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Bone has a little comeback in 2006 or 2007 as I recall.
Commercially, Mobb Deep didn’t get a plaque after 2001. They were never close to as big as Bone in the 90s. The trajectory is similar, so why are they out streaming Bone now?

When Bone had a comeback in 2007, Mobb was signed to G-Unit and G Unit was still somewhat big at the time. They were also featured on "Outta Control" remix, which was a BIG record. That was bigger than anything Bone had done since the 90's.
 

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Because while Juve sold more records, it was largely due to the one album. After 400 Degreez, he had an album that went platinum, a gold album, and another platinum album in 2004.

Mobb Deep has a song that is featured in the climax of a huge movie. Taking nothing away from "Shook Ones Pt. 2", but it being featured in the height of that movie put new ears onto that song and Mobb Deep even if it was just the instrumental.
So people are streaming Mobb now because of a scene in a 20 year old movie? :deadmanny:
 

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When Bone had a comeback in 2007, Mobb was signed to G-Unit and G Unit was still somewhat big at the time. They were also featured on "Outta Control" remix, which was a BIG record. That was bigger than anything Bone had done since the 90's.
Bone got a platinum single and gold album with that comeback album. Mobb got no plaques in connection with the G Unit run, although that remix was their highest charting song ever.
 

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Bone got a platinum single and gold album with that comeback album. Mobb got no plaques in connection with the G Unit run, although that remix was their highest charting song ever.

That remix was still a bigger deal than the album and single Bone put out in 2007. "Outta Control" remix was huge and "Shook Ones Pt. 2" being featured in 8 Mile was an even bigger deal.
 

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The list doesn’t even contain 5 90s albums.
There isn’t enough relevant data on the list to talk about 90s albums.
What does the list tell you about Bone or E.1999 and how it compares to Mobb or any Mobb album?

It doesn't have to contain more than 5 90's albums as it is an all time list. My point is that streaming says nothing of how timeless the music is. That data just shows the consumption of music since streaming and those 5 albums were the most streamed of all 90's album. According to you, those would be the most timeless 90's albums based on what you've stated in here.

The list tells me nothing about a Bone or Mobb Deep other than no album from either group was streamed enough to make the list.
 

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And just to put to this whole Bone vs. Mobb streaming discussion to bed, Fat Joe has more monthly listeners than Warren G and Ja Rule. All of them debuted in the 90's. Warren G had a 3X platinum album in the 90's. Fat Joe had one gold album in the 90's. Warren G has 4.2 million monthly listeners and Joe has more than 6 million. Ja Rule has like 5 million. Ja Rule sold significantly more records than Fat Joe.
 

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That remix was still a bigger deal than the album and single Bone put out in 2007. "Outta Control" remix was huge and "Shook Ones Pt. 2" being featured in 8 Mile was an even bigger deal.
It felt that way to me, but objectively, I Tried went platinum and Outta Control did not. It didn’t go gold either. I Tried peaked at #6 on the Billboard and remained on the Hot 100 for 18 weeks. Outta Control also peaked at #6 but did remain on the Hot 100 for an additional week (19 weeks total). Objectively speaking, commercial wise, I Tried was bigger since people were buying the single and the chart activity was essentially identical.
Shook Ones being on 8 Mile was a big deal 20 years ago, but it got that placement because it was already a legendary/iconic song at that point and it fit the movie. It’s not a matter of just swapping in any underground 90s song in that slot and it will become the consensus GOAT hip hop song.
 

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A movie that is still shown television 20 years later.
I haven’t seen it in a long time, but I’ll take your word for it. I do remember it being on TV all the time years ago.
Are you saying that a significant amount of the Spotify streams are a direct result of that movie? That a significant amount of people only stream Mobb Deep after seeing the movie on TV?
 

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It doesn't have to contain more than 5 90's albums as it is an all time list.
Exactly. The conclusion from the list is that 90s hip hop albums, as a whole, get a fraction of the streaming activity of 2000s and 2010s albums. If there was a list of the top 100 90s albums, that would give us a lot of data about which 90s albums are streaming and which aren’t. We could see trends from that. Would most be east coast? West Coast? Underground? Commercial?
4 albums tells us virtually nothing. About 90s albums.
 

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That data just shows the consumption of music since streaming
Isnt that relevant data though? What people are actually listening to?
If there was a way to know the streaming activity of every artist, every album, every song, wouldn’t that tell us what people are actually listening to? What could be more relevant to whether something has stood the test of time than whether people are still listening to it?
What are the more important factors to you?
 
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