BREAKING: Roe v Wade has been overturned by the Supreme Court #BothSides

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African American physicians, biologists, and social scientists used the language of eugenics and reproductive control to frame their scholarship on racial improvement. Famous scholar and activist W.E.B DuBois borrowed eugenic language in his 1903 essay on the Talented Tenth, in which he stated “The Negro race, like all other races, is going to be saved by exceptional men.” DuBois was also a strong proponent of birth control for African American women. In an article for the June 1932 issue of Margaret Sanger’s Birth Control Review entitled “A Negro Number,” DuBois argued that birth control for poor African Americans was necessary for the race and that people “must learn that among human races and groups, as among vegetables, quality and not mere quantity really counts.”

The Black Politics of Eugenics



This response sounds like after being provided new revealing information that challenges your own views you refuse to change your perception. You may think all white people are guilty until proven innocent, but most likely you just don't want to accept that your previous thoughts on Sanger and Birth Control may be wrong.

All I can do is bring you horses to the water :manny:

So even if the origin of abortion had a "racist" goal

How does that follow that somehow the means is invalid ?

Highways were built to reinforce and separate black communities from white ones ...

That doesn't mean highways are a "bad" concept
 

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I don't care about this abortion shyt but my thing is why do we keep banning these guys only to let them back in? Let them focus on running their call center scams. They have a whole village to support and we're only taking away from that.
He gets paid by the post.

Banning him takes away rupees from his pocket :sadcam:
 

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African American physicians, biologists, and social scientists used the language of eugenics and reproductive control to frame their scholarship on racial improvement. Famous scholar and activist W.E.B DuBois borrowed eugenic language in his 1903 essay on the Talented Tenth, in which he stated “The Negro race, like all other races, is going to be saved by exceptional men.” DuBois was also a strong proponent of birth control for African American women. In an article for the June 1932 issue of Margaret Sanger’s Birth Control Review entitled “A Negro Number,” DuBois argued that birth control for poor African Americans was necessary for the race and that people “must learn that among human races and groups, as among vegetables, quality and not mere quantity really counts.”

The Black Politics of Eugenics



This response sounds like after being provided new revealing information that challenges your own views you refuse to change your perception. You may think all white people are guilty until proven innocent, but most likely you just don't want to accept that your previous thoughts on Sanger and Birth Control may be wrong.

All I can do is bring you horses to the water :manny:
yeah WEB would say your child is worthless if he doesnt have knowledge/skill he deems valuable

this is what faithless understanding looks like, you're only as good to me as your value :mjcry:
 

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There’s a straight line from US racial segregation to the anti-abortion movement | Randall Balmer

There’s a straight line from US racial segregation to the anti-abortion movement | Randall Balmer
The supreme court’s refusal to block Texas’s restrictive new abortion law suggests that the end to country-wide legal abortion might be at hand. For white evangelicals, the rank and file of the anti-abortion movement who have worked tirelessly to overturn the 1973 Roe v Wade decision, this represents the culmination of efforts that date back to – well, about 1980.

Although leaders of the religious right would have us believe that the Roe decision was the catalyst for their political mobilization in the 1970s, that claim does not withstand historical scrutiny. What prompted evangelical interest in politics, in fact, was a defense of racial segregation.


Evangelicals considered abortion a “Catholic issue” through most of the 1970s, and there is little in the history of evangelicalism to suggest that abortion would become a point of interest. Even James Dobson, who later became an implacable foe of abortion, acknowledged after the Roe decision that the Bible was silent on the matter and that it was plausible for an evangelical to hold that “a developing embryo or fetus was not regarded as a full human being”.

I first began researching the origins of the religious right after a meeting at a Washington hotel conference room in November 1990. The gathering marked the ten-year anniversary of Ronald Reagan’s election to the presidency and, for reasons that are still not entirely clear to me, I was invited to this closed-door celebration. There I encountered a veritable who’s-who of the religious right, including (among others), Ralph Reed of Christian Coalition; Donald Wildmon from the American Family Association; Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention; Ed Dobson, one of Jerry Falwell’s acolytes at Moral Majority; Richard Viguerie, the conservative direct-mail mogul; and Paul Weyrich, cofounder of the Heritage Foundation and architect of the religious right.

In the course of the first session, Weyrich tried to make a point to his religious right brethren (no women attended the conference, as I recall). Remember, he said animatedly, that the religious right did not come together in response to the Roe decision. No, Weyrich insisted, what got the movement going as a political movement was the attempt on the part of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to rescind the tax-exempt status of Bob Jones University because of its racially discriminatory policies, including a ban on interracial dating that the university maintained until 2000.

