BREAKING: California Democrats purposely kill Reparations bills SB1331 and SB1403

[Professor Emeritus]

Democrats have no reason to give black people reparations when we vote 90%+ for their candidates anyway…why piss off other demographics to help a group that’s already locked in.

That talking point makes no sense when only half of eligible Black voters vote. Of course politicians would like to get the other half of the Black population. But there hasn't been any indication that the other half will come on board regardless of the platform.


The real issue is:

1) Black folk are way too small a % of the voting electorate to move the needle by themselves, it needs to be an issue that attracts Black voters AND other demographics
2) Black voters have not yet given any real-world indication that reparations will be a deciding factor in a vote



Look at the pro-reparations presidential candidates in the 2020 primary. Look at the pro-reparations Senate/Governor/House candidates in 2020 and 2022. Did any of them get anywhere with those stances? So why would mainstream candidates do it?



People who vote move the needle. People who don't vote never move the needle. No politician has ever chosen non-voters over actual voters when pandering.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Reparations is losing politics with Latinos outnumbering us almost everywhere.

There was a time in the 90's that this could have passed nationwide, between Latinos and Asians, we are losing the vote share.

This makes no sense because Black folk still have roughly the same % of the electorate that they've always had. The Asian and Latino voters are replacing WHITE voters, and Asians/Latinos are more likely to support reparations than White people are.....so increasing Asian/Latino population should mean more likelihood of reparations passing, not less.


According to this poll, 77% of Black voters, 39% of Latino voters, 33% of Asian voters, and 18% of White voters support reparations for Black descendants of slavery. Democrats are split 49-48 in their support of reparations, while Republicans oppose it 91 to 8. Younger voters are almost split on reparations, while older voters are nearly 90% against it.

Black and White Americans are far apart in their views of reparations for slavery

Overall, 30% of U.S. adults say descendants of people enslaved in the U.S. should be repaid in some way. 68% say they should not be repaid.

www.pewresearch.org

Reparations won't have a real chance of passing until Black support is over 90%, Latino/Asian support is at least 50%, and White support gets up to at least 40% or so. Or if reparations support among Democracts moves to 70+% and Democrats somehow gain huge or extremely resolute majorities in both houses.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

The real issue is:

1) Black folk are way too small a % of the voting electorate to move the needle by themselves, it needs to be an issue that attracts Black voters AND other demographics

1.If black support of democratic candidates dropped from 93% to 60% like Hispanics and Asians it wouldn’t move the needle ? It would cause a full on crisis in the party .

2.If black people are too small of a block to move the needle why all the finger wagging and talking down on those who say they’re not voting or support another candidate.the way those folks are handled does not correlate with the “black people cant move the needle” narrative.

3. The Reparation candidates don’t gain support because they’re either 3rd party or get zero support from the DNC . For those races if you’re not super engaged you’re voting for whoever is blue and is on TV .

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Sadly not surprising. Shills can't spin this on Republicans so you won't see them here.

#BOTHSIDES

Y'all think we don't agree that ADOS deserve reparations.

I am ADOS on both sides and I understand how CENTURIES of racism has harmed our community. I believe that in an absolutely just world, we should be compensated.

The problem is, the bill that's due is larger than any city, state, or even the whole nation can actually pay it.

Just multiply the number of ADOS by a million and you'll see the figure. It's greater than the entire city, state, or nation annual budget.

Therefore, we'd have to fight a war to get it.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

1.If black support of democratic candidates dropped from 93% to 60% like Hispanics and Asians it wouldn’t move the needle ? It would cause a full crisis in the party .

If Black support moved from Democrats to Republicans, it would cause a crisis in the party alright.....it would make the Democrats lurch FAR to the right and try to appeal more to center-right White people to make up the votes they just lost.

Why the fukk would Democrats go further left if Black people moved towards Republicans? Black voters would be telling them to do the opposite.

2.If black people are too small of a block to move the needle why all the finger wagging and talking down on those who say they’re not voting or support another candidate.the way those folks are handled does not correlate with the “black people cant move the needle” narrative.

Because Black folk can impact an election just as much as anyone else can, but Black folk numbers are too small to do anything alone. 12% of the electorate can move the needle in concert with other voters, not in opposition to them.

3. The Reparation candidates don’t gain support because they’re either 3rd party or get zero support from the DNC . For those races if you’re not super engaged you’re voting for whoever is blue and is on TV .

Why should all these supposedly pro-Reparations voters need "support from the DNC" to vote for a pro-Reparations candidate?


Marianne Williamson was the only Democrat in the primaries to say "Give reparations now, at least $200-500 billion, don't wait for a study". Yet she only polled at 1% and that was mostly White people. Why didn't the "Reparations or no vote!" online mob get behind her at least as a test case to prove they meant what they said?

