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can you verify the race of the posters doing exactly what you are talking about?Dudes in here criticizing the NFL for not hiring black coaches and GM then making excuses for Joe Rogan in other threads.
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Brian Flores files lawsuit against NFL
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Man On Fire
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If Skip and Shannon can't get ratings close to ESPN then those two are barely being watched by anyone. These kind of takes are done to be controversial so they can get a buzz on social media that will hopefully lead to people watching the show. They gotta fill the void Whitlock left.
Show was much better with Whitlock
I wonder if maybe their should be a Rooney rule-type rule for OC & DC coaching positions instead of Head Coach? 95+% of new NFL head coaches are hot coordinators & their aren't enough black coordinators to begin with. That's the biggest problem of why more black coaches aren't getting head coaching positions.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
I’d start earlier in the coaching tree. If you’re an OC in the league you probably started out as positions coach, followed by becoming a passing/running game coordinator. Those are the key positions but you often see black guys who are stuck being a d-line or secondary coach for years, never getting a shot at a promotion. You see them on the sidelines…the super energetic older black coach running around yelling and high fiving players.
I think they need to follow the nba model: more former players have to go into coaching. These white dudes get jobs with next to no playing experience and that’s an advantage…but former players have advantages too. Anthony Lynn played for Mike Shanahan, now is about to be Kyle Shanahan’s OC. Making connections and grinding is gonna be the key.
The Wigdor Firm is one of the biggest name law firms in NYC and is specifically known for this type of work. There are smaller black practices that he could’ve gone to but he probably took a reference and went with who he was told was the best. Black attorneys are less than 5 percent of lawyers in America. Black men even less so based on optics. This isn’t a civil rights case where there are big names people. There isn’t really a big name black plaintiff’s side attorney in New York.
Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
Man, Flores shoulda waited a couple weeks. Then ran to the media after the Texans hired McCown
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
Not only are the optics not good, they absolutely can impact his case.
Counsel for the teams and the NFL will seek to impeach the credibility oF Flores' claim against them.
There are top Black litigators at so-called "white-shoe" law firms that he should have hired.
In front of a civil trail jury, the NFL/teams attorneys can ask Flores why didn't he hire a diverse law firm to represent him in this case if diversity is such a priority for him.
Hiring a firm with NO diversity for a legal diversity claim? Big unforced error here.
Peter Harvey, Partner at Paterson Bellknap
Peter Harvey is a past Attorney General of New Jersey and a former federal prosecutor. As such, Mr. Harvey has been a central player in civil and criminal trials, government investigations and consumer fraud matters for many years. A gifted trial lawyer, his nearly 30 years of courtroom experience includes significant commercial matters, frequently within the hospitality, pharmaceutical and entertainment/sports industries.
Mr. Harvey was nominated to serve as independent monitor for the Newark Police Department, responsible for overseeing the NPD's compliance with a Consent Decree issued by the U.S. Department of Justice. He also currently represents corporations and individuals in business disputes throughout the nation. He has tried several major civil and criminal jury and non-jury cases in federal and state courts. He also conducts internal investigations for senior executives seeking to learn facts about employee misconduct or inappropriate business practices. Mr. Harvey also assists clients in navigating Grand Jury Subpoenas and government Civil Investigative Demands. He works with clients to develop strategies to achieve the client’s desired result, whether through trial, court decision or settlement.
Eric Holder, Jr., Senior Counsel @ Covington
Eric Holder advises clients on complex investigations and litigation matters, including those that are international in scope and involve significant regulatory enforcement issues and substantial reputational concerns. Eric, who was a partner at Covington from 2001 to 2009, rejoined the firm after serving for six years as the 82nd Attorney General of the United States.
Before his service as Attorney General, Eric maintained a wide-ranging investigations and litigation practice at Covington. Among numerous significant engagements, he led the firm’s representation of a major multi-national agricultural company in related civil, criminal, and investigative matters; acted as counsel to a special investigative committee of the board of directors of a Fortune 50 technology company; successfully tried a complex discrimination lawsuit on behalf of a leading financial services company; and represented several life sciences companies in litigation and investigations.
Billy Martin, Partner @ Barnes & Thornburg
William R. (Billy) Martin is a partner in the Washington, D.C., office of Barnes & Thornburg. As one of the top trial attorneys in the U.S., Billy represents corporations and leading individuals in politics, sports and entertainment, and he has tried more than 150 jury trials across the country. He is a member of the firm's Litigation Department and the White Collar Practice Group.
