Buster Douglas Reflects on Dream Win Over Mike Tyson

[H.I.M.]

Stuff like this is easy to say in retrospect...but when you have such an aura of invincibility around you like Mike had in the late-80's...you almost can't help but develop a type of arrogance that can led to bad habits all around for a fighter and his staff

Mike and his training staff probably went into that fight like...

"Buster douglas?"

3 Ko losses? A decision lost to Jessie Ferguson?

Just another easy KO1 to add to the dockett

If they had've actually did a proper scouting report...and watched the Tucker & McCall fights they would've known duke was a problem skillwise & stylistically...But shyt, Williams, Spinks, Biggs & Tucker were supposed to be those stylistic threats as well...and they were ran thru with ease...

 

[YourMajesty]

Was watching OTL on ESPN about this fight and they had Teddy Atlas and Bernstein on there. Teddy was just shytting on Mike something crazy. As a Tyson stan I was getting pissed lol.

Teddy need to let that shyt go

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

People seem to be getting offended at some of the Buster comments. Look, he was a good fighter and the fight surprised everyone that will go down in history.

However, literally every source/piece of evidence will back-up that Mike was not in his prime whatsoever; had not trained properly, and was surrounded by a bunch of clowns...


...and he still legit dropped Douglas

How that leads into 'Buster would've beat any Mike' is beyond me.

 

[SuikodenII]

People seem to be getting offended at some of the Buster comments. Look, he was a good fighter and the fight surprised everyone that will go down in history.

However, literally every source/piece of evidence will back-up that Mike was not in his prime whatsoever; had not trained properly, and was surrounded by a bunch of clowns...


...and he still legit dropped Douglas

How that leads into 'Buster would've beat any Mike' is beyond me.

What was Tyson's prime in your opinion?

 

[semtex]

People seem to be getting offended at some of the Buster comments. Look, he was a good fighter and the fight surprised everyone that will go down in history.

However, literally every source/piece of evidence will back-up that Mike was not in his prime whatsoever; had not trained properly, and was surrounded by a bunch of clowns...


...and he still legit dropped Douglas

How that leads into 'Buster would've beat any Mike' is beyond me.

He said he didn't even like boxing after the 80s

 

[H.I.M.]

Tyson was definitely in his prime at the time of the Douglas fight...by all measures...he just didn't train properly for the fight.

If you watch him a year later against Ruddock, it was the same ol' Tyson (in the 1st fight) came in motivated and well trained against an opponent who had alot of hype behind him and was seen as a legit threat...and proceeded to straight up walk right on thru Ruddock just like he did err'body else prior to facing Douglas...now in that 2nd Ruddock fight, he showed shades of the version of Mike that showed up against Douglas...a sluggish, undertrained brawler...who abandoned the offensive (& Defensive) technique(s) and fundamentals which got him to where he was...luckily for Mike, Ruddock didn't have Buster's skillset and was tailor made for Mike to be able to beat in a slugfest.

 

[Newzz]

So ur saying tysons prime was before that fight?

A coincidence that he fought stiffs and bums?

buster was a stiff and a bum

Stiffs and Bums?


Yall really discredit the 80s Heavyweights alot


The "stiffs and bums" that Tyson fought would beat the HW's of today outside Wlad and Wilder

 

[H.I.M.]

Stiffs and Bums?


Yall really discredit the 80s Heavyweights alot


The "stiffs and bums" that Tyson fought would beat the HW's of today outside Wlad and Wilder

There are fringe contenders that fought in the 80's that would look like Ali or Joe Louis when compared to Wilder

And there are several 80's Heavys that would hand Wlad a loss if they were matched up in the same era prime 4 prime.

It's funny how a dude like Tony Tubbs was considered a mid-to-low tier Heavyweight contender during the 80's...but a blown up Middleweight Tony Tubbs clone like Byrd is considered an "elite" Heavyweight in the Klitschko era...Eddie Chambers fights like a tinier, less skilled, shorter armed, less powerful version of Tubbs too and he's a borderline top 5 win for Wlad.

