Black teen misses bus, gets shot at after asking for directions in Rochester Hills

[The Devil's Advocate]

Imagine if he didn't miss the damn bus. imagine he find maybe a grocery store, gas station or some other business that might be open.

imagine a grocery store, gas station or other business in the middle of a suburb complex... imagine that he really needed help but said to himself "let me walk past these endless houses with people to make to the gas station which might be farther away and in the wrong direction of the school".... imagine a kid who doesn't know how to get to school, knows how to get everywhere you listed... imagine he knocks on a door, someone sane answers, tells him where to go, and we never hear about this shyt...

how we blaming him? shyt my black ass would have said fukk school the minute i missed the damn bus... little breh was just trying to get educated by any means


imagine you thought about your post before hitting send

 

[MoroccanBoy]

I needed a lift home once and my phone was dead. Tried hitchhiking but nobidy picks you up in the uk its a very closed society where people dont trust strangers or anybody really. So i went to my regular police station and asked to use their phone. They are oublic servants afterall and are obliged to help a taxpayer in need

Westwrn societies are garbagd when you need help. In morocco i can knock on any randoms door and they will let you in and even make you tea.

No wonder mental health is a hige problem in western countries nobody likes anybody or socialises with each othwr.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

these what if's are very telling though. the only way to absolve the mother for her role in her son being lost without a way to communicate is to go to hypotheticals where she didn't take the phone away.

These hypotheticals are hilarious becuz hardly anyone is discussing the facts laid out in the article. The mother herself showed her lack of judgment with direct quotes in the article

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

why would the mother be at blame for something outside of her control happening to the phone? If the same situation happened with the only difference being that his phone broke instead of being taken away then the mother wouldn't have done anything to contribute to him being in a situation where he was lost without a phone.

It's an appropriate question because it kills your whole argument that sending a 14 year old out to catch a bus for school without a cellphone is some crazy dangerous situation that the mother should be blamed for.

Regardless of how the communication option was lost, in my question, the mother knows it's losts and still decides to send her child to school. If the having a cellphone was as vital as you c00ns are trying to make it, then she should have taken off of work or found some other way to ensure he could navigate the big bad world without that cellphone.

When did I ever blame the mother for her son getting shot?

But as far as your question goes that’s irrelevant. The phone didn’t break she took it from him. But let’s say it did break. He would’ve been just as assed out. At the same time that’s totally different than crippling your own child of means of communication

See above for the relevance of the question

You're in here positioning yourself with c00n ass Matt, so it's easy to how someone would think you are blaming the mom too. But if you're not, then, cool, my bad. Matt most certainly is tho.

 

[knickscity]

But the age I’m talking about getting my daughter a phone she’d only be a couple years younger than this kid. But based on the way you say you’ve raised your kids I’m pretty sure they’d know how to navigate their neighborhood. Based on that assumption wouldn’t you say that his parents are at least partly responsible for him not knowing how to get around?

Absolutely, and they could have done it when younger without a phone. The lack of a phone isn't my issue here. This high school aged child cant find his way out of his own neighborhood. That's a big issue. As a parent I have taught my kids at an early age to read. When riding around, they used to call out signs of everything they read, and they are in the cellphone age, as my oldest son was 5 in 2001. They just are more observant of their surroundings. I guess to a degree that's on the parent.

Knowing your neighborhood should be on the 14 year old, normally kids do know their neighborhood to some extent. And I'm sorry, knocking on strangers doors is an absolute no go for me. What else could he do just don't fly.

 

[Matt504]

It's an appropriate question because it kills your whole argument that sending a 14 year old out to catch a bus for school without a cellphone is some crazy dangerous situation that the mother should be blamed for.

Regardless of how the communication option was lost, in my question, the mother knows it's losts and still decides to send her child to school. If the having a cellphone was as vital as you c00ns are trying to make it, then she should have taken off of work or found some other way to ensure he could navigate the big bad world without that cellphone.
.

Lets revisit the facts of this case, facts meaning, what actually happened.

Walker was trying to walk the bus route to Rochester High School after he woke up late and missed his bus. His mom had taken his phone away, so he didn't have that with him to get directions. So he knocked on a stranger’s door for help -- and almost paid for it with his life.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Lets revisit the facts of this case, facts meaning, what actually happened.

Exactly here you go dodging again.

You can't argue that she's wrong for sending him out without a cellphone because she took it away and then turn around and act like it's cool for her to send him out without a cellphone that she knows doesn't work.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

It's an appropriate question because it kills your whole argument that sending a 14 year old out to catch a bus for school without a cellphone is some crazy dangerous situation that the mother should be blamed for.

Regardless of how the communication option was lost, in my question, the mother knows it's losts and still decides to send her child to school. If the having a cellphone was as vital as you c00ns are trying to make it, then she should have taken off of work or found some other way to ensure he could navigate the big bad world without that cellphone.

See above for the relevance of the question

You're in here positioning yourself with c00n ass Matt, so it's easy to how someone would think you are blaming the mom too. But if you're not, then, cool, my bad. Matt most certainly is tho.

The only blame I place on the mother is for taking away the kids means of communication which is most likely the main reason she got it for him in the first place. She already showed her mentality with her quotes. Hopefully this situation was the wake up call she needed

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

The only blame I place on the mother is for taking away the kids means of communication which is most likely the main reason she got it for him in the first place. She already showed her mentality with her quotes. Hopefully this situation was the wake up call she needed

So are you gonna answer my question, or nah?

 

[Matt504]

Exactly here you go dodging again.

You can't argue that she's wrong for sending him out without a cellphone because she took it away and then turn around and act like it's cool for her to send him out without a cellphone that she knows doesn't work.

Parents typically buy their teens phone so they can communicate with each other in the event of an emergency. If the phone was broken and not taken away, a parent who's actually concerned with their child's safety might make arrangements to drop their child off at school to maintain a chain of custody. This doesn't appear to be a parent concerned with her child's safety as she made the unwise decision of taking away a device that could assist him in the event that he's in a situation where he's lost and helpless.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Parents typically buy their teens phone so they can communicate with each other in the event of an emergency. If the phone was broken and not taken away, a parent who's actually concerned with their child's safety might make arrangements to drop their child off at school to maintain a chain of custody. This doesn't appear to be a parent concerned with her child's safety as she made the unwise decision of taking away a device that could assist him in the event that he's in a situation where he's lost and helpless.

So now you're dancing. Before you said it was perfectly fine for her to send her child to catch a bus to school without his cellphone. Now you're talking about a "concerned parent" would make other arrangements.

Your c00n ass is full of shyt.

 

[Matt504]

So now you're dancing. Before you said it was perfectly fine for her to send her child to catch a bus to school without his cellphone. Now you're talking about a "concerned parent" would make other arrangements.

Your c00n ass is full of shyt.

maybe you have trouble with reading comprehension.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

So are you gonna answer my question, or nah?

Yes she would still be wrong. Not for still sending her child to school but for not providing/showing alternatives for him to get in touch with her if he needed to

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

maybe you have trouble with reading comprehension.

No you're just a c00n who is full of shyt...

I asked you a specific question about if the phone broke the night before but she still decided to have her kid catch the bus to school, as usual, the next morning would she be to blame, and this was your response:

why would the mother be at blame for something outside of her control happening to the phone? If the same situation happened with the only difference being that his phone broke instead of being taken away then the mother wouldn't have done anything to contribute to him being in a situation where he was lost without a phone.

And now you're trying to tap dance around it.

 

[knickscity]

I really don't see the angle about the phone. This highschool aged child cant make it out of his neighborhood without google maps. that's the biggest issue here.