Bounced back from a car crash, hopefully the fight isn't a trainwreck: Thurman/Porter June 25 thread

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

So this fight is clearly divided ..yes very close. But keith may have nicked it man..

 

[#SOG_soldier]

From what im seeing from Thurman is in exchanges he throws way too wide, im afraid to say but I think Garcia beats him .... but that's if he gets caught up in exchanges.

Breh this nikka RAN INTO A COUNTER RIGHT HAND from fukking slideshow shawn porter.






And they think this nikka will make easy work of one of the best counter punchers in the game.

 

[GzUp]

Explain the scenario please how you imagine Danny would beat Thurman

Styllistycally Thurman is all wrong to Garcia

Danny can jab and has good body punches, he's very good in exchanges and is accurate... but Thurman can beat him, he just has to avoid exchanges and move around and land big punches which I feel that he can do.

 

[Skip b]

Explain the scenario please how you imagine Danny would beat Thurman

Styllistycally Thurman is all wrong to Garcia

Thurman is made for swift, inconsistant jab, hands by his waist, no clinch game, wild shyt, no footwork although he use his feet as a defense, bleeder and sweller.. He's tailor made for a elite level counter/boxer puncher like swift who moves his head and return fire in the midst of fire and based off styles with the small ww with a average punch like Thurman who shows a apprehension of coming foward and leading first simply gets stalked and slept by 5....

Porter is the style that'll trouble Swift who is too cute in the ring at the time with his rough housing tactics..

 

[reservoirdogs]

Watch danny vs khan for reference. Movers with leaky defense are not a huge problem for swift

Khan's chin was a factor in that though and he got reckless and abandoned his defense a little, threw 4-5 punches combos at Garcia, thought he could get away with it all night. Thurman sometimes sloppy but not that reckless when he is on the attack.

Thurman doesn't like when someone really gets at him but Danny isn't really that pressuring type.

Danny is at his best when he can counter freely but Thurman wouldn't certainly give him that opportunity. Especially now since lately he either likes out-boxing better or gets on his bike... depends on individual interpretations. It's pretty much known that Garcia is bad against mover out-boxer style, that's his weak spot, Khan might be the exception cause his weak chin and because he got carried away and became.

Sometimes good counter fighters have the same problem btw... JMM was a genial counter puncher for example but he couldn't cut down the ring for his dear life so if he was against a mover he struggled.
Canelo also struggles a little if he has to press the action.
Same with Danny imo

 

[reservoirdogs]

Thurman is made for swift, inconsistant jab, hands by his waist, no clinch game, wild shyt, no footwork although he use his feet as a defense, bleeder and sweller.. He's tailor made for a elite level counter/boxer puncher like swift who moves his head and rturn fire in tgeand based off styles with the small ww with a average punch like Thurman who shows a apprehension of coming foward and leading first simply gets stalked and slept by 5....

Porter is the style that'll trouble Swift who is too cute in the ring at the time with his rough housing tactics..

I see differently. Boxer type of fighters are all wrong for Danny and Thurman is kinda that (ok, yeah boxer-puncher but moves around in the ring) and also with big power. I can't really see how Danny would reach him or cut the ring down from him. Also Thurman's handspeed is superior. I don't see why Thurman couldn't outbox him. Getting caught with counters assumes that he goes inside or in a range where Danny can get him. I doubt that it would happen many time on that fight. Thurman wouldn't be pressed like yesterday against Porter, he could move around, pick his shots and outpoint Danny.

I'm down for a bet with you and others if this fight will happen

 

[reservoirdogs]

Danny can jab and has good body punches, he's very good in exchanges and is accurate... but Thurman can beat him, he just has to avoid exchanges and move around and land big punches which I feel that he can do.

Exactly. Danny can't really press action or cut down the ring so Thurman wouldn't be forced to a dog fights and close exchanges (like against Porter) where Danny could thrive.

 

[reservoirdogs]

I think Pederson's strategy against Garcia was great and he also won it slightly on my cards.
Move around at the beginning and the end when Danny gassed out in chasing him, he went up close and beat him up

 

[Skip b]

I see differently. Boxer type of fighters are all wrong for Danny and Thurman is kinda that (ok, yeah boxer-puncher but moves around in the ring) and also with big power. I can't really see how Danny would reach him or cut the ring down from him. Also Thurman's handspeed is superior. I don't see why Thurman couldn't outbox him. Getting caught with counters assumes that he goes inside or in a range where Danny can get him. I doubt that it would happen many time on that fight. Thurman wouldn't be pressed like yesterday against Porter, he could move around, pick his shots and outpoint Danny.

I'm down for a bet with you and others if this fight will happen

Thurman ain't no boxer he a so called power puncher that can't or refuse to come forward, and run and counter, no stripes...If porter pop makes him run, you really think he'll come forward to swift

A jab and smothering troubles swift, and watching Guerrero he figured the smothering thing out..Swift lil mans Thurman the small welter

 

[Skip b]

I think Pederson's strategy against Garcia was great and he also won it slightly on my cards.
Move around at the beginning and the end when Danny gassed out in chasing him, he went up close and beat him up

Peterson was more of a weight thing, super drained, plus pederson gained like 22 pounds after weigh in, he still edged him 7-5 imo

 

[Knicksman20]

Watched the full post fight press conference & someone from the press said that Porter looked like Leon Spinks Thurman started cracking up

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Peterson was more of a weight thing, super drained, plus pederson gained like 22 pounds after weigh in, he still edged him 7-5 imo

Exactly the only time a mover gave swift problems swift was weight drained. Canelo isn't danny.

 

[George's Dilemma]

im tellin nikkaz.man. Thurman better work on protecting his body more. that's two fights where it seemed like he can get koed from a body shot.

Errol Spence loves goin to the body like a fat kid loves cake too.

 

[TheProfessor]

Thurman needs a step down in competition, he know he lost, it wasn't close at all he truly got his ass whooped, the crowd saw it that way also, both swift and Ab mops the floor with him no need for that chump to waste their time and pump fake like he wants, or is ready for that level....Peterson is perfect for him, and a adequate step down for him...Porter has to be hushed imminently or his ghost will haunt Thurman...

 

[Edub]

Broner has hesitant as fuk in that fight, he was afraid of porters press, he got one good shot in at the end but it was too late and was dominated

I would love to see a rematch

This is EXACTLY what I saw...broner was hesitant and sketchy cuz of that dumb ass press porter does, even with no real punches landing, but porter didn't out box broner...he just had a game plan to make broner uncomfy and it worked. But the few moments those two actually boxed Mano y Mano porter wasnt really seeing broner skill wise. That loss belongs on broners corner imo. I definitely would like to see a part 2...with some actual "in fight" thinking I bet broner would smash homie.