Black QBs twice as likely to be benched than whites

[Swamp-Thing]

So much c00nery/whiteness... Where do I even begin?

How do you overrate a coach that has:

Won a SB - Against a shytty Cardinals team, probably the shyttiest team to play in a SB ever
Never had a losing record - I didn't say he wasn't fortunate.
Won 4 out of 8 AFCN titles in arguably the best division in the NFL - Who is arguing about that being the best? Browns and Bengals fans? Andy Reid locked down the NFC East for a decade+
Developed both the best WR and the best RB in the NFL - That's on Antonio Brown and LeVeon Bell, nothing to do with the HC.

It was dikk LeBeau you say? Then why is the defense looking vastly superior with him leaving, and Tomlin implementing his system? Their defense blows, LaBeau just made all the decisions.

Bruce Arians you say? Didnt Tomlin beat his squad with a 2nd and 3rd string QB? Um maybe, what's the relevance? Arians has a better record and is a better coach.

Please go away white kid. - Fight me

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Swamp-Thing]

Why do you keep repeating this as if it wasn't explicitly accounted for in the study? We're not dealing with 2 or 3 black qbs to 100s of white QBs, the ratio is about 1:4. It doesn't matter what the overall turnover rate is, what matters is the ratio of black QB turnover to white QB turnover. If there was no racial discrimination, we would be seeing about a 1:1 turnover ratio, not double that. I don't know how you can so casually dismiss racial discrimination as an underlying factor in light of the general atmosphere of racial discrimination in America...unless you don't believe American society is inherently racist? NFL teams are businesses highly dependant on public support, so if your fan base is seeing blacks as inherently unfit for leadership positions and express that sentiment in overt or covert ways, that's obviously going to have an effect on the decision making of the teams. Just go to any football comment section or fan board and see how they talk about black QBs. Most white people are inherently uncomfortable with them.

I believe there was horrendous racism throughout this nation from it's inception, and I think naturally people feel more comfortable around others who they deem 'similar'. It's a stupid feature of mankind, but it is across the species, not a trait of a certain ethnicity.

It is wrong to favor anyone based on appearance, so go date that girl with the good personality. As time goes on, we need people to THOUGHTFULLY raise awareness and promote love, acceptance, and equality throughout all walks of life. HOWEVER, in this particular scenario, the claim is biased and not a real representation of anything, other than the ability to rile people up over nothing because they are easily manipulated.

In summary, I should not be called a CAC because I don't worship Mike Tomlin and think he's overrated. Clearly, for the reasons stated, my opinion is not racially motivated, to make that assumption about me is just as wrong as the ridiculous claims being made by this report, if they were indeed true and unbiased.

If you wanna get mad, get mad about these fukking cops taking advantage of their power and in some cases killing innocent people. Don't complain because RG3 sucks in the NFL. I still believe that love is the best option though, and I try to be fair with police.

 

[THE MACHINE]

GMs and coaches without question listen to public outcries for change at the qb position. And that public is mostly white and views black qbs by a different measure.

Ignore it if you will, clown.

These are the same folks that would have said "you think a white business owner would lose his business before serving black customers" back in the 50s

 

[NYC Rebel]

I believe there was horrendous racism throughout this nation from it's inception, and I think naturally people feel more comfortable around others who they deem 'similar'. It's a stupid feature of mankind, but it is across the species, not a trait of a certain ethnicity.

It is wrong to favor anyone based on appearance, so go date that girl with the good personality. As time goes on, we need people to THOUGHTFULLY raise awareness and promote love, acceptance, and equality throughout all walks of life. HOWEVER, in this particular scenario, the claim is biased and not a real representation of anything, other than the ability to rile people up over nothing because they are easily manipulated.

In summary, I should not be called a CAC because I don't worship Mike Tomlin and think he's overrated. Clearly, for the reasons stated, my opinion is not racially motivated, to make that assumption about me is just as wrong as the ridiculous claims being made by this report, if they were indeed true and unbiased.

So this is about you being called a cac, not responding to the subject at hand?

Fartin Luffa Queen outchea!

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

@Swamp-Thing

The article in the OP wasn't 'blaming" anyone, only exposing trends with supporting analytical data.

What does what you say have to do with the article?

Numbers are the numbers. In a predominantly black league, only 1/4 of the QBs are black and of that 1/4, they're twice as likely to be benched than white QBs.

Case closed.

This data matches the eye test. So what are you arguing against?

It's only going to become more obvious since more and more college QBs are black. It's a reason the Goffs & Lynch's of the world get instant hype the moment they flash and no one cares when they fail.

Cardale is 11-0 as a starter whole Goff has lost 4 games in a row while looking like a 4th round typical spread QB who can't read a defense.

That said, Cardale gets benched while Goff is still being projected to go in the top 15 picks. Apparantly, Goff's only penalty for playing like trash is not being penciled in as the unanimous #1 pick.