Tubbs just might be better than anyvbody Wlad has ever faced...but just barely is a top 10 win for Tyson in the so-called "weak" era that he supposedly fought in...

Look at the fluidity, slickness & technique of Tubbs






when was the last time we saw a Heavyweight that fought like this? Outside of the inferior Tubbs clones Chris Byrd & Eddie Chambers...THIS was considered a mid-to-low tier Heavyweight in Tyson's era

 

[patscorpio]

Tyson was definitely in his prime at the time of the Douglas fight...by all measures...he just didn't train properly for the fight.

If you watch him a year later against Ruddock, it was the same ol' Tyson (in the 1st fight) came in motivated and well trained against an opponent who had alot of hype behind him and was seen as a legit threat...and proceeded to straight up walk right on thru Ruddock just like he did err'body else prior to facing Douglas...now in that 2nd Ruddock fight, he showed shades of the version of Mike that showed up against Douglas...a sluggish, undertrained brawler...who abandoned the offensive (& Defensive) technique(s) and fundamentals which got him to where he was...luckily for Mike, Ruddock didn't have Buster's skillset and was tailor made for Mike to be able to beat in a slugfest.

razor could have won that second fight with tyson if he hadn't regressed so much.by regressed i mean forgot that he had a great jab and fell in love with his power...all he wanted to do was hit that nikka with "the smash" anywhere he could for 12 rounds

tyson-ruddock 2 though ..what a fukking slugfest that was..my favorite tyson fight

 

[Newzz]

There are fringe contenders that fought in the 80's that would look like Ali or Joe Louis when compared to Wilder

And there are several 80's Heavys that would hand Wlad a loss if they were matched up in the same era prime 4 prime.

It's funny how a dude like Tony Tubbs was considered a mid-to-low tier Heavyweight contender during the 80's...but a blown up Middleweight Tony Tubbs clone like Byrd is considered an "elite" Heavyweight in the Klitschko era...Eddie Chambers fights like a tinier, less skilled, shorter armed, less powerful version of Tubbs too and he's a borderline top 5 win for Wlad.

Tubbs just might be better than anyvbody Wlad has ever faced...but just barely is a top 10 win for Tyson in the so-called "weak" era that he supposedly fought in...

Look at the fluidity, slickness & technique of Tubbs






when was the last time we saw a Heavyweight that fought like this? Outside of the inferior Tubbs clones Chris Byrd & Eddie Chambers...THIS was considered a mid-to-low tier Heavyweight in Tyson's era

I was talking in the Floyd/Manny thread about Tyrell Biggs and his footwork in the 1st couple of rounds. Dude was gliding around like a Coke-Zero version of Ali


What is somebody like Chris Arreola gonna do with that? Bermane Stiverne?


Michael Spinks would destroy these boys....Tyson beat him 1 round


Stiffs and Bums?


This deserves it's own thread for real. Razor Ruddock would be a force today


Is Kubrat Pulev gonna beat him?

 

[patscorpio]

The 80s heavies were very talented..what gives them their rep is so many of them fell victim to their vices and or bullshyt. Buster was far from a bum. He had physical talent for days. His problem was just he had problems sustaining motivation and effort. It was all mental with him.

 

[Newzz]

The 80s heavies were very talented..what gives them their rep is so many of them fell victim to their vices and or bullshyt. Buster was far from a bum. He had physical talent for days. His problem was just he had problems sustaining motivation and effort. It was all mental with him.

Exactly. And as a true fan of Boxing and it's history, to sit back and let people call Tyson's opponents bums or talk down on the 80s HWs is not gonna happen.

70s HWs > 90s HWs > 80s HWs > 2000 HWs > 2010 HWs

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Buster should have been a better fighter than he was.

That nikka coulda been PROBLEMS for any HW of any era

 

[TheBeigeBomber]

for a small guy with short reach tysons inside game was horrible.

 

[krackdagawd]

tyson-ruddock 2 though ..what a fukking slugfest that was..my favorite tyson fight

Tyson hit him with a monster of a low blow in like the 2nd round and it didn't even phase dude.

I'm going to rewatch this tonight