During a break following that session, I approached Weyrich to ensure that I had heard him correctly. He was emphatic that abortion had nothing whatsoever to do with the genesis of the religious right. He added that he’d been trying since the Goldwater campaign in 1964 to interest evangelicals in politics. Nothing caught their attention, he insisted – school prayer, pornography, equal rights for women, abortion – until the IRS began to challenge the tax exemption of Bob Jones University and other whites-only segregation academies.

Indeed, in 1971 the Southern Baptist Convention had passed a resolution calling to legalize abortion. When the Roe decision was handed down, some evangelicals applauded the ruling as marking an appropriate distinction between personal morality and public policy. Although he later – 14 years later – claimed that opposition to abortion was the catalyst for his political activism, Jerry Falwell did not preach his first anti-abortion sermon until February 1978, more than five years after Roe.

Falwell, who had founded his own segregation academy in 1967, was eager to join forces with Weyrich and others to mount a defense against the IRS and its attempts to enforce the Brown v Board of Education decision of 1954 and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. “In some states,” Falwell famously groused, “it’s easier to open a massage parlor than a Christian school.”

So how did evangelicals become interested in abortion? As nearly as I can tell from my conversation with Weyrich, during a conference call with Falwell and other evangelicals strategizing about how to retain their tax exemptions, someone suggested that they might have the makings of a political movement and wondered what other issues would work for them. Several suggestions followed, and then a voice on the line said, “How about abortion?”

Still, it took some time for opposition to abortion to take hold among evangelicals. According to Frank Schaeffer – who produced a series of anti-abortion films called Whatever Happened to the Human Race?, featuring his father, Francis Schaeffer, and C Everett Koop, who later became Ronald Reagan’s surgeon general – the evangelical response was at best tepid when the films appeared early in 1979.

And when Reagan addressed 20,000 cheering evangelicals in August 1980, he mentioned his support for creationism and criticized the IRS for its supposed vendetta against evangelical schools. He said nothing whatsoever about abortion. Only in the early 1980s did opposition to abortion finally become an evangelical battle cry.

The beauty of the religious right’s embrace of abortion as a political issue is that it allowed leaders to camouflage the real origins of their movement: the defense of racial segregation in evangelical institutions.

  • Randall Balmer, a professor at Dartmouth College, is the author of more than a dozen books, including Bad Faith: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right
 

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For Pennsylvania folks (exerpt from ĹebŤowñ):

Under Pennsylvania state law, abortion is legal up to 24 weeks into a pregnancy, with later exceptions made for extraordinary circumstances like the health of the person giving birth.

Still, the law already includes significant restrictions, which would likely expand should a Republican succeed Wolf as governor.

At least four of the nine GOP candidates for governor — state Sen. Doug Mastriano (R., Franklin), former Delaware County Council Member Dave White, Poconos surgeon Nche Zama, and Montgomery County Commissioner Joe Gale — have all said they support abortion bans without exceptions for rape, incest, or the life of the parent.

At a debate in late April, Mastriano, who has consistently appeared at or near the top of polls, called legal abortion “a national catastrophe,” before promising to “move with alacrity” on a six-week abortion ban.

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I know many people don't care about Roe v Wade or the abortion laws, but this shyt is gonna be a mess.

This is gonna put a battery in the GOP back to declare anything and everything in the terms of States Rights.

At some point they're gonna come after something you do care about.



**From Zama's biography:

Dr. Zama was the second of six children, raised in grass huts by illiterate but hardworking parents who instilled within him the values of discipline, pragmatism, and community. When he witnessed the preventable and horrific death of his mother during childbirth due to the lack of access to a doctor and proper medical care, his life’s purpose shifted forever. His father sold his property, so young Zama could travel to America for a better education.
 
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So even if the origin of abortion had a "racist" goal

How does that follow that somehow the means is invalid ?

Highways were built to reinforce and separate black communities from white ones ...

That doesn't mean highways are a "bad" concept

Highways weren't built for those reasons. What are you talking about? The purpose was to filter white people further into the suburbs from the central business districts. They were built through minority/black areas because those were the areas that were the easiest to take politically through eminent domain. Poor white areas were carved up as well to a lesser degree. The separation of some black and white neighborhoods was a happy accident that was pretty much invalidated by white flight and integration. Those old freeways and highways mostly separate one poor area from another now.
 

