Black/Minority Women Goin' Against White Feminists On Twitter :lupe:

[TheIsleofMan]

And separation is also very powerful tool used by the enemy.

 

[WheresWallace]

Male privilege, Black men use Black women to do their bidding, march and protest when anything happens to Black men and boys but dead silent when black girls go missing black women are brutalized by the police. I remember a thread on here where an Adult WW beat up a little Black girl and the Black men on here said she probably deserved it. Again Black women are used as mules to rally for their causes all the while telling black women her issues are irrelevant.

A lot of Black men want black women to be their mules, stepping tool all the while berating her and uplifting WW.

Please, dont use this site as a barometer of black support. The black people on this site are nothing short of shameful. They take anti-black stances on everything.

It's interesting that you bring up police brutality on black women because I made a thread about the racist cac cops who body slammed a pregnant woman and she had to have an emergency c-section. LINK

Black women get love/support from me.

 

[Elle Driver]

How come you're just popping up on my radar? I fukks with what you been saying in this thread.

Cause I'm a new member lol

 

[emoney]

If anything you could argue that black men don't protect black women.

but that goes back to black men never really having the power to protect black women.

That would be a better argument to make.

But like you said the reason black men are not in a position to protect black women in America (especially) is a result of them not really having a patriarchy.

Black women like @ebonykiss need to realize that if Black men are weak (which we are) then that makes Black women vulnerable to men of other races.

 

[emoney]

well we don't have to worry about sexism and things such as sexual assault and sexual harrasement as much as black females (or any female) does

We have to worry about stop and frisk, racial profiling and police brutality. How many times are BW the targets of that?

Understand this, Black men and women both suffer the same just in different ways.

Black men are more likely to be attacked physically to destroy our manhood. Black women have their image attacked to destroy their femininity.

 

[Elle Driver]

The Black Male Privilege Checklist

1. I don't have to choose my race over my sex in political matters.
2. When I read African American History textbooks, I will learn mainly about black men.
3. When I learn about the Civil Rights Movement & the Black Power Movements, most of the leaders that I will learn about will be black men.
4. I can rely on the fact that in the near 100-year history of national civil rights organizations such as the NAACP and the Urban League, virtually all of the executive directors have been male.
5. I will be taken more seriously as a political leader than black women.
6. Despite the substantial role that black women played in the Civil Rights Movement and Black Power Movement, currently there is no black female that is considered a "race leader".
7. I can live my life without ever having read black feminist authors, or knowing about black women's history, or black women's issues.
8. I can be a part of a black liberation organization like the Black Panther Party where an "out" rapist Eldridge Cleaver can assume leadership position.
9. I will make more money than black women at equal levels of education and occupation.
10. Most of the national "opinion framers" in Black America including talk show hosts and politicians are men.

Beauty
11. I have the ability to define black women's beauty by European standards in terms of skin tone, hair, and body size. In comparison, black women rarely define me by European standards of beauty in terms of skin tone, hair, or body size.
12. I do not have to worry about the daily hassles of having my hair conforming to any standard image of beauty the way black women do.
13. I do not have to worry about the daily hassles of being terrorized by the fear of gaining weight. In fact, in many instances bigger is better for my sex.
14. My looks will not be the central standard by which my worth is valued by members of the opposite sex.

Sex & Sexuality
15. I can purchase pornography that typically shows men defile women by the common practice of the "money shot.”
16. I can believe that causing pain during sex is connected with a woman's pleasure without ever asking her.
17. I have the privilege of not wanting to be a virgin, but preferring that my wife or significant other be a virgin.
18. When it comes to sex if I say "No", chances are that it will not be mistaken for “Yes".
19. If I am raped, no one will assume that "I should have known better" or suggest that my being raped had something to do with how I was dressed.
20. I can use sexist language like bonin’, laying the pipe, hittin-it, and banging that convey images of sexual acts based on dominance and performance.
21. I can live in a world where polygamy is still an option for men in the United States as well as around the world.
22. In general, I prefer being involved with younger women socially and sexually
23. In general, the more sexual partners that I have the more stature I receive among my peers.
24. I have easy access to pornography that involves virtually any category of sex where men degrade women, often young women.
25. I have the privilege of being a part of a sex where "purity balls" apply to girls but not to boys.
26. When I consume pornography, I can gain pleasure from images and sounds of men causing women pain.

Popular Culture
27. I come from a tradition of humor that is based largely on insulting and disrespecting women; especially mothers.
28. I have the privilege of not having black women, dress up and play funny characters- often overweight- that are supposed to look like me for the entire nation to laugh.
29. When I go to the movies, I know that most of the leads in black films are men. I also know that all of the action heroes in black film are men.
30. I can easily imagine that most of the artists in Hip Hop are members of my sex.
31. I can easily imagine that most of the women that appear in Hip Hop videos are there solely to please men
32. Most of lyrics I listen to in hip-hop perpetuate the ideas of males dominating women, sexually and socially.
33. I have the privilege of consuming and popularizing the word pimp, which is based on the exploitation of women with virtually no opposition from other men.
34. I can hear and use language bytches and hoes that demean women, with virtually no opposition from men.
35. I can wear a shirt that others and I commonly refer to as a "wife beater" and never have the language challenged.
36. Many of my favorite movies include images of strength that do not include members of the opposite sex and often are based on violence.
37. Many of my favorite genres of films, such as martial arts, are based on violence.
38. I have the privilege of popularizing or consuming the idea of a thug, which is based on the violence and victimization of others with virtually no opposition from other men.

Attitudes/Ideology
39. I have the privilege to define black women as having "an attitude" without referencing the range of attitudes that black women have.
40. I have the privilege of defining black women's attitudes without defining my attitudes as a black man.
41. I can believe that the success of the black family is dependent on returning men to their historical place within the family, rather than in promoting policies that strengthen black women's independence, or that provide social benefits to black children.
42. I have the privilege of believing that a woman cannot raise a son to be a man.
43. I have the privilege of believing that a woman must submit to her man.
44. I have the privilege of believing that before slavery gender relationships between black men and women were perfect.
45. I have the privilege of believing that feminism is anti-black.
46. I have the privilege of believing that the failure of the black family is