"Black people were better off during the Jim Crow era"-the coli

[Skrilla]

Cacs always expose themselves in these kinds of threads

They're usually the ones who argue that it's better or "just as good" for us to work for white ppl than to have our own businesses.

And the rest who agree are just the usual bootlicking c00ns

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Yup. Funny how NOBODY black that's old enough to live through the 40's, 50's, and 60's says life was easier back then (well nobody except Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson)...only millennials with internet connections whose perspective and education consists of watching smartdumb rants from youtube celebrities and have no idea what it's like to live having no freedom or autonomy at all, where walking too far out of your immediate vicinity or looking the wrong way or saying the wrong thing could mean being beaten or killed by white people. You can't rant on the internet about c00ns and cacs in 1950. Every white person was an authority figure...what a life. Cats sit here and post about how much they hate cacs all day, but romanticize life during times when every aspect of black life was completely under a white heel.

And on another note, this "buh buh but we had businesses then!" is a joke. With few exceptions, black businesses were not striving and black business owners were poor just like their patrons. There was no freedom in being a black business owner in the Jim Crow era. You were allowed to own the businesses white people allowed you to own where white people wanted you to be, with your only customers being who white people allowed. Restrictive covenants, redlining, loan discrimination, and predatory lending kept black businesses poor. And the public services allotted to those businesses and the communities they served were shyt. You couldn't have your own patents. You had to sell them to a white man, or they just took your invention. And if you got too successful despite the odds stacked against you, you got shut down through violence like in Tulsa and Wilmington and countless more cases on a smaller scale. Funny how all those black business owners dipped with the quickness to take jobs doing manual back-breaking labor at steel mills, auto plants, etc. during the post-WWII economy, and hardly any of those businesses were profitable enough to still be standing today.

That's not true free enterprise and entrepeneurship. True black entrepeneurship is going on in places like Atlanta, Houston, and D.C. today.

The average pre-civil rights black business owner would trample one of these delusional clowns through a time portal to take their desk job at a call center.

We didn't have it better back then but the complaints expressed by millenials are valid. Most of these said black posters are currently living the black American experience in 2016. Black Millennials look back in history with a critical eye. They see a Unified black family unit back then that they are envious of and should be. They are looking at history through a present lens. You can't tell a young black coli member growing up in a single parent household in a crime ridden area looking back an era with strong family values that what he is looking at and wanting is not justified. You can't.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Telling black folks "shut the fukk up, y'all have it good now" ironically was what cacs were saying in 1950s- 1960s. People arguing that point please remember when you are critical of the black experience today eventually today becomes history. I'm just saying.

 

[keepemup]

No clue why cats want to tarnish and even ridicule the efforts and gains of their ancestors. And for what?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Telling black folks "shut the fukk up, y'all have it good now" ironically was what cacs were saying in 1950s- 1960s. People arguing that point please remember when you are critical of the black experience today eventually today becomes history. I'm just saying.

Except not one single person in this thread said that.

 

[VegasCAC]

Telling black folks "shut the fukk up, y'all have it good now" ironically was what cacs were saying in 1950s- 1960s. People arguing that point please remember when you are critical of the black experience today eventually today becomes history. I'm just saying.

The point of the thread isn't "black people have it good", it's that "black people have it better now than in Jim Crow", which is pretty obvious by almost every metric but often missed by Coli posters.

If equality was a peak, and the steep hills and obstacles on the mountain were white supremacy, black people are probably about a third of the way up the mountain since Jim Crow. Are people who say "Why keep climbing, were at the top!" correct? No. But are people who are saying "We're at the bottom still!", right either? Hell no. Perspective and understanding of history is important.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Except not one single person in this thread said that.

Yes but people are trying to define the black experience when said people aren't black. Same thing cacs tried to do in the in the past.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Black Millennials look back in history with a critical eye

No they don't, that's the whole point.....

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

The point of the thread isn't "black people have it good", it's that "black people have it better now than in Jim Crow", which is pretty obvious by almost every metric but often missed by Coli posters.

If equality was a peak, and the steep hills and obstacles on the mountain were white supremacy, black people are probably about a third of the way up the mountain since Jim Crow. Are people who say "Why keep climbing, were at the top!" correct? No. But are people who are saying "We're at the bottom still!", right either? Hell no. Perspective and understanding of history is important.

If that's what they see as there reality then ok. If they see themselves at the bottom who are you to say they are wrong? A poor black male raised by a single mother in a crime ridden area sees a black unified past, Is it that far fetch for him to believe that he is at the bottom? He has no access to employment opportunities or great education. Plus he doesn't have family unit like the past. Black people have rights that they once didn't have. I get it. I just don't understand why are we asking black people to climb mountians when it was a cac that put the mountain there in the first place? My thing is, I think we are at the point were we need to start asking white people to correct themselves. white people need to do the work of unlearning and breaking down 500 years of systemic white supremacy and scientific racism within themselves. The thought of black people doing it alone is crazy. Yet we aren't seeing that thus you get black people who believe white people aren't changing and integration was a failure thus we were better off segregated, like in the past.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

A poor black male raised by a single mother in a crime ridden area sees a black unified past

What lens is he looking through that shows him a "black unified" past?

 

[Wild self]

The problem is, black families back then only had a handful of people jn their community that lived The Black Wallstreet lifestyle. At least the majority of black folk were living in poverty and in terror with the KKK running wild, even worse than now.

Integration could have worked for us economically for black folk with increasing our business exposure to mainstream America, just like how the Jewish did with theirs. But we played our cards wrong.

 

[Wild self]

The statement is being over simplified.

When people say things were better for blacks during Jim Crow they're not referring to the social or economical status. They're referring to the intangibles. To the things that can't be measured.

Since racism was overt, more people were aware of it and behaved accordingly. There weren't as many "new blacks". Since we were segregated we had to depend upon each other more. Which caused us to have a stronger sense of community.

Since Red Lobster didn't want our patronage, we went to sister Emma kitchen and supported her with payment or barter.

Nearly every black person back then knew a cac would stab them in the back first chance they got.

But why does it take a forced law called segregation to support black owned businesses? why can we support each other out of FREE WILL? It seemed like we just tolerated one another, not really loved each other back then because we were forced to.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

But why does it take a forced law called segregation to support black owned businesses? why can we support each other out of FREE WILL? It seemed like we just tolerated one another, not really loved each other back then because we were forced to.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

No they don't, that's the whole point.....

Yes they do. They don't see progess within their own black experience or the world around them changing. I was told racism was A thing of the past when I was younger yet when Millennials come of age we are thrust into a very racialized world. Many black Millennials feel bamboolzed. We aren't understanding why the world insist on telling us there is equality we aren't even seeing this supposed equality translate in our own lives. We have the right to vote yet we aren't seeing the progess that comes with the right to vote. We have education yet we aren't seeing the progess that comes with education. We have integration yet we aren't seeing the social progress that comes with integration and so on.

 

[Wild self]

All the other groups don't have laws to foe themselves to support themselves economically. I don't like the idea that there needs to be a damn law to support our own. Black owned businesses should be catered to everybody and make us a world force. Like I said, BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES.