Black Muslims: This don't plauge yo mind?

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They used the word Abyad.... which means White in Arabic.

You are so wrong about this and every post you've made, it's stupid. So you are just a basic muthafukka?

I guess when some is being blackmailed they are receiving a black envelop in the mail?

I guess if I call someone green, I'm saying that they look like a green-skinned person.
 

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Black Muslims, historically, are the ones who tried to bring pride to the Black community and how have wanted to drop knowledge about social economic situations and Caucasian treatment of other non-white Earth inhabitants throughout history.........

You mean they were the last ones.

Liberation theology was employed by Black Jewish and Black Christian groups long before Black Muslims like the Nation of Islam or MSTA were even formed.
 

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You are so wrong about this and every post you've made, it's stupid. So you are just a basic muthafukka?

I guess when some is being blackmailed they are receiving a black envelop in the mail?

I guess if I call someone green, I'm saying that they look like a green-skinned person.


there is a word in the Arabic language meaning white that is ABYAD

THIS IS FACT!

calling me wrong or basic is not gonna change anything.


address the point! or SHUT UP and keep it moving
 

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Moors never ruled Europe, they ruled Spain, and parts of Portugal.

Moors actually got their asses handed to them by Charles the Hammer at the Battle of Tours and that was the end of their chapter.

"and that was the end of their chapter".. lol, shut up.

And you need to watch a film by Bettany Hughes.

Also, Spain is in Europe. And Spain along with all of Western Europe (which later influenced all of Europe) was greatly influenced by the moors during their 700+ year takeover.

When Europe forgotten some of the advances of the Roman Empire (which was influenced by....... ) These Moors build, in Europe, The top cities on Earth at the time, hundreds of hospitals, areas with running water, libraries... And made illiterate populations literate. When Aristotle was nearly about to be erased from history.. some Muslim translated his teachings and taught the world. Math, astronomy, science, etc.. was brought to areas with inhabitants that were basically living and thinking like animals.

Arabic was once the language of teaching, knowledge, science and scholarship for a reason.

How do you mention that battle and not mention France? your just throwing sh1t out there because you hate Muslims, and probably all non-white European people. Historians are now saying that, that battle wasn't even what ended the Islamic conquest of Europe.
 

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there is a word in the Arabic language meaning white that is ABYAD

THIS IS FACT!

calling me wrong or basic is not gonna change anything.


address the point! or SHUT UP and keep it moving

you are wrong in your interpretation and your point. But I see from this post you seriously lack understanding.. I really don't know what else to say.
 

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You mean they were the last ones.

Liberation theology was employed by Black Jewish and Black Christian groups long before Black Muslims like the Nation of Islam or MSTA were even formed.

And long before black Muslims.. we thought of ourselves as whatever we were told. Black Muslims were significant in the change regardless of who else 'employed it'.
 

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You mean they were the last ones.

Liberation theology was employed by Black Jewish and Black Christian groups long before Black Muslims like the Nation of Islam or MSTA were even formed.


all this back and forth is inconsequential

fact of the matter is these black muslims left the belief in this savior

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inorder to believe in this savior

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but hold up, it gets even deeper :whoa:


when they discovered both of those saviors were frauds they started dikkriding the religion and culture of these guys

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who are still literally enslaving blacks, and screwing little boys



there is nothing sicker than the mind of nikka
 

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Also, Spain is in Europe. And Spain along with all of Western Europe (which later influenced all of Europe) was greatly influenced by the moors during their 700+ year takeover.

When Europe forgotten some of the advances of the Roman Empire (which was influenced by....... ) These Moors build, in Europe, The top cities on Earth at the time, hundreds of hospitals, areas with running water, libraries... And made illiterate populations literate. When Aristotle was nearly about to be erased from history.. some Muslim translated his teachings and taught the world. Math, astronomy, science, etc.. was brought to areas with inhabitants that were basically living and thinking like animals.

Arabic was once the language of teaching, knowledge, science and scholarship for a reason.

Who in here is disputing Arabic contributions to human progress? They were responsible for key moments of human advancement. I'm not sure who you are arguing against.

Doesn't change the fact that Muhammad was a non-African, white man who kept black (see:African) slaves.

The point of the thread is not even against Black Muslims, it's really against these minority militant Muslims on here who scream "Pro-Africa" and "Pro-Black" and then go onto worship a non-African, and white Arabic leader and culture.

It's funny.
 

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all this back and forth is inconsequential

fact of the matter is these black muslims left the belief in this savior




inorder to believe in this savior





but hold up, it gets even deeper :whoa:


when they discovered both of those saviors were frauds they started dikkriding the religion and culture of these guys




who are still literally enslaving blacks, and screwing little boys



there is nothing sicker than the mind of nikka

The majority of black Muslims aren't NOI, but I will say the NOI has had positive impacts for the most part, regardless of who started it.

Muslims don't follow men. They practice Islam. And as with everything, the message is always more important than the messenger.

I disagree that theres nothing sicker than the mind of a n1gga. And Islam is a separate thing, than whatever cultural practices certain Arabic groups are doing.

