Drake's point of that song was the biggest waste of a message in years.
Black/Minority Women Goin' Against White Feminists On Twitter :lupe:
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Un-AmericanDreamer
Simp City
My grandmother was the bishop of her own church, this was way back when...60's? 70s? Her sons, most of my uncles save my father got their own churches where they preside over. Black female ministers is not that uncommon, I wouldn't say the black church is like catholicism or anything. Whose fault is it that women don't want to preside over black churches whose constituents are largely black women themselves? Black men pastors know where their bread and butter is, they won't say certain things to their base if they want donations. I would say they're more like elected politicians doing their dance and say what they have to motivate their base. Are their perks? Of course. I just don't think women are comfortable being led by other women, ya'll seem to have your own sort of willie lynch thing. I've seen it countless times.
Black men aren't keeping black women from anything, it's not black mens fault that black women choose not to enter politics or take an active leadership role in many of your own institutions. Everyone knows black women are the backbone of the church, and many of the other black political movements. I feel like there's not enough black women who even want to assume leadership on that level.
Again, women need to make up their mind what it is they actually want to be, because you're not going to become a boss by being a nurse or the president's aid ala olivia pope. Women say they want one thing, but do another when offered the choice.
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Especially when Nikki minaj jumped on the end of it talking about all the "bytches" she's better than
DaRealness
I think very deeply
LOL!
This is one of the main reasons why I don't take part in these debates anymore, because people on both sides always go to the absolute extreme and say the most outrageous shyt while convincing themselves that what they state is fact - and no resolution is ever made and no one is willing to extend the olive branch.
white women supported the white male candidate because they unlike many black women realize they benefit from white male dominated patriarchy.
FYI, that woman in her avi is definitely black by anyone's standards, but it is funny that she picked one of the lightest pictures that woman has of the many across the internet.
What's also funny: Pretty sure a female in this thread mentioned being a Beyonce fan earlier. This is the same Beyonce who has been getting light and lighter over the years, who keeps her hair dyed blonde in weave, and who pretty much has her skin photoshopped to a lighter complexion in every photo she takes.
But it's only black men though.
to add on, the same Beyonce that once said she wish she was born a Latina
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
True indeed....they just need not ride Shirley Chisolm before going that route.
They used her.
PartyHeart
All Star
Black women do not openly degrade and oppress Black men only to turn around and pretend our privilege to operate in a community where it goes unchecked is nonexistent. Nor do we tell Black men that they should shut up for a solidarity we never mention or fight for (or actively fight against) until Black men start to speak up. We are not complicit in the oppression of Black men. When there is any Black male harmed in society, even down to those of them that assault and defame the character of Black women daily (think rappers and entertainers), you find some Black women defending them against racism.
However just look at the response Black women have gotten from Black men when we brought up our issues. Our experience is a laughing matter to you, but you claim the divisiveness is coming from Black women? Lol. And not just on here either, because I suppose I'd expect nothing less from shameless hypocrites who support people like TS (or are uncharacteristically nochalant in defending Black women from attacks like his) out of one side of their mouth and fight for their right to openly put non-Black women on a pedestal, but its evident on twitter too.
PartyHeart
All Star
I could care less what you feel or what you think, you are another one of those misogynists that can be on record saying the most sexist, misogynistic things about women and then come in here and act like you are about togetherness for Black men and women. No, you are pro-Black male, and openly so. You are for the subjugation of Black women for the benefit of Black men.
Offenses against Black women don't even cross your mind or affect your heart the way offenses against Black men do, and please don't try to deny it because its evident. Case in point: look at the posters you called out. You put women who stand for injustices against Black in the same bucket as a Black male who finds a way to blame every ill of the world on Black women and stereotypes us every chance he gets. But its no surprise, because its clear that's how you really view the world. A Black women need only call to hold Black men accountable for his treatment of Black women in his community to be put in the same category of a KKK-like Black male racist. You are obviously entirely about the Black male experience and what effects you and only you, but you call for me to put my race before my gender. Please. You don't and never have and I and other Black women have learned from the mistakes of Black female leaders of the past (whom you also are privileged to never learn about) and won't be used and have our issues ignored while fighting for your issues again.
Your entire post is simply a means to silence Black women's suffering because you feel it "makes Black men look bad", not caring that these injustices are putting Black women in the ground by the hour. You rather deny issues exist so Black men don't have to address their privilege, even if it means being complicit in the misery of Black women and girls.
All that needs to be said is the men who dapped your post, most of which have a posting history full of vitriol against Black women.
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true. This can't be emphasized enough...that Black women are an integral part to the man + woman = child equation. But I def see where ebonykiss and co. are coming from in regards to feeling like some men want to erase them. There are some Black men who do believe that black women are replaceable with other races of women. Those bros need to be checked because not only are they making our women feel a kind a way but it's also a stupid move strategically and it won't work.
Elle Driver
Veteran
As a black woman, I don't feel comfortable with other black women placing the blame on black men based on a system that was created to keep all of us down as a whole. Yeah, black men might have privilege because they are men but it is to a minute degree. What can they really do with that privilege when they are incarcerated at a much higher rate than the men who created the system?
PartyHeart
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What happened to the Black males all for solidarity and choosing race before gender in this thread?: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/men-are-better-than-women.138098/ why are you noticeably absent in calling out divisiveness when comments like that are made all around you all day every day, but you jumped at the opportunity to comment on the one day Black women voice their issues?
And how do you expect black women to put their race before their gender when you honestly believe we are inherently inferior because of our gender the same way whites believe we are because of our color?
And how do you expect black women to put their race before their gender when you honestly believe we are inherently inferior because of our gender the same way whites believe we are because of our color?
PartyHeart
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A bad argument truly, because one does not need to have created the system to benefit from it when it places the group they are apart of on top. This argument is the same as the white feminsts were using, and not any less silly or disingenuous.
I feel like this post is directed torward me. And I've spent countless posts defending black women in all these stupid threads. But like I said before you undermine my efforts by placing me and others like me in the same category as those dudes. When I go into a thread and defend y'all the comeback is always "black women do it to us" and here you are doing it to us, so how do you expect me to defend that?
For one most of them are trolling and don't even spend enough time with the opposite sex to form a valid opinion. And for two quit putting so much stock in what you read on this site and twitter. People are purposefully inflammatory just for attention, especially comedians like the one in that video.