Bounced back from a car crash, hopefully the fight isn't a trainwreck: Thurman/Porter June 25 thread
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Nah fam...he's just fragile minded. He faints in front of adversity without a SOLID game plan with coaching/training. He wasn't scared tho...he just couldn't mentally slow down the moment to ring porters bell when he leaves his head out there. The one cat wit the vicious upper cut on the undercard earlier would knock porter the fukk out. Broner just didn't slow down the moment but instead got frustrated. Granted, what could make porter better is his mental ability over broner (like tarvar vs. jones) but if broner just thinks slightly better in a rematch I see a knockout coming for Broner. Porters dad is smart.
O.T.I.S.
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Just watched most of the highlights from every round
I had it for Thurman as well but im biased. I really dislike Porters sloppy, wrestling, mauling type style. Its not really boxing, its just throwing the most punches and trying to be more physical until you wear your opponent out. It looks like he wants to box then he lunges in throwing whatever, then ties you up and pulls/pushes, uses his weight/strength to lean on the fighter until he exausted
Thurman was ready for that. Ready for this ugly, sloppy style. Like he said in the presser, if he was throwing those shots going forward instead of off his back foot, he probably couldve KO'd Porter. Instead he tried to move his feet, back up into ranges, rope a dope, etc., which worked but made Porter look better and more like the aggressor imo. My coach used to always tell us try not to go backwards as much as you can, unless it's to get in and out of range (but you can also pivot and get different angles for the same thing) because even if you countering well, he looks like the aggressor if youre backpedaling
Which is exactly what this was at times. I give Thurman more props then Porter because that wasnt his style, yet he sat in the pocket often trading blows like a wild person, countered off his backfoot, and won a lot of sloppy exchanges. Only time i saw Thurman "hurt" was when he got hit with one body shot but looked a lil low honestly... And Porter had already been warned a few times about going too low. But i gave Porter that...
Basically, Porter tries to bring his football, mauling mentality in almost every fight but an above average boxer thats strong is going to win 9/10 times against him. Thurman didnt look as polished as Kell Brook did against Porter but he did have the more effective punches which means Thurman won Imo. Like Tyson had a similar style to Porter except Tyson had effective ass punches and he didnt smother his own offense along with better headmovent, reflexes, etc. Porter does a lot of shyt i thought was wrong imo but gets away with it by smothering and wrestling his opponents down. Like Broner couldve probably KO'd Porter too if he wasnt scared to let his hands go
It was a good fight. I dont care for a rematch though. Casual fans are going to love it but it definitely wasnt a chess match. At least, it didnt look like it to me.
I had it for Thurman as well but im biased. I really dislike Porters sloppy, wrestling, mauling type style. Its not really boxing, its just throwing the most punches and trying to be more physical until you wear your opponent out. It looks like he wants to box then he lunges in throwing whatever, then ties you up and pulls/pushes, uses his weight/strength to lean on the fighter until he exausted
Thurman was ready for that. Ready for this ugly, sloppy style. Like he said in the presser, if he was throwing those shots going forward instead of off his back foot, he probably couldve KO'd Porter. Instead he tried to move his feet, back up into ranges, rope a dope, etc., which worked but made Porter look better and more like the aggressor imo. My coach used to always tell us try not to go backwards as much as you can, unless it's to get in and out of range (but you can also pivot and get different angles for the same thing) because even if you countering well, he looks like the aggressor if youre backpedaling
Which is exactly what this was at times. I give Thurman more props then Porter because that wasnt his style, yet he sat in the pocket often trading blows like a wild person, countered off his backfoot, and won a lot of sloppy exchanges. Only time i saw Thurman "hurt" was when he got hit with one body shot but looked a lil low honestly... And Porter had already been warned a few times about going too low. But i gave Porter that...
Basically, Porter tries to bring his football, mauling mentality in almost every fight but an above average boxer thats strong is going to win 9/10 times against him. Thurman didnt look as polished as Kell Brook did against Porter but he did have the more effective punches which means Thurman won Imo. Like Tyson had a similar style to Porter except Tyson had effective ass punches and he didnt smother his own offense along with better headmovent, reflexes, etc. Porter does a lot of shyt i thought was wrong imo but gets away with it by smothering and wrestling his opponents down. Like Broner couldve probably KO'd Porter too if he wasnt scared to let his hands go
It was a good fight. I dont care for a rematch though. Casual fans are going to love it but it definitely wasnt a chess match. At least, it didnt look like it to me.
I think it should be mentioned when comparing Thurman's performance with Brook's against Porter, Kell did A LOT of holding. Thurman did some holding too but not nearly as much.
Edit: I like Porter, hated when he lost to Brook, but his style is terrible. Its supposed to be boxing, not jumanji.
HARLEM AL
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Every round the fought on the inside.There were at least 6-7 rounds where the fight was in the middle of the ring the whole 3 minutes. What in the holy fukk were u dudes watching. The majority of the fight they did not even touch the ropes, and even when they did Thurman was not getting "mauled", he stayed counter punching and never looked affected by the pressure. Please explain to me how that is considered getting mauled?
Compu numbers
Power punches: Thurman 203/405 50%
Porter 177/460 38%
But let u nikkas tell it, that's called getting mauled
Being on the inside don't have to be on the ropes.
Do me a favor playa. You see my post, skip that shyt.
Thank you..
O.T.I.S.
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I just cant get behind him because of that style.
At least not yet. Its not exciting to me...
And i don't remember if Kell held that much, i just know he clearly outboxed Porter.