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I find it funny that the slippery slope argument is a logical fallacy until it isn't.

"They're legalizing gay marriage, trannies are becoming normalized. What next pedos and beastiality?! :damn:"

"SLIPPERY SLOPE SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!!! :umad:"

"The court is poised to overturn Roe vs. Wade. The only logical conclusion is that chattel slavery will be back within ten years. :yeshrug: #BothSides"

"Bro, that makes perfect sense. I don't understand how people don't see this. My PAWG and I were just talking about how our bedroom life will soon be real life because of these cac justices :pacspit:."
 

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African American physicians, biologists, and social scientists used the language of eugenics and reproductive control to frame their scholarship on racial improvement. Famous scholar and activist W.E.B DuBois borrowed eugenic language in his 1903 essay on the Talented Tenth, in which he stated “The Negro race, like all other races, is going to be saved by exceptional men.” DuBois was also a strong proponent of birth control for African American women. In an article for the June 1932 issue of Margaret Sanger’s Birth Control Review entitled “A Negro Number,” DuBois argued that birth control for poor African Americans was necessary for the race and that people “must learn that among human races and groups, as among vegetables, quality and not mere quantity really counts.”

The Black Politics of Eugenics



This response sounds like after being provided new revealing information that challenges your own views you refuse to change your perception. You may think all white people are guilty until proven innocent, but most likely you just don't want to accept that your previous thoughts on Sanger and Birth Control may be wrong.

All I can do is bring you horses to the water :manny:
No that evidence isn’t enough to change my view point of who she was or wasn’t, and that article doesn’t seem widely black but some educated black people who think sterilization of the “unfit” (which still is crazy that they couldn’t see what unfit really means) is a good idea to improve the “race”
 

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One last point here: Roe vs. Wade has been under threat since it was made "settled law." It's been used as nothing more than campaign and fundraising fodder for almost 50 years. Once the elections are settled it gets stuffed back into the closet. Well, unfortunately what's happened here is that the Republicans seem to have made the first move beyond sloganeering and base rallying regarding abortion. It's not unexpected though and still the Dems were caught off guard.

So let me ask you this; if Roe v. Wade is the canary in the coal mine so to speak why weren't we trying to get the canary out of there and shut down the coal mine in the first place?

People will continuously say shyt like the GOP is finished, they are stupid, they can't achieve their agenda, they don't have enough support etc etc yet they continuously outmaneuver Dems on issues where it would seem the Dems have overwhelming support for their side of the argument. How does this continue to happen? How do you ring the alarm that Roe v. Wade is under threat for 50 years and do nothing to stop the circumstances coming together to overturn it?
 

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African American physicians, biologists, and social scientists used the language of eugenics and reproductive control to frame their scholarship on racial improvement. Famous scholar and activist W.E.B DuBois borrowed eugenic language in his 1903 essay on the Talented Tenth, in which he stated “The Negro race, like all other races, is going to be saved by exceptional men.” DuBois was also a strong proponent of birth control for African American women. In an article for the June 1932 issue of Margaret Sanger’s Birth Control Review entitled “A Negro Number,” DuBois argued that birth control for poor African Americans was necessary for the race and that people “must learn that among human races and groups, as among vegetables, quality and not mere quantity really counts.”

The Black Politics of Eugenics



This response sounds like after being provided new revealing information that challenges your own views you refuse to change your perception. You may think all white people are guilty until proven innocent, but most likely you just don't want to accept that your previous thoughts on Sanger and Birth Control may be wrong.

All I can do is bring you horses to the water :manny:
We in different times so I understand that but still ain’t no way somebody is coming to the community to talk people into the idea of sterilizing people like it’s helping us especially for people who lived in time periods when they was lyching us and some of them were alive during slavery, that will forever be suspect and I need clear evidence not word of mouth from respected black people not saying Dubois and Mlk are bad people but this whole eugenics thing sounds like bullshyt to me
 

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This is so beautiful :banderas:
Serpentcrats are now on the clock:smugbiden:
Don’t bite the apple Eve :scusthov:
 

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This is Obamas fault. The piece of shyt laid down on a fukking Supreme Court pick. We’re gonna be fukked for thirty more years.
Obama’s fault that racist cac ruth bytch didn’t want to step down when he asked her knowing the implications if she died on a republican’s President watch?
What was he supposed to do? Get her wacked? :gucci:
 
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