How do black men actively maintain gender inequality?Black men may get paid more on average than black women, but black women are a lot more likely to be hired on average. You have to get the job before you can even get paid.
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How do black men actively maintain gender inequality?Black men may get paid more on average than black women, but black women are a lot more likely to be hired on average. You have to get the job before you can even get paid.
Please explain to me. How do black men as a whole "help maintain" the inequality.
We didn't create the situation, we are rarely in a position of power to make the change. We use the power we do have to overwhelmingly vote for people who do support women's rights.
So how are black men "maintaining" income inequality?
Diondon
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Do these stats include the rappers, ballplayers etc?
Income inequality relates to employment, so that's different from other forms of inequality- most Black men don't own the businesses, though certainly that inequality is present even when they do. If you mean inequality more generally, though, I don't know what you mean by "as a whole," but in Black communities, there aren't white men going around specifically reinforcing it... In the Civil Rights movement, in the Black Panther Party, etc, it wasn't white men keeping Black women from positions of power, or silencing their contributions (that history is well-documented)... it was Black men.
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I don't see anyone adamantly denying that black men get paid better (maybe a fee misinformed) and I think every black man in here would love if black women made the same amount as us.
I also don't see how we are helping "maintain" anything. Black men are not enforcing salaries so I don't get what you mean by "maintaining".
No don't move the goalposts, you are doing exactly what the feminists were doing when presented with a direct question.
You said "black men are maintaining the income inequality" and I asked you how so?
And since you mentioned it now. What general inequalities are black men enforcing in black communities.
No, I didn't. I said that Black men are helping to maintain inequality, not specifically income inequality. You tried to make it more specific, but that ignores the larger picture. There are no goalposts to move, because the inequality exists in Black owned businesses (most of which are not owned by Black women) just like in white ones. As for general inequalities, you don't have to look further than the home, but there's also the Church, specific elements of the culture (messaging in music, for example,) etc. And extend my Civil Rights example into the present, too. Most pro-Black organizations are male-dominated, and not simply for natural or accidental reasons.
If you're arguing that white people have more power in determining income inequality than Black men, that's one thing, but trying to erase any culpability in the Black community for gender inequality is absurd.
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Sooooo.... It's black men's fault that black women don't start their own businesses? Even though their loan approval rating is right up there with white men? (Which is a funny point because there are small business grants specifically for black women which were enacted under the presidency of a black man)
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But black women are the main supporters of churches, not black men. So.....
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Ill even bet you that more black women vote/have the ability to vote when compared to black men.
This is what I was stating earlier. Black women have a good amount of power but use none of it for their own good.
This was one of the reasons I felt that list in the other thread was kind of crappy. Legitimate examples of black male privilege like the bolded get lost when lumped with some of weaker points on the same list
The issue goes far beyond loan approval ratings, since there's obviously much more to opening a business than that. Please don't drop such simplistic points. For example, most single-parent families in the Black community, which make up the majority of Black families, sadly, are headed by women, not men (if you're planning on just blaming women for the most single-parent households, let's just stop the argument here,) and it's not particularly easy to start a business at the same time as raising a child.
Can you prove this? Not that I think that's entirely incorrect. Regardless, my point pertains to who runs the Churches and their messaging.
Prove it.
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Black men don't even have enough power to do half the things we're accused of doing in this thread 
Diondon
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So you're during Civil Rights, BW wanted to be at the forefront of the movement but BM prevented them.
What are some reasons you think that might be?
What are some reasons you think that might be?
nikka you posted a bunch of stats about income. Which is what I responded to. You tried to make it less specific when I asked you about your statements.Give some specific examples of "black men" making a concerted effort to oppress women.
I think BM prevented them because it was too dangerous