Black/Minority Women Goin' Against White Feminists On Twitter :lupe:

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The Black Male Privilege Checklist

1. I don't have to choose my race over my sex in political matters.
2. When I read African American History textbooks, I will learn mainly about black men.
3. When I learn about the Civil Rights Movement & the Black Power Movements, most of the leaders that I will learn about will be black men.
4. I can rely on the fact that in the near 100-year history of national civil rights organizations such as the NAACP and the Urban League, virtually all of the executive directors have been male.
5. I will be taken more seriously as a political leader than black women.
6. Despite the substantial role that black women played in the Civil Rights Movement and Black Power Movement, currently there is no black female that is considered a "race leader".
7. I can live my life without ever having read black feminist authors, or knowing about black women's history, or black women's issues.
8. I can be a part of a black liberation organization like the Black Panther Party where an "out" rapist Eldridge Cleaver can assume leadership position.
9. I will make more money than black women at equal levels of education and occupation.
10. Most of the national "opinion framers" in Black America including talk show hosts and politicians are men.

Beauty
11. I have the ability to define black women's beauty by European standards in terms of skin tone, hair, and body size. In comparison, black women rarely define me by European standards of beauty in terms of skin tone, hair, or body size.
12. I do not have to worry about the daily hassles of having my hair conforming to any standard image of beauty the way black women do.
13. I do not have to worry about the daily hassles of being terrorized by the fear of gaining weight. In fact, in many instances bigger is better for my sex.
14. My looks will not be the central standard by which my worth is valued by members of the opposite sex.

Sex & Sexuality
15. I can purchase pornography that typically shows men defile women by the common practice of the "money shot.”
16. I can believe that causing pain during sex is connected with a woman's pleasure without ever asking her.
17. I have the privilege of not wanting to be a virgin, but preferring that my wife or significant other be a virgin.
18. When it comes to sex if I say "No", chances are that it will not be mistaken for “Yes".
19. If I am raped, no one will assume that "I should have known better" or suggest that my being raped had something to do with how I was dressed.
20. I can use sexist language like bonin’, laying the pipe, hittin-it, and banging that convey images of sexual acts based on dominance and performance.
21. I can live in a world where polygamy is still an option for men in the United States as well as around the world.
22. In general, I prefer being involved with younger women socially and sexually
23. In general, the more sexual partners that I have the more stature I receive among my peers.
24. I have easy access to pornography that involves virtually any category of sex where men degrade women, often young women.
25. I have the privilege of being a part of a sex where "purity balls" apply to girls but not to boys.
26. When I consume pornography, I can gain pleasure from images and sounds of men causing women pain.

Popular Culture
27. I come from a tradition of humor that is based largely on insulting and disrespecting women; especially mothers.
28. I have the privilege of not having black women, dress up and play funny characters- often overweight- that are supposed to look like me for the entire nation to laugh.
29. When I go to the movies, I know that most of the leads in black films are men. I also know that all of the action heroes in black film are men.
30. I can easily imagine that most of the artists in Hip Hop are members of my sex.
31. I can easily imagine that most of the women that appear in Hip Hop videos are there solely to please men
32. Most of lyrics I listen to in hip-hop perpetuate the ideas of males dominating women, sexually and socially.
33. I have the privilege of consuming and popularizing the word pimp, which is based on the exploitation of women with virtually no opposition from other men.
34. I can hear and use language bytches and hoes that demean women, with virtually no opposition from men.
35. I can wear a shirt that others and I commonly refer to as a "wife beater" and never have the language challenged.
36. Many of my favorite movies include images of strength that do not include members of the opposite sex and often are based on violence.
37. Many of my favorite genres of films, such as martial arts, are based on violence.
38. I have the privilege of popularizing or consuming the idea of a thug, which is based on the violence and victimization of others with virtually no opposition from other men.

Attitudes/Ideology
39. I have the privilege to define black women as having "an attitude" without referencing the range of attitudes that black women have.
40. I have the privilege of defining black women's attitudes without defining my attitudes as a black man.
41. I can believe that the success of the black family is dependent on returning men to their historical place within the family, rather than in promoting policies that strengthen black women's independence, or that provide social benefits to black children.
42. I have the privilege of believing that a woman cannot raise a son to be a man.
43. I have the privilege of believing that a woman must submit to her man.
44. I have the privilege of believing that before slavery gender relationships between black men and women were perfect.
45. I have the privilege of believing that feminism is anti-black.
46. I have the privilege of believing that the failure of the black family is due to the black matriarchy.
47. I have the privilege of believing that household responsibilities are women's roles.
48. I have the privilege of believing that black women are different sexually than other women and judging them negatively based on this belief.

Not reading all that but don't you see how this divisiveness your posting is the same as those you say are oppressing you?

You can't complain about black men not standing with you then spend your time trying to divide us further.

Just looking at the first 3 points your list is Bullshyt.

1. Race is always first and foremost, when it comes to politics in America. There is nothing that black men could fight for that would not help black women.
2. Not true at all black women are very much celebrated in black history books. If you are talking about history books you might read in school, we are all underrepresented.
3. Not true at all. A lot of the most prevelant black rights icons I can remeber learning about growing up are women.