Basic muthafukkas just don't seem to understand that human actions don't negate the importance and appeal of a concept. Also that messages aren't solely valid based on the actions of the messenger.

I guess if I contribute to my community, develop financial programs, help people focus on self reliance, and encourage people to educate themselves.. all of that purpose and message would be insignificant because I smashed a few strippers and did coke? Naw, the community impact would still be there, my human flaws would be insignificant.
 

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racism has no place in Islam, Muslims do a lot of fukked up shid but Muslims and Islam are two different things

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) came into a world where slavery existed where it was part and parcel of the economies and nations across the globe. The leaders of Islam knew that an immediate declaration of abolition could not end slavery, but would only create confusion and severe dislocation in that epoch. Instead, Islam instituted a program where slaves could be assimilated into free society. Thus, slavery was gradually phased out from the Islamic society.

It was made obligatory that all slaves be educated. Muslims were enjoined to feed and clothe slaves in the same manner as themselves. It was decreed that if a slave wanted to purchase his or her freedom, he or she should be helped with money and the means to maintain an independent life. Harsh treatment of a slave was declared sufficient ground for his or her emancipation.

Moreover, the atonement of certain sins was declared the freeing of slaves, and freeing a slave was declared to be a virtue of the highest order equal in value perhaps to prayer and fasting.

The Noble Quran commands (what means) : "Marry those among you who are single or the virtuous ones among your slaves, male or female. If they are in poverty, Allaah will give them means out of His grace: for Allaah encompasses all and He knows all things … And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum) give them such a deed if you know any good in them. Yea give them something yourselves out of the means which Allaah has given to you. But force not your maids into prostitution when they desire chastity in order that you may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them yet after such compulsion is Allaah Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them)." [Quran 24:32-33]

In the legal sense of the word, the law of slavery is now obsolete. During the time it carried meaning, Islam made the slave's lot as easy as possible. Abdullah Yousuf Ali's commentary on the following verses runs as follows: “A slave, male or female could ask for conditional freedom by a written deed fixing the amount required for emancipation, and allowing the slave meanwhile to earn money by lawful means and perhaps marry and bring up a family. Such a deed was not to be refused if the request was genuine and the slave had character. Not only that, but the master is directed to help with money out of his own resources in order to enable the slave to earn his or her own liberty.

"Where slavery was legal, what is now called the 'white slave traffic', was carried on by wicked people like 'Abdullaah bin Ubayy, the hypocrite leader at Al-Madeenah. This is absolutely condemned. While modern nations have abolished slavery, ‘white slave traffic’ is still a big problem. It is absolutely condemned in Islam. No more despicable trade can be imagined. The poor unfortunate girls that are victims of such a nefarious trade will yet find mercy from Allaah, whose bounties extend to the lowest of His creatures.

"Under the unique program of assimilation, slaves in the Islamic era were able to acquire all the rights of free citizens, and attained the highest levels of social, political and economic achievement. The Prophet Muhammad actually warned his followers to: "Listen and obey even if a black slave becomes your leader, so long as he should enforce amongst you the Law of Creator."

Thus we read about Bilaal Al Habashi a former slave from Ethiopia who became the closest aide of the Prophet and one of Islam's most prominent personalities. Bilaal also possessed a marvelous, melodious voice and was chosen to call the believers to Prayer in the lifetime of the Prophet .

Then there was Zayd bin Haarithah the slave whom the Prophet adopted, showering upon him a father’s love and affection, so that he grew up to become one of Islam's greatest generals.

In Islamic history, we find entire dynasties of people who were once slaves, but then attained power and achieved victories for the entire Muslim nation.

We read about Kaafoor, a slave from the Sudan who rose to be ruler of Egypt and Syria whose name has since become proverbial for wise leadership in Islam.

We read about Malik Ambar, another African slave, who became a brilliant ruler and was one of the Nawaabs (Muslim princes) of India.

Islam opened the doors of social, political and economic equality to slaves – as a result, erstwhile slaves rose to be Sultans, and slave-women became favorites of the ruler and mothers of heirs to the throne. At times, a slave himself became a master and held freeborn men of wealth and power in dread of him.

From these few examples we can see that neither one's ancestry, nor the color of one's skin, nor the place of one's birth, were allowed to stand in the way of anyone achieving any position or making any contribution in the Muslim world. Therefore, to say that Islam practiced slavery would be to totally misunderstand (or misrepresent) the dynamics of history and the nature and record of Islam.
 

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The majority of black Muslims aren't NOI, but I will say the NOI has had positive impacts for the most part, regardless of who started it.

Muslims don't follow men. They practice Islam. And as with everything, the message is always more important than the messenger.

I disagree that theres nothing sicker than the mind of a n1gga. And Islam is a separate thing, than whatever cultural practices certain Arabic groups are doing.

Basic muthafukkas just don't seem to understand that human actions don't negate the importance and appeal of a concept. Also that messages aren't solely valid based on the actions of the messenger.