And to jump in other people convos, i think Floyd would own Porter easily. It would be semi interesting though... Just to see how at this late in his career
Floyd would own Thurman too.. I like Keith but he's not a good enough boxer. Their press conference would be lit though
Danny Garcia might beat both Porter and Thurman. You never hook with a hooker and Garcia would probably catch them both... Porter on the chin and Thurman on the ribs. But Thurman has the best chance of winning imo because hes the better boxer between Porter and Thurman. You beat Garcia by outboxing him, but that wild shyt is out the window though. Danny is like controlled chaos in exchanges...
Porter vs. Maidana would be interesting... Who's the #1 mauler?
Broner vs. Garcia/Thurman is interesting as well.... As long as Broner can get a win big enough to draw one of them out
Welterweight is lit though
DetroitEWarren
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nikka fukk your posts, clown smh.
Maidana probably aint coming back but, I think Porter would handle him based on the body work shown last night and his chin. Devon Alexander and Floyd in the rematch were performing gastric bypass surgery on Maidana. He's tailor made for body punchers. Floyd said he was gonna go to the body prior to fight #2, and he had Marcos taking some deep breaths after the spears and hooks when in close range. Plus, Porter's chin is just...wow. Just a hard head. His teeth might be an extension of the adamantium in his dome.
Will Danny's power carry at this weight though? Malignaggi doesnt count, but he had trouble with both Peterson and Guerrero. Keith just might hurt him if he boxes as opposed to looking for the KO like you mentioned. Khan was beating his azz something fierce until that fateful exchange.
Broner/Garcia is a toss up to me cuz its gonna go to the judges. Broner's gonna walk him down, and confidently eat counters and get his own sh!t off. Dont know who will ultimately look better when its all said and done.
I was surprised at the lack of One Times jab...Going off only seeing the fight once I think Porters was much better
As far as Swift vs Thurman...its classic Swift going get demolished pre fight then the fight happens N errybody
Garcias work to the body N countering will be a problem for Keith... Like you mentioned the lack of Thurmans jab N not clinching will also make it easier on Danny
To me that fight comes down to if Garcias chin holds up...which one of them gasses first AND I believe Angel can get under Thurmans skin combined with Keith believing Swift isn't a true Walterweight Thurman might think he can walk thru Garcia N get caught with some shyt
I see what you did there. Keith and his linguistics.seemorecizzy
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Fight coulda went either way
No point of getting too emotional for one side lol
It's a draw or 7-5 for either fighter
I agree with the judges on this one tho
I think thurman edged it out
If porter would have fought a lil more controlled, I think he coulda won
But he was just a lil too reckless
I also think thurman coulda have got a clearer win if he used his jab and held more
Both guys were in unbelievable condition
Great fight
No point of getting too emotional for one side lol
It's a draw or 7-5 for either fighter
I agree with the judges on this one tho
I think thurman edged it out
If porter would have fought a lil more controlled, I think he coulda won
But he was just a lil too reckless
I also think thurman coulda have got a clearer win if he used his jab and held more
Both guys were in unbelievable condition
Great fight
O.T.I.S.
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Great points.
I think Garcia has had enough time to adjust to the weightclass though. And he has trouble with most boxers... But hes still beat them, its just once they become undisciplined Danny eats.
So if Keiths jab isnt there Danny might eat especially hooks to the body. Khan was doing damage and Danny isnt the best pure boxer, but he is one of the best hookers in the game imo.. So when you try to hook with him or pop off too many combo shots, i think its a bad idea... Plus Khans lack of chin doesnt help, i think its same result as last time honestly. If Keith becomes to hittable for Danny, he could catch some body shots or something that rocks him... I think he will box Danny though. Just got to stay disciplined
Broner doesnt normally do that so i agree with your assessment of Broner vs. Swift. It will be back and forth of Broner walking down and pop shotting while Danny tries to get close enough to land hooks. If Broner gets too comfortable he'll get tagged but think not clean enough for a KO
Porter does have a good chin but like i said, Thurman was throwing a lot of backfoot shots... Not sitting on his punches and rarely going forward. Plus, Porter has shown he can go down against a good puncher... But might not get KO'd.
Plus he does have a good chin but it isnt hard to hit... As its been shown in his last few fights. If you let your hands go he is hittable, and sometimes thats all fighters like Maidana and Garcia need. I agree with the bodywork on Maidana though.
It eould be interesting fights all around though
HARLEM AL
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King P
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I see everybody is divided on who won the fight.
I had it Thurman 116-112. I see alot of 115-113 for Porter as well. Some had it a draw. Really no wrong decision, I just felt Thurman did the better and more effective work
Was the FOTY so far though IMO and would love to see a rematch. Although I don't think Porter is staying as WW much longer, so we'll have to weight a bit for that.
Thurman/Swift would really be a tossup, and at first I favored Keith but now I'm starting to favor Danny
I had it Thurman 116-112. I see alot of 115-113 for Porter as well. Some had it a draw. Really no wrong decision, I just felt Thurman did the better and more effective work
Was the FOTY so far though IMO and would love to see a rematch. Although I don't think Porter is staying as WW much longer, so we'll have to weight a bit for that.
Thurman/Swift would really be a tossup, and at first I favored Keith but now I'm starting to favor Danny
NormanConnors
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thanks brehI thought keith edged it out by a couple rounds
. i wouldnt have been mad at a draw. Keith needs to tighten up those punches though, he could have done MUCH more damage not swinging as wide, Porter was definitely there to be hit/and was stunned a couple times imo