Not only are the optics not good, they absolutely can impact his case.
Counsel for the teams and the NFL will seek to impeach the credibility oF Flores' claim against them.
There are top Black litigators at so-called "white-shoe" law firms that he should have hired.
In front of a civil trail jury, the NFL/teams attorneys can ask Flores why didn't he hire a diverse law firm to represent him in this case if diversity is such a priority for him.
Hiring a firm with NO diversity for a legal diversity claim? Big unforced error here.
Peter Harvey, Partner at Paterson Bellknap
Peter Harvey is a past Attorney General of New Jersey and a former federal prosecutor. As such, Mr. Harvey has been a central player in civil and criminal trials, government investigations and consumer fraud matters for many years. A gifted trial lawyer, his nearly 30 years of courtroom experience includes significant commercial matters, frequently within the hospitality, pharmaceutical and entertainment/sports industries.
Mr. Harvey was nominated to serve as independent monitor for the Newark Police Department, responsible for overseeing the NPD's compliance with a Consent Decree issued by the U.S. Department of Justice. He also currently represents corporations and individuals in business disputes throughout the nation. He has tried several major civil and criminal jury and non-jury cases in federal and state courts. He also conducts internal investigations for senior executives seeking to learn facts about employee misconduct or inappropriate business practices. Mr. Harvey also assists clients in navigating Grand Jury Subpoenas and government Civil Investigative Demands. He works with clients to develop strategies to achieve the client’s desired result, whether through trial, court decision or settlement.
Eric Holder, Jr., Senior Counsel @ Covington
Eric Holder advises clients on complex investigations and litigation matters, including those that are international in scope and involve significant regulatory enforcement issues and substantial reputational concerns. Eric, who was a partner at Covington from 2001 to 2009, rejoined the firm after serving for six years as the 82nd Attorney General of the United States.
Before his service as Attorney General, Eric maintained a wide-ranging investigations and litigation practice at Covington. Among numerous significant engagements, he led the firm’s representation of a major multi-national agricultural company in related civil, criminal, and investigative matters; acted as counsel to a special investigative committee of the board of directors of a Fortune 50 technology company; successfully tried a complex discrimination lawsuit on behalf of a leading financial services company; and represented several life sciences companies in litigation and investigations.
Billy Martin, Partner @ Barnes & Thornburg
William R. (Billy) Martin is a partner in the Washington, D.C., office of Barnes & Thornburg. As one of the top trial attorneys in the U.S., Billy represents corporations and leading individuals in politics, sports and entertainment, and he has tried more than 150 jury trials across the country. He is a member of the firm's Litigation Department and the White Collar Practice Group.
I'm shocked to hear you say that.
Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
Not only are the optics not good, they absolutely can impact his case.
Counsel for the teams and the NFL will seek to impeach the credibility oF Flores' claim against them.
There are top Black litigators at so-called "white-shoe" law firms that he should have hired.
In front of a civil trail jury, the NFL/teams attorneys can ask Flores why didn't he hire a diverse law firm to represent him in this case if diversity is such a priority for him.
Hiring a firm with NO diversity for a legal diversity claim? Big unforced error here.
Peter Harvey, Partner at Paterson Bellknap
Peter Harvey is a past Attorney General of New Jersey and a former federal prosecutor. As such, Mr. Harvey has been a central player in civil and criminal trials, government investigations and consumer fraud matters for many years. A gifted trial lawyer, his nearly 30 years of courtroom experience includes significant commercial matters, frequently within the hospitality, pharmaceutical and entertainment/sports industries.
Mr. Harvey was nominated to serve as independent monitor for the Newark Police Department, responsible for overseeing the NPD's compliance with a Consent Decree issued by the U.S. Department of Justice. He also currently represents corporations and individuals in business disputes throughout the nation. He has tried several major civil and criminal jury and non-jury cases in federal and state courts. He also conducts internal investigations for senior executives seeking to learn facts about employee misconduct or inappropriate business practices. Mr. Harvey also assists clients in navigating Grand Jury Subpoenas and government Civil Investigative Demands. He works with clients to develop strategies to achieve the client’s desired result, whether through trial, court decision or settlement.
Eric Holder, Jr., Senior Counsel @ Covington
Eric Holder advises clients on complex investigations and litigation matters, including those that are international in scope and involve significant regulatory enforcement issues and substantial reputational concerns. Eric, who was a partner at Covington from 2001 to 2009, rejoined the firm after serving for six years as the 82nd Attorney General of the United States.
