If the DEA thing was a factor, he would've never let Walt in in the first place
If the DEA thing was a factor, he would've never let Walt in in the first place
I don't see how the cancer thing is a factor if it means dude will possibly die anyway
The cartel thing is definitely not a factor since Gus didn't fukk with them anyway. Oh wait, Gus took out the cartel so that he could kill Walt himself?
This was already answered
Breh, Gus didn't know about Hank being Walt's brother in law until he went and visited the DEA's office to see Mercker (sp?). Hank had a jar asking for donations with Walt's mug on that bytch.
Gus peeped it and slickly asked Hank if Walt was an agent..."Oh is this an agent of yours?" And Hank told him that it was his brother who's been diagnosed with cancer.
At that moment Gus was already thinking about plan B.
You don't think it was suspect for Gus to plan on having Walt work fo
r him for 3 months? When he killed his dealers that just escalated the process.
You're putting too much on the Gus Fring thing, and not enough on Walt's ego. That scene put on display that Mike understood what Walt was about more than anybody else. He knew that Gus didn't have to die.
And now that I think about it more....(read after the next quote)
I had to think about this more. Mike is actually completely right.....because Walt is actually the person who forced Gus' hand to bring Jesse in. Everyone knew that Jesse was gonna fukk shyt up because he was a junkie. Walt still made up a reason to get Jesse to cook with him, and kick Gale out.
I had actually forgotten about that piece of information. We all like to think it's always been Walt & Jesse, but the fact of the matter is...if Walt had played his position, everyone would be alive. Him and Gale would be cooking together, making good money, he would've had enough money to help Jesse deal with his addiction and the death of Combo...
Facts are...Walt's induction of Jesse and defiance of Gus was the pebble that got the boulder rolling. Exactly, what did Gus do to jeopardize his operation except allow Walt to be a part of it?
So Mike was right, and had Walt pegged to the very last breath. You guys think Walt helped Mike out in the end "just to help out a business partner?" No, watch it again....look at the stare he gives Mike & Jesse when they shake hands behind his back. The same nikka that didn't even want to acknowledge Heisenberg, was dapping up the sidekick....and it ate at his pride and ego. No, the only reason he did all those things was for Mike to kiss his rings. He wanted Mike to say his name (Say My Name being the title of the ep), and Mike was the only character who wouldn't play into Walt's game.
In the end, I don't think Mike much cared about "his downfall," because he predicted it anyway. He knew from the beginning that Walt was "a ticking time bomb" and that if he stayedclose he'd end up being caught in the explosion. He stayed anyway because he wanted to provide for his 9 guys and his granddaughter. You guys think his pride was his downfall, but in actuality...Mike was doomed as soon as he compromised his beliefs about Walt. That ticking time bomb just went boom on his ass just like he predicted all along
mike acted childish just like walt and didn't tell his partners how serious the dea were after him from jump .he also went out his way to beef with Walt well he got what he wanted
We don't know what would or could of happened but Gus went into business telling the cartel he give up Walt so he looks shady . Everything else could of been him trying to manipulate Walt but Walt isn't trusting JesseSo you're saying....Gus found out that Walt's brother was in the DEA...........and then offers him a deal for 3 months......to kill him?
You're gonna have to explain to me this overly complicated scheme that you think Gus had. Considering the only plausible reason to offer Walt that deal (and then kill him) would be to steal his formula. But Walt made sure Gus couldn't steal it....and Gus still allowed him to live. So.....?
My bad.
He vented and then got ventilated . Give mike some of the credit for his death the only reason he was even free was cause of Walt
What the hell do you mean it is better to die and keep your respect? I am thinking Mike wants to provide for his grand kid because clearly, his son is dead and the mother can't properly provide for the kid. That is the whole reason for him doing all that dirt, all he had to do was talk it out, he could gone on the run, provided console to the group for a fee, he went way out of his way to start trouble with Walt, being a bytch and alive to provide for my family, yeah i will take that any day than being dead and not being able to a damn thing. You hate Walt so much that you would provoke a man to kill you, a man you know is dangerous and smart, Walt held all the cards here, he gave Mike the info to run, he could have let get caught, he gave him the bag, he wanted the names of the other guys and out of loyalty to them, you going to betray your own familyI never said that wasn't the case. I said "let's not act like Walt did those things out of the goodness of his heart, or cause he's some nice guy." Walt only volunteered all that because Mike wasn't submitting to Walt's ego. He NEEDED to hear Mike say "thank you Walt, I respect you." You think that's a fair reason for Mike to die?
If so I won't argue with you. Yeah, if Mike had just stood there and been Walt's bytch (and let's be honest, that's what this was about), he would have lived to escape. But really, what kind of option is that? Be a bytch and live, or keep your respect and get murked out. You can compare that to Walt's ego to make Walt seem not so bad if you want. Mike's ego only affected himself....Walt's ego affects every life he touches
Any body in that position would have given up the 9 and lived to provide for his family.
So you're saying....Gus found out that Walt's brother was in the DEA...........and then offers him a deal for 3 months......to kill him?
You're gonna have to explain to me this overly complicated scheme that you think Gus had. Considering the only plausible reason to offer Walt that deal (and then kill him) would be to steal his formula. But Walt made sure Gus couldn't steal it....and Gus still allowed him to live. So.....?
Breh, Gus didn't know about Hank being Walt's brother in law until he went and visited the DEA's office to see Mercker (sp?). Hank had a jar asking for donations with Walt's mug on that bytch.
Gus peeped it and slickly asked Hank if Walt was an agent..."Oh is this an agent of yours?" And Hank told him that it was his brother who's been diagnosed with cancer.
At that moment Gus was already thinking about plan B.
You don't think it was suspect for Gus to plan on having Walt work for him for 3 months? When he killed his dealers that just escalated the process.
What I'm saying is this, Gus was always planning on replacing Walt. Whether it was by killing him, whether it was giving Tuco's twins the go ahead to kill him, or if it was him giving Walt to the cartel to be their cook.