Cory Booker introduced legislation in the Senate to study reparations. He got little to no support in the primaries, not even from Black folk. Kamala, Sanders, and Warren all co-sponsored the bill. All of them got some Black support, but nothing strong and none of it came from the "#bothsides" posters. Instead, when the primaries came to South Carolina with Bernie having all the momentum and Black folk had the opportunity to pick the candidate, they rolled with....Joe Biden, who has never supported reparations at all.

Gary Chambers ran for Senate in Louisiana on a pro-reparations platform. Got the Democratic nomination. Only pulled 18% in the general election in a state that's 33% Black.

There's also that Marcel guy who speaks at the Tariq events but gets completely blown out in every election.



Why would Democrats cater to the #bothsides voters who claim they're waiting for "reparations or else" when those voters have never shown they'll vote for anyone in any election?

 

[Big Boda]

 

[timeless]

A lot of people don't want us to have it, don't think we're going to get it, don't believe we deserve it. Some "black" people think that way too.

I'm just really glad that black folks in California came so far and are refusing to give up. I hope that spirit and drive never dies.

 

[RAX 010]

Damn shame
Still not gonna stop our dillusional people from voting these Democrats into office while not giving us a god damn thing in return

 

[Mowgli]

Liberal friends.

 

[Blessings]

mhmmmm

 

[Da Bull Ace]

Damn shame
Still not gonna stop our dillusional people from voting these Democrats into office while not giving us a god damn thing in return

So who should we vote for

 

[Bunchy Carter]

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

@Professor Emeritus

If Black support moved from Democrats to Republicans, it would cause a crisis in the party alright.....it would make the Democrats lurch FAR to the right and try to appeal more to center-right White people to make up the votes they just lost
Why the fukk would Democrats go further left if Black people moved towards Republicans? Black voters would be telling them to do the opposite.

I didn’t say what the party would do in response. I took issue with the black people cant move the needle comment you just made. You’re basically saying black people can move the needle with this new post .

Because Black folk can impact an election just as much as anyone else can, but Black folk numbers are too small to do anything alone. 12% of the electorate can move the needle in concert with other voters, not in opposition to them.

If Black support of the Democratic Party dropped to 70% and everything else remained the same Donald Trump is the next president. I’m not sure why you’re talking about not being able to do anything by ourselves when there isn’t a voting issue where any group is alone on..including reparations …That’s a meaningless argument

Marianne Williamson was the only Democrat in the primaries to say "Give reparations now, at least $200-500 billion, don't wait for a study". Yet she only polled at 1% and that was mostly White people. Why didn't the "Reparations or no vote!" online mob get behind her at least as a test case to prove they meant what they said?

Black people are being called c00ns right now for supporting Cornel West. I’ll type it again…Black people are being called c00ns for supporting a black man. Black people were being called fools for voting for Bernie over Hillary and Joe .. and you don’t understand how Marianne Williamson didn’t get widely supported? Are you being serious or disingenuous right now ? I’m not one of those FBAADOS Tariq nikkas you’ll have to ask them ..but it’s easy to see

Cory Booker introduced legislation in the Senate to study reparations. He got little to no support in the primaries, not even from Black folk. Kamala, Sanders, and Warren all co-sponsored the bill. All of them got some Black support, but nothing strong and none of it came from the "#bothsides" posters. Instead, when the primaries came to South Carolina with Bernie having all the momentum and Black folk had the opportunity to pick the candidate, they rolled with....Joe Biden, who has never supported reparations at all.

Who is one of the biggest black voices in the history of South Carolina politics and what did he do at that moment ?After that what did the money and media do to establish a certain narrative…Bringing up SC in 2020 is funny though because in that instance the black vote ……moved the needle and changed the course of history.

 

[UpNext]

Black people are being called c00ns right now for supporting Cornel West. I’ll type it again…Black people are being called c00ns for supporting a black man. Black people were being called fools for voting for Bernie over Hillary and Joe .. and you don’t understand how Marianne Williamson didn’t get widely supported? Are being serious or disingenuous right now ? I’m not one of those FBAADOS Tariq nikkas you’ll have to ask them ..but it’s easy to see

ADOS literally interviewed Marianne Williamson





Had her speak at the conference:




Note the date of that interview and date of the primary debate and you can literally even trace alot of those reparations talking points to ADOS.


Also those reparations talking point were her only talking points that received any positive acclaim:

How did Marianne Williamson get woke on reparations?

Williamson has been talking about reparations since 1997 and recently began discussions with American Descendants of Slavery.

www.inquirer.com

But folks like the above shill you're responding to were too busy trying to paint any grassroots pro reparations campaign as right wing to notice they were doing all the little "if they were serious" things they say to do. Most these folks wouldn't qualify for reparations and are straight up looking for any reason they can find to rubbish reparations talks anyway so fukkem.

 

[Fani Willis fan]

i see folks in here fell for the okie doke, once again

I don’t think black people who are bleed blue democrats even care about reparations like THAT tbh