Before his service as Attorney General, Eric maintained a wide-ranging investigations and litigation practice at Covington. Among numerous significant engagements, he led the firm’s representation of a major multi-national agricultural company in related civil, criminal, and investigative matters; acted as counsel to a special investigative committee of the board of directors of a Fortune 50 technology company; successfully tried a complex discrimination lawsuit on behalf of a leading financial services company; and represented several life sciences companies in litigation and investigations.
Billy Martin, Partner @ Barnes & Thornburg
William R. (Billy) Martin is a partner in the Washington, D.C., office of Barnes & Thornburg. As one of the top trial attorneys in the U.S., Billy represents corporations and leading individuals in politics, sports and entertainment, and he has tried more than 150 jury trials across the country. He is a member of the firm's Litigation Department and the White Collar Practice Group.
Do these firms only have one black partner? What's the diversity?
If it's only one, or a few, you're smoking if you don't think people would use the SAME deflecting tactics
"You're firm has about the same percentage of black partners as the NFL has head coaches,
why you mad?
"
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
Do these firms only have one black partner? What's the diversity?
If it's only one, or a few, you're smoking if you don't think people would use the SAME deflecting tactics
"You're firm has about the same percentage of black partners as the NFL has head coaches,
So, the firm with one or two Black partners would be viewed the same as Flores's all-white firm in front of a civil jury judging a diversity matter?
Especially if the Black partner is arguing the case in the courtroom on behalf of the defendants? On what planet would that not be an advantage for the defendants in a case like this?
Even the NFL is not that stupid about these optics, which is why they retain Ted Wells as their go-to litigator. It will be interesting to see if either they or one of the franchises brings him in, or if he chooses to accept this matter.
Theodore V. Wells Jr.
Partner
Paul Weiss
A partner and co-chair of the Litigation Department, Ted Wells has extensive experience in white-collar defense and complex civil and corporate litigation, including SEC investigations, healthcare fraud, FCPA, AML and OFAC investigations, high-profile environmental matters and complex class action litigation. For more than three decades, prominent business figures and politicians, and leading companies in a range of industries have entrusted their gravest legal challenges to him. In particular, Ted is among the nation’s best-regarded trial lawyers, having tried numerous multibillion-dollar cases before judges and juries.
The National Law Journal named Ted one of “The Decade’s Most Influential Lawyers” in 2010 and over the years has repeatedly recognized him as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America, including naming him the “Lawyer of the Year” in 2006. Ted has also been recognized as one of the outstanding jury trial lawyers in the United States by numerous publications, including Chambers USA, which has noted that Ted “is considered by many to be ‘the best trial lawyer in the country.’”
EXPERIENCE
Combining courtroom prowess, business acumen and regulatory expertise, Ted has helped clients achieve exceptional results in a variety of high-stakes matters. Significant representations include:
MEDIA, SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT
21st Century Fox in the Roger Ailes and Bill O’Reilly investigations;
a special committee of the National Basketball Players Association (NBPA) in internal and governmental investigations concerning the NBPA’s leadership and business practices, including the conduct of the NBPA’s former executive director, Billy Hunter;
the National Football League in several matters, including:
an investigation concerning workplace conduct at the Miami Dolphins following the departure of offensive lineman Jonathan Martin;
an investigation into alleged tampering of game-day footballs during the 2015 AFC Championship game;
the defense and settlement of hundreds of lawsuits filed by thousands of former NFL players seeking to hold the league liable for allegedly concealing the risks associated with concussions sustained while the players played professional football; and
the special committee of the board of trustees of Syracuse University in a review of the university’s prior response, in 2005, to a report that a former assistant coach of the men’s basketball team had sexually abused the complainant. The special committee’s report of the review was provided to the university’s board of trustees, the university administration and the public.
Theodore V. Wells Jr., Partner
Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
Viewed the same by who? Public opinion? Yes, the same kind of people who use one kind of issue to deflect will use ANY kind they can.
get these nets
Veteran
Both are good points. I think there's a common answer for them.
Family and group owners of sports franchises are among the most wealthy Americans. Many of them own & control other businesses. The likelihood of any of the Giants, Dolphins, Broncos owners (or the league itself) having been represented by the big name firms recently or currently is high.
I'm no attorney, but it seems that there would be conflict of interest issues.
I'm interested in seeing how his choice of law firm plays out in this case and in the court of public opinion.