I guess if I contribute to my community, develop financial programs, help people focus on self reliance, and encourage people to educate themselves.. all of that purpose and message would be insignificant because I smashed a few strippers and did coke? Naw, the community impact would still be there, my human flaws would be insignificant.



you think like a trained animal
 

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racism has no place in Islam, Muslims do a lot of fukked up shid but Muslims and Islam are two different things

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) came into a world where slavery existed where it was part and parcel of the economies and nations across the globe. The leaders of Islam knew that an immediate declaration of abolition could not end slavery, but would only create confusion and severe dislocation in that epoch. Instead, Islam instituted a program where slaves could be assimilated into free society. Thus, slavery was gradually phased out from the Islamic society.

It was made obligatory that all slaves be educated. Muslims were enjoined to feed and clothe slaves in the same manner as themselves. It was decreed that if a slave wanted to purchase his or her freedom, he or she should be helped with money and the means to maintain an independent life. Harsh treatment of a slave was declared sufficient ground for his or her emancipation.

Moreover, the atonement of certain sins was declared the freeing of slaves, and freeing a slave was declared to be a virtue of the highest order equal in value perhaps to prayer and fasting.

The Noble Quran commands (what means) : "Marry those among you who are single or the virtuous ones among your slaves, male or female. If they are in poverty, Allaah will give them means out of His grace: for Allaah encompasses all and He knows all things … And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum) give them such a deed if you know any good in them. Yea give them something yourselves out of the means which Allaah has given to you. But force not your maids into prostitution when they desire chastity in order that you may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them yet after such compulsion is Allaah Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them)." [Quran 24:32-33]

In the legal sense of the word, the law of slavery is now obsolete. During the time it carried meaning, Islam made the slave's lot as easy as possible. Abdullah Yousuf Ali's commentary on the following verses runs as follows: “A slave, male or female could ask for conditional freedom by a written deed fixing the amount required for emancipation, and allowing the slave meanwhile to earn money by lawful means and perhaps marry and bring up a family. Such a deed was not to be refused if the request was genuine and the slave had character. Not only that, but the master is directed to help with money out of his own resources in order to enable the slave to earn his or her own liberty.

"Where slavery was legal, what is now called the 'white slave traffic', was carried on by wicked people like 'Abdullaah bin Ubayy, the hypocrite leader at Al-Madeenah. This is absolutely condemned. While modern nations have abolished slavery, ‘white slave traffic’ is still a big problem. It is absolutely condemned in Islam. No more despicable trade can be imagined. The poor unfortunate girls that are victims of such a nefarious trade will yet find mercy from Allaah, whose bounties extend to the lowest of His creatures.

"Under the unique program of assimilation, slaves in the Islamic era were able to acquire all the rights of free citizens, and attained the highest levels of social, political and economic achievement. The Prophet Muhammad actually warned his followers to: "Listen and obey even if a black slave becomes your leader, so long as he should enforce amongst you the Law of Creator."

Thus we read about Bilaal Al Habashi a former slave from Ethiopia who became the closest aide of the Prophet and one of Islam's most prominent personalities. Bilaal also possessed a marvelous, melodious voice and was chosen to call the believers to Prayer in the lifetime of the Prophet .

Then there was Zayd bin Haarithah the slave whom the Prophet adopted, showering upon him a father’s love and affection, so that he grew up to become one of Islam's greatest generals.

In Islamic history, we find entire dynasties of people who were once slaves, but then attained power and achieved victories for the entire Muslim nation.

We read about Kaafoor, a slave from the Sudan who rose to be ruler of Egypt and Syria whose name has since become proverbial for wise leadership in Islam.

We read about Malik Ambar, another African slave, who became a brilliant ruler and was one of the Nawaabs (Muslim princes) of India.

Islam opened the doors of social, political and economic equality to slaves – as a result, erstwhile slaves rose to be Sultans, and slave-women became favorites of the ruler and mothers of heirs to the throne. At times, a slave himself became a master and held freeborn men of wealth and power in dread of him.

From these few examples we can see that neither one's ancestry, nor the color of one's skin, nor the place of one's birth, were allowed to stand in the way of anyone achieving any position or making any contribution in the Muslim world. Therefore, to say that Islam practiced slavery would be to totally misunderstand (or misrepresent) the dynamics of history and the nature and record of Islam.


this is getting out of hand now


like i said, there is nothing sicker than the mind of nikka


you will defend your master at all costs


reasoning and logic is lost upon every last one of yall



shyt is absolutely disgusting
 

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this is getting out of hand now


like i said, there is nothing sicker than the mind of nikka


you will defend your master at all costs


reasoning and logic is lost upon every last one of yall



shyt is absolutely disgusting

:beli: its you my nikka, not me that doesn't have logic... you reason with emotion and your hate for Islam
 

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like i said, there is nothing sicker than the mind of nikka


you will defend your master at all costs


reasoning and logic is lost upon every last one of yall



shyt is absolutely disgusting



Nah, this is how the cancer of religion works. It isn't just an African thing. You have Indian Muslims in here defending their white Arab conquerors too.

When I go back to the homeland, the most hardline defendants of Catholicism and Christianity happen to the be the portion of my family that is indigenous to the Americas. The European Christians poisoned their minds with that drivel.

It's sad. Severe stockholm syndrome.
 
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