I won't even address the rest of that nonsense. You should quit trying to prove who is oppressed the most, and start trying to promote ways that we can all stand together

 

[ThatTruth777]

Holy shyt, Coli got a c00n problem among both men and women. The white man doesn't even have to divide and conquer some of you dumb motherfukkers anymore you do it yourself, wow. And you entitle to believe in that "woman first, black 2nd " stuff if you want but something about it just doesn't vibe right; its a thin line.


And please... don't take everything these dudes say on here seriously. Its just jokes for the most part and sometime a good breh just don't feel the need to post all the time.

 

[JBoy]

Sorry to take over the thread with my last couple of posts, the check list couldn't fit all in one post

But Black men, if you were asking in what ways Black men oppress women, that list is a start. And before you say "b-b-but we don't have the power to create the system that makes those things ok". You are correct. However Black men subscribed to that system and currently benefit from it, just the same way non-Black minorities, though still oppressed, benefit from at least not being Black (the bottom of the totem pole, according to racial hierarchy). And your continued subscription to patriarchy does in fact help perpetuate it.

some of the points on that list are reaching hard though

 

[Anothergirl]

Sorry to take over the thread with my last couple of posts, the check list couldn't fit all in one post

But Black men, if you were asking in what ways Black men oppress women, that list is a start. And before you say "b-b-but we don't have the power to create the system that makes those things ok". You are correct. However Black men subscribed to that system and currently benefit from it, just the same way non-racist whites still benefit from white privilege, and even non-Black minorities, though still oppressed, benefit from at least not being Black (the bottom of the totem pole, according to racial hierarchy). And your continued subscription to patriarchy does in fact help perpetuate it.

Keep in mind that Black men began to co-sign white male patriarchy (originally made just to benefit them) long before Black women co-signed feminism. Ours was a response.

Not even a Feminist ...but some interesting points made in that list. good stuff homegirl....

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

Just about anyone could make one of those privileged check list if they thought hard enough, privilege is not an absolute. That's partially why I don't take those list seriously. You could take it to ridiculous levels if you wanted to.

 

[ThatTruth777]

doublepost

 

[Mountain]

The Black Male Privilege Checklist

15. I can purchase pornography that typically shows men defile women by the common practice of the "money shot.”

20. I can use sexist language like bonin’, laying the pipe, hittin-it, and banging that convey images of sexual acts based on dominance and performance.

lmao

 

[TheIsleofMan]

I don't see how anyone can argue/have a conversation with a BW who feels they don't have an ally in the BM (and vice versa). A person like that is more lost than they'll ever know.

 

[151_Pr00f]

Just about anyone could make one of those privileged list if they thought hard enough, privilege is not an absolute. That's partially why I don't take those list seriously. You could take it to ridiculous levels if you wanted to.

Iunno seems like nikkas have no problem outing racial privileges. I don't see how her argument is any lest valid

 

[Rawtid]

Wait, how is leadership a form of oppression? So if black men came back into the households, they wouldn't be oppressed because they're men, but black women are? Are you saying that women aren't fit to run sh*t? I guess you can argue on some level that black women taking on both jobs is harder than their white and asian counterparts who's men are in a patriarchal position relative to their women, but then again, black women need to marry patriarchal men if they want to reap the benefits of a patriarchy.

I didn't' say anything like that.

A black father choosing not to participate in the rearing of the child he helped create is a form of oppression within the black community For the woman, It's financial oppression as a two income household is always going to be better than one. It's an emotional oppression that one parent is doing the job of two. It's a spiritual oppression that can really cause a woman to feel differently (badly) about black men which can lead to a lack of support.

The black male in America is already oppressed, so when you add on the "baby mother" issue his financial oppression goes one level deeper when he's already underpaid and now that little amount of money has to go to child support. Non payment of child support can also lead to jail time or a suspended license ..physical oppression. Then the stigma of being a deadbeat father is emotional oppression as well.

 

[the next guy]

Shorty, seriously. Stop

If I was take the shyt I read on the internet seriously, I'd go around believing, every dude on here is a super swagged out pimp with a flourishing career and a corner office of a fortune 500 company....all under the age of 25 who can bench 300 after hooping all day with Lebron James.

Don't believe the shyt you read on the internet, ESPECIALLY not the shyt you read on the coli.

I dont think the coli is any worse then boxden or any other forum of blacks. Certainly not worse then bossip.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Iunno seems like nikkas have no problem outing racial privileges. I don't see how her argument is any lest valid

Naw that list is just a compilation of all the negative stereotypes about black women, spun into so-called "privlages" for black men. Purely inflammatory divisiveness, no real insight on the relationship of BM/BW

 

[the next guy]

I think the last 3 pages show why you can't separate black from women unfortunately.


Also we on here forget WOC = not just black girls.

Time for me to exit this thread though.

 

[151_Pr00f]

Popular Culture

34. I can hear and use language bytches and hoes that demean women, with virtually no opposition from men.

This shyt right here indicts most of the men on this forum.

But when it's time to talk about racial solidarity oh they just Women of Color now

And it'f funny because this is a Hip Hop based forum and a large part of that culture embraces that attitude,