Black QBs twice as likely to be benched than whites

[Carlos Huerta]

If that's the case then Tebow would have gotten another starting job just to sell tickets

A nfl coach has no life his whole life 24/7 is concentrated on his team he's not paying attention to what some a$$holes on sportsradio want for the qb

Act like Denver didn't have plans on bringing Peyton Manning to town

 

[NYC Rebel]

Too small of a sample size to take this seriously. How many black QBs outside of Russell Wilson and Cam have played well enough not to be benched in the last few years? It has less to do with color and more to do with individual talent and the situation they're in. RG3 was always gonna get benched for instance, we understand that.

It's not too small a sample size. Did you read the study's measurements to come to that conclusion?

We see this shyt in all walks of life, bruh.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Black people aren't allowed to make mistakes," musician Prince declared last year, in a statement that spoke for many. Screw up once, the thinking goes, and you're out, having confirmed the view of many whites that you didn't deserve a shot in the first place.

New research provides evidence of that destructive dynamic on one of America's largest stages: the National Football League.

A new study concludes that, after a sub-par performance, black NFL quarterbacks are roughly twice as likely to be benched the following week than their white colleagues.


After taking a series of variables into account (including age, experience, and injury), Assumption College economist Brian Volz found a pattern of player replacement that suggests systematic racial discrimination. He also reports that, in terms of on-field performance, teams pay a price for this behavior.

Writing in the Journal of Sports Economics, Volz begins by noting that, over the last 13 seasons, the percentage of African-American starting quarterbacks ranged from 16 to 28 percent—startlingly low numbers, considering that about two-thirds of NFL players are black.
To determine whether this reflects racial discrimination, he analyzed data from 2001 to 2009, looking specifically at quarterbacks who started the first game of the season. (He reasoned that those whose first game as a starter come later in the season may simply be replacing an injured or otherwise indisposed player.)
He then took into account a number of non-racial factors that could influence a quarterback being benched, including his age, experience, and performance; the quality of the second-string quarterback who replaced him; and of course any injuries he had sustained. In addition, he looked at the percentage of black residents in a team's metropolitan area, to see if the racial make-up of the fan base had an impact on the decision.

Volz found that, once all the variables were factored in, "black starting quarterbacks are 1.98 to 2.46 times more likely to be benched the next week" than white quarterbacks with approximately equivalent skills. "This implies that black quarterbacks may face some level of discrimination in the NFL," he writes.

"Limited evidence is found that black quarterbacks face less discrimination in areas with a larger percentage of black residents," he adds. This implies that, in some cases, "owners are simply responding to the desires of their customers."

Or are they? Those fans want the team to win, and Volz's analysis shows that "when white quarterbacks are replaced, the team improves by more than when black quarterbacks are replaced." That, he writes, clearly shows "there is a cost to this discrimination."

The results suggest some whites feel a degree of discomfort seeing an African American in an on-field leadership role, and this puts pressure on black quarterbacks to produce quickly or be replaced. Whether the coaches and team owners are responding in a personally racist way, or believe they are reflecting the perceived preferences of the fans, is not clear. But either is equally indefensible.
Given the fact professional football is dealing with a lot of problems at the moment, one hesitates to pile on. But this pernicious pattern needs to be examined, and the discrimination it reveals should be ruled out of bounds.

Black Quarterbacks Are Benched Twice As Often As Whites, Study Finds

 

[Taadow]

Hmmmm...

I'll take that L.

Still, you don't think Black QBs have a smaller tolerance period than white ones?

 

[Frump]

Act like Denver did have plans on bringing Peyton Manning to town

I'm talking any team. Jacksonville had no qb or fans they could have brought Tebow in continue to lose but fill seats.

 

[Carlos Huerta]

I'm talking any team. Jacksonville had no qb or fans they could have brought Tebow in continue to lose but fill seats.

My point was not an absolute and you're using one player, an anomaly like Tim Tebow, to debunk 40+ years of evidence?

 

[Trip]

In Kapernicks case(who's also half white) wasn't it the locker room pushing for him to be benched? Ditto RG3. I can't imagine the Niners front office was excited to bench the guy they just gave a huge contract to for Gabbert.

 

[Frump]

My point was not an absolute and you're using one player, an anomaly like Tim Tebow, to debunk 40+ years of evidence?

I'm using an example that a coach isn't making a decision based on fans

A coach wants longevity and to get paid and to do that you must WIN a coach will do whatever he thinks gives him the best chance nothing more nothing less.

 

[Master Teacher]

Mike Tomlin is the most overrated coach probably since Buddy Ryan.

Super Bowl winning coach overrated lmao, only if he's black

 

[Carlos Huerta]

I'm using an example that a coach isn't making a decision based on fans

A coach wants longevity and to get paid and to do that you must WIN a coach will so whatever he thinks gives him the best chance nothing more nothing less.

That's exactly what's being examined here, isn't it? Seems that coaches "think" they're going to win more with white QBs a lot more than their black counterparts. The issue is why the time given to prove themselves is so disparate.

 

[NYC Rebel]

In Kapernicks case(who's also half white) wasn't it the locker room pushing for him to be benched? Ditto RG3. I can't imagine the Niners front office was excited to bench the guy they just gave a huge contract to for Gabbert.

Lol at you bringing up him being half white. Dude is the same complexion as my son. He's black by standards here.

 

[Swamp-Thing]

I am excited to see an NFL where a guy who wasn't a top prospect, like Tyrod Taylor is able to earn himself an opportunity and run with it.

I am excited to see an NFL where a guy can just be himself and not even get the "black QB" label, like Russel Wilson.

I am excited to see an NFL where an immature guy who's built like Shaq can be a legit elite QB, while at the same time be able to stomp a defender into the ground, like Cam Newton.

I am excited to see an NFL where an ex-criminal who's left-handed can get second and third chances to perform at a high level and then be paid for it, like Mike Vick.

I am not going to play the victim and look at things negatively, especially when it's unnecessary. Also, I debunked this claim about 5 posts back.

Here's the best I can do to break this down.....

There's a very high turnover rate of QBs in the league (and really all positions with a 3.5 year career average). Of all 32 starting QBs, at any given time there are only 5-8 elite ones. The smaller (but growing) number of black starting QBs combined with the innate high turnover of the position will in turn create a higher proportion of black QBs being benched, than non-black QBs. You don't even need to do a big fact check to understand this point.

 

[NYC Rebel]

That's exactly what's being examined here, isn't it? Seems that coaches "think" they're going to win more with white QBs a lot more than their black counterparts. The issue is why the time given to prove themselves is so disparate.

Bottomline, "many" whites have a difficult time believing that blacks can mentally mature beyond their current state. and if that current state isn't producing immediate results, the patience and nurturing simply isn't available to them because they're viewed as a finished product, period.

We see it in all walks of life from schools, employment. Why do these "fair minded" whites get in the way of us explaining the obvious?

 

[Dwolf]

Mark Sanchez still starting was the craziest shyt I ever seen.

 

[Swamp-Thing]

Bottomline, "many" whites have a difficult time believing that blacks can mentally mature beyond their current state. and if that current state isn't producing immediate results, the patience and nurturing simply isn't available to them because they're viewed as a finished product, period.

We see it in all walks of life from schools, employment. Why do these "fair minded" whites get in the way of us explaining the obvious?

You just hate white people, chill