Breaking Bad doesn't deserve to sit at the table with The Sopranos and The Wire

[LandryFieldsDad]

breh..did you forget the serial killer storyline?

Notice I didn't say it was perfect.
Marlo Chris and Snoop
The story arcs of the students Dookie Michael ( i forget the other names)
The whole newspaper plot
Omar

outweighs the misstep of the horrible serial killer plot

 

[ECA]

Of all the shows listed..
The Wire is the only one that didn't get damn near terrible at the end.
In fact the last season/series finale of the Wire was fantastic.

Breaking Bad got progressively worse after Skylar found everything out.
Sopranos?
The Dream sequences?
Half of every episode is in therapy with Dr. Melfi
Putting Tony's son (wanna talk about horrible characters??) in therapy
Sopranos got damn near unwatchable

The Wire Season 5 is borderline unwatchable

 

[hex]

Of all the shows listed..
The Wire is the only one that didn't get damn near terrible at the end.
In fact the last season/series finale of the Wire was fantastic.

Breaking Bad got progressively worse after Skylar found everything out.
Sopranos?
The Dream sequences?
Half of every episode is in therapy with Dr. Melfi
Putting Tony's son (wanna talk about horrible characters??) in therapy
Sopranos got damn near unwatchable

Breh no offense but you're on some "Twilight Zone" shyt.

"BB" after season 3 (when Skyler found out) was extremely well received, including the finale.

"The Sopranos" final season slightly less so, and the finale was a mixed bag.

"The Wire" season 5 was so poorly received David Simon wrote a blog defending it:

http://davidsimon.com/the-wires-final-season-and-the-story-everyone-missed/

Keep in mind all 3 of these shows are in my top 5, but let's not rewrite history.

Fred.

 

[infamousred]

breaking bad is still one of the best shows that i've ever seen but the fact that it won emmy's and the wire didn't was a complete smack in the face and that's coming from someone who saw it from the premier episode.

 

[hex]

breaking bad is still one of the best shows that i've ever seen but the fact that it won emmy's and the wire didn't was a complete smack in the face and that's coming from someone who saw it from the premier episode.

There is a lot worse Emmy offenses than "BB" winning. They gave it to "Lost" when "The Wire" wasn't even nominated.

Fred.

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

Breh no offense but you're on some "Twilight Zone" shyt.

"BB" after season 3 (when Skyler found out) was extremely well received, including the finale.

"The Sopranos" final season slightly less so, and the finale was a mixed bag.

"The Wire" season 5 was so poorly received David Simon wrote a blog defending it:fo

http://davidsimon.com/the-wires-final-season-and-the-story-everyone-missed/

Keep in mind all 3 of these shows are in my top 5, but let's not rewrite history.

Fred.

im just offering my opinions.
how do you feel?
im gonna need to rewatch the wire. as i havent watched any episodes since they aired.
especially since people seem to hate season 5.

i know personally for me the sopranos took a nose dive. my friend and I had a bet one season each episode
how often carmela would mention that fukking "spec house" and like i said the dream sequences the therapy
anthony jr. damn near made that show unwatchable..

for me personally..breaking bad once walt came clean to skylar the show was really ehhh
the suspense to me was what made that show so amazing...can he keep this a secret from his wife?
can he keep hank in the dark?

like i said i need to revisit the wire..but i wasnt mad at the season finale how everything wrapped up

 

[infamousred]

There is a lot worse Emmy offenses than "BB" winning. They gave it to "Lost" when "The Wire" wasn't even nominated.

Fred.

i'm just failing to understand how 1 show wins a bunch emmy's over one that wins none when they were so similiar in their drugs/killing/social aspects? i remember reading how they said the voters couldn't relate to the wire...like they were out there cooking up meth and dropping bodies like walter white was?

 

[hex]

im just offering my opinions.
how do you feel?
im gonna need to rewatch the wire. as i havent watched any episodes since they aired.
especially since people seem to hate season 5.

i know personally for me the sopranos took a nose dive. my friend and I had a bet one season each episode
how often carmela would mention that fukking "spec house" and like i said the dream sequences the therapy
anthony jr. damn near made that show unwatchable..

for me personally..breaking bad once walt came clean to skylar the show was really ehhh
the suspense to me was what made that show so amazing...can he keep this a secret from his wife?
can he keep hank in the dark?

like i said i need to revisit the wire..but i wasnt mad at the season finale how everything wrapped up

Your opinion is your opinion breh.

