interesting thread....idk...are the stereotypes of Black Britons the same as african-americans?
British black actors go to America to find success because they can't get roles outside 'stereotypes
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DaRealness
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Yep.
Pretty much.
Then that makes this all more confusing, but further reinforces ANOTHER stereotype, that we Americans think english accents and mannerisms are somehow more refined and human, hence why i think they get better roles over here. It can't be a question of grind, some cats been grinding in Hollywood for years.
Yep.
This was the first time I saw him when people were speculating about who the next Doctor would be.
RatherUnique
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In what alternate reaility are Black male actors receiving non-stereotypical roles in the U.S? A show like Misfits, if made in America, would never have a lead Black actor who survives the longest across seasons, or be filled with mad mixed race chics. I would argue, after watching tons of U.K tv/movies, that U.K television is far more accepting of interacial relationships/sex than in the U.S. It's like no big thing for a Black/White couple to get together on UK shows.
They had sex one time( giving him false hope) and then she told him it was over and she chose the other guy. He went a little crazy in his office after and that's why they were so quick to believe he killed her.
RatherUnique
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"When we don't have our own media." Why do Brits shyt on themselves so much? There are shytloads of excellent British TV shows/movies/actors/directors out there. Especially independent movies - which are better than blockbusters usually. Sherlock is magnificant, one of the best shows on television. The U.K has 60 million people, so comparing it to countries of similiar/near size the UK packs out content and has a huge industry. Ireland, NZ, Jamaica Australia, Canada ect. All grow up watching mainly US/UK stuff.It's one of those things on British TV you just expect now.It's been that way for years. When we don't have our own media, we don't have much of a say. I knew the Luther character wouldn't have a black love interest and definitely not a black ride or die sidekick like Alice. The one black woman on the show was trying to bring him down. If you look at it from that angle, then yes you have a point. His wife was half indian btw.
I'm still a fan of the show (season 3 was still good but was the weakest imo).
RatherUnique
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This is an exact description of the U.S film industry. We have over 40,000,000 Blacks in the U.S, yet not a single real Black family soap, not one. Same with movies, almost no new Black male actors get leads in anything. Denzel, Will ect are veteran exceptions. shyt the realest portrayel of U.S slavery ever in film was just made by a Black British director, w/ a Black British lead. No American was making 12 Years a Slave like McQueen.
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As a black man living in England I always thought that we were represented fairly well, better than in many other countries at least. I can turn on my television and I can see black men in a number of roles that break away from regular stereotypes. I will say this though, you wont see too many black women (non mixed) on TV over here.Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha
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uk isn't a country nor is Britain, Britain doesn't really make a lot of shows only England does. n even then its usually within just London. so one city in England is pumping out all those shows...
fukk the way they talk. i don't like it. it makes me uncomfortable..
DaRealness
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You misunderstood me. I meant "we" as in black people, we don't have our own media and aren't in control of anything, therefore we don't write our own stories. It was better decades ago than it is now. There's a brilliant film called Burning an Illusion that was made back in 1981 by a black director by the name of Menelik Shabazz which is a love story about the trials of a young black couple trying to survive around that time period. There was a movie before that made in 1975 called Pressure which was also very good. There have been others since, but those two movies imo were the pinnacle of black british filmmaking. Written by black people and so accurate and on point without being watered down it was damn near scary.
Even a show like Desmonds for example.....Bill Cosby was so impressed by the few episodes of it he watched he even had the lead character on an episode of the Cosby show. Not to mention we had other shows throughout the 70s up to the late 90s that featured the black experience very well, whether it was comedy or drama. Now we have nothing. I mean yeah, we got stuff like 'Brothers with no game' on youtube and a few other things, but there's no comparison compared to what we once had. We even had a black channel on cable back in the 90s, but that's gone.
As for showing interracial relationships, of course there's nothing wrong with that. It's a reality. But they portray like every black person is on some
and you would think black couples and families were virtually non existent, so I can't call that progress.DaRealness
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Exactly, so it's not a good thing when they don't even show the other half.. The 'darkest' love interest of a black man on TV is a mixed raced woman. Black love is very rare on screen.
If Luther came out in the 90s, the black community here would have kicked up a major fuss about the fact that none of his love interests were black, but it's like we're so used to how things are now that we would have fell on the floor in shock if he did have a black woman by his side lol.
Now, on the rare occasion you do see a black couple on TV, you end up yelling to your people upstairs to quickly turn it to channel 5 so they can see it for themselves.
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