Not to mention even when Cardale won a chip, he was still criticized far more than Goff was during the peak of his hype, and that came after beating trash teams.

 

[Swamp-Thing]

^ Your anecdotal assertion aside, the numbers are skewed and the argument biased. Truthfully, I know it wasn't blaming anyone, BECAUSE THERE'S NOONE POSSIBLY WHO COULD BE TO BLAME, even if the numbers were straightforwardly presented with the same outcome. I'm just pointing out that obvious truth.

So this is about you being called a cac, not responding to the subject at hand?

@ your whole belief system and existence. You mad. We can all tell. Get over it, kid.

 

[NYC Rebel]

@ your whole belief system and existence. You mad. We can all tell.

Get over it, kid.

We? You got a team behind you on your keyboard?

I feel sorry for stupidity, never angry at it.

 

[NYC Rebel]

^ The numbers are skewed and the argument biased. Truthfully, I know it wasn't blaming anyone, BECAUSE THERE'S NOONE POSSIBLY WHO COULD BE TO BLAME, even if the numbers were straightforwardly presented with the same outcome. I'm just pointing out that obvious truth.

Based on what other than your hurt feelings?

are you equipped to bring up math?

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

Pretty sure Jeff George got that treatment I'm the 90s

Jeff George was a complete cancer and one of the most disliked players in NFL history.

 

[Supa]

Y'all ain't put the trolls on ignore?

 

[PoPimp84]

I'm only posting in this thread so others here don't get their mind manipulated by an obviously fraudulent claim being made to make you angry, bitter, and put you in a powerless, non-responsibility taking, victim mindset.

That's all I'm here to say.

thank you for your courage... but we are good tho fam, you can sit this one out

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

Bills got 3 black QB's and a black GM.

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Not so fast...

EJ Manuel's meltdown puts Bills' trade of Matt Cassel in spotlight
10/25/2015

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  Mike Rodak, ESPN Staff Writer

LONDON -- If Doug Whaley thinks he took heat for trading Matt Cassel when the Buffalo Bills dealt their most experienced quarterback to the Dallas Cowboys last month, he hasn't seen anything yet.

Whaley will undoubtedly face further, sharper criticism after EJ Manuel -- the Bills' lone backup option once Tyrod Taylor suffered a knee injury in Week 5 -- had a disaster of a first half Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars in London, where the Jaguars led 27-13 at the half.

Manuel finished the first half 12-for-24, passing for 130 yards and a 45.5 quarterback rating. He saw his numbers bounce back on a late-second-quarter touchdown drive -- the only glimmer of hope in an otherwise terrible first half.

Manuel might be playing without injured wide receivers Sammy Watkins and Percy Harvin, as well as starting right guard John Miller and right tackle Seantrel Henderson, but his inaccuracy on some throws and his poor decision-making on other passes weren't entirely a result of the offense's injuries.

Would Cassel, the 10-year veteran who saw the bulk of first-team reps in training camp, have been the better option after Taylor went down?

Think the Bills' coaches will be any happier after Manuel's meltdown early in Sunday's game against the 1-5 Jaguars? Back in September, before Cassel was dealt away, Bills quarterbacks coach David Lee referred to Cassel as the "glue" that held together his QB room.

The Bills received a 2017 fifth-round pick from the Cowboys in exchange for Cassel and the Bills' 2017 seventh-round pick.

"In the long run, we looked at is as, you have EJ with a longer shelf life," Whaley said last Friday. "Arguably you could say he’s got a bigger upside -- but that’s the debate, so you’re taking half that equation out -- and then you get a fifth rounder in '17, which you can jockey. ... I mean a fifth round in ’17, you can jockey in the draft this year or have two picks in the fifth round of ’17.

"So you’re gonna get another player with a longer upside and a bigger shelf life."

See how this ESPN article came and went like a fart in the wind???

That's because Cassel hasnt won a game with Dallas' talent and O line.

So why was the article written in the first place? It acknowledged Manuel was playing without major weapons... why would they assume Cassel could do better in the same situation?

I need answers...

 

[Swamp-Thing]

thank you for your courage... but we are good tho fam, you can sit this one out

^ Great, ok so I'll take a #3 medium with a coke, and can I get a hashbrown instead of fries? I heard yall doing all day breakfast now.

Based on what other than your hurt feelings?

are you equipped to bring up math?

Not this time, just sound logic.

Let's list all the QBs getting a raw deal right now and go from there, if we use that as the basis, then I can get on board.

 

[PoPimp84]

^ Great, ok so I'll take a #3 medium with a coke, and can I get a hashbrown instead of fries? I heard yall doing all day breakfast now.

let me guess you want extra mayonnaise with that?

FOH cac and post in a hockey thread