It's kinda funny how gender wars are becoming the new diaspora wars on the Coli after the latter got banned by the mods. The dynamics are very uncanny.
But the gender stuff seems way more personal while the disapora stuff seemed halfway serious halfway trolling. Even when Tariq had that Twitter panel about immigration with Black immigrants, it was basically a roasting session with some serious points made here and there. A Coli and LSA Twitter panel discussing gender issues will break the entire Internet because everyone will be dead serious and angry af lol.
Staying on topic, though, immigrants generally have a stronger drive and family structure than Americans regardless of race. That's one of the main reasons why so many Italian owned businesses in NYC tend to be staffed by Hispanic, Middle Eastern, and Albanian immigrants. The younger paisans don't want to work at mom and pop shops anymore or keep the businesses expanding. But immigrants most definitely will take those jobs and eventually save money to start their own business.
I hate to say it but pre-Integration Black people hustled just like immigrants today and had a higher marriage rate than White people(no joke. Look it up). That Jamaican skit on In Living Color could easily apply to Black Southerners in the 1950's-1960's. We damn near invented the concept of the "side hustle."
But, after integration, we had doors open for us which was really great but we were also like a chicken with a head cut off which allowed certain things like individualism, the sexual revolution, crack epidemic, welfare favoring one parent households, materialism, and eventually social media clout to eventually plague our communities after we were scrambling around to become a new Black America after the Civil Rights Movement.
Overall, you can't compare Black American men to immigrants because immigrants will always have the advantage of not being corrupted by the individualism, materialism, loss of original culture, government(and slavery) dividing families, terrorism of Black businesses, etc. that we were subjected to. Not to mention the loans many of them get that we can't.
We can work on ourselves for sure in certain areas but it's apples and oranges. And many American born Hispanics ain't much better off than we are. I used to live in San Antonio for a brief moment and have relatives that live in Corona in Queens. There's plenty of U.S. born Hispanic men that are uneducated, work low wage jobs, and let gangsters/dealers run their blocks.