I didn't mean to come at you sideways.

I will say this though, the point of "Breaking Bad" wasn't him keeping it a secret, on some "Dexter" shyt. The point was a good man turning evil, and the collateral damage it caused. If you'll indulge me a second, this is from a convo I had a while ago:

Very good posts, brehs. I'm gonna address them at the same time. Maybe it'll clarify why "BB" is written the way it is....maybe it won't.

Are you familiar with the term "clockwork universe"? It basically means, no matter how 3 dimensional or deep a character seems, ultimately they're only a function of the plot. Or more specifically, any side character or sub plot is only important in direct relation to the actions the protagonist takes.

Most fiction, movies, TV, novels, whatever, try to hide this, for obvious reasons. "BB" went in the extreme opposite direction, and embraced it completely.

You say there's no consequences for Walt's actions. I disagree 100%. There was severe consequences, just not for Walt. Which is probably to read, but let me explain.

By the end of "BB" 270 people had died, most of them directly (or indirectly) due to the plot armor Walt has. So let's say they kill Walt in season 1. Or season 2. Or season 3. The shorter Walt's life, the more people survive.

So the point wasn't, Walt is in danger. The point literally was, Walt IS the danger. It wasn't just a cool line.

The writers even not-so-subtly pointed this out, via Jesse in the season 5B episode "Rabid Dog":

Jesse, to Hank and Gomez: "Listen, you two guys....are just guys. Mr. White, he's the devil. You know, he is....he is smarter than you, he is luckier than you. Whatever you think is supposed to happen, I'm telling you the exact reverse opposite of that is gonna happen".

He's flat out telling them "Walt is the protagonist, you are side characters". They smugly assure him they have it under control. Within two episodes of that exchange they're both dead, and Jesse is being tortured. They didn't know their place in the clockwork universe.

Even the most ridiculous, cartoonish "outs" Walt was given, like the giant magnet, had horrific consequences for literally everyone but Walt. It directly lead to the deaths of Mike, his 11 guys, Peter Schuler, Drew Sharp...and set in motion the rest of season 5B, too.

So yeah, Walt was able to escape death and consequences....at the expense of everyone around him. That's the point of the show. That's why his admission "I did it for me" was so powerful in the finale.

Fred.

 

[Gains]

after season 3 The Wire was just fan service

Breaking Bad has that comedic element that I like about the show

 

[Ricky Church]

dapped/ 5*'s

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

Your opinion is your opinion breh.

I didn't mean to come at you sideways.

I will say this though, the point of "Breaking Bad" wasn't him keeping it a secret, on some "Dexter" shyt. The point was a good man turning evil, and the collateral damage it caused. If you'll indulge me a second, this is from a convo I had a while ago:



Fred.

No. Never that. I enjoy debating.

Re: bb
I truly get that. I do.
I know he was in it to pay for his medical bills. And then it became something else.
Walt's character arc/progression/evolution was fascinating. My stance is that it didn't necessarily make for better TV. I feel like the storylines when the show began up until skylar finding everything out was way more entertaining

Basically what I'm saying is that I think the wire was the most consistent. We can debate whether bb had a falloff towards the end but I think we know sopranos went to shyt

 

[Osmosis]

I'd argue Boardwalk as well.

Stopped reading. Boardwalk is a shytty show and only an idiot would compare it to the likes of Breaking Bad, The Wire and Sopranos.

 

[Ben.]

Your opinion is your opinion breh.

I didn't mean to come at you sideways.

I will say this though, the point of "Breaking Bad" wasn't him keeping it a secret, on some "Dexter" shyt. The point was a good man turning evil, and the collateral damage it caused. If you'll indulge me a second, this is from a convo I had a while ago:



Fred.

Hex still out here sonning these nikkas , I miss them Breaking Bad sundays on the coli

 

[Leonard Washington]

I'm on S4 of the shield too. You like it? Honestly its a chore for me to watch might throw in the bushes. Not enjoying it that much. This show does a terrible job of sucking you in

No dont throw it in the bushes just yet, if you feel that way after season 5 then

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

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yup