even virutally, tay out of these women's dm's. Why punish yourself?
Ya'll even tolerate the insults and manipulation you get on here. They literally think you're stupid, and tell you in so many words.
Learn to love yourself and stop going back and forth with women who dont like you. They will complain and insult you anyway, you have nothign to prove, dont waste your time.
I "criticize" brehs all the time on this site for their lack of self respect.
Black men dont know how to walk away, but just stick around until they're damaged. Walk away..even virutally, tay out of these women's dm's. Why punish yourself?
Ya'll even tolerate the insults and manipulation you get on here. They literally think you're stupid, and tell you in so many words.
Learn to love yourself and stop going back and forth with women who dont like you. They will complain and insult you anyway, you have nothign to prove, dont waste your time.
People have valid complaints, but know that making change is hard and difficult, so they latch onto movements that absolve them of any responsibility and blame it solely on other peopleThis thread isfrom both sides at times.
Black men need black women, and black women need black men. There is no other way around it.
This is like the plug complaining about the socket and vice versa. Until we work together, ain't shyt happening.
Black women empowerment talk oft-times borders on misandristic - not all of it, but women have IN GENERAL eaten it up wholesale at the black communities detriment. On the flipside, this emerging force that is the manosphere (corny!) is the male empowerment version that also sometimes borders on misogynistic, not all of it but more men are beginning to run with the hot takes that cause more harm than good.
The problem is our ability to discern prudent messaging from the fringe, this lies within the individuals level of accountability. If a person has little to no means of holding themselves accountable, they will gravitate towards the fringe messaging of blaming/attacking the opposite gender instead of finding flaws within their character to improve to better their results in the dating pool.
An insecurity that develops into a ever growing chasm of loneliness due to the inability to think in a nuanced manner regarding the opposite sex, instead painting with negative broad strokes that justify their poor choices and impotence (men and women) in the dating world.
"ALL THE GOOD MEN ARE EITHER DEAD, IN JAIL, GAY OR MARRIED"
"ALL THE GOOD WOMEN HAVE ALREADY BEEN SNATCHED UP, ALL THATS LEFT IS HOES, GOLD DIGGERS AND FAT bytchES"
"IF HE AINT PAYING MY RENT, NAILS, AND CLOTHES WHY WOULD I GIVE HIM THE TIME OF DAY"
"IF SHES NOT PUTTING OUT AFTER THE FIRST DATE THEN IM NOT INTERESTED ANY MORE"
Both sides have work to do taming the extraneous bullshyt that is circulating into impressionable minds. There IS a middle ground where both genders can maintain respect for themselves and others - but the allure for total control/power is too much for some influencers to ignore.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Which Black men are they letting rock, ma’am? Kevin Samuels has passed and Crispy is irrelevant, friend.
Of course they do. But those skills aren’t developed to the point that they can see through this stuff and parse out the helpful from bad.
When did black men in AMERICA have control of anything? BAsed on the history I've read, black men in AMERICA have never had control over any woman, even women that look like them?
Can you elaborate in what way? After emancipation, it was every former slave for themself. People did work together as a neccessity, but I dont recall black men being in control of what black women do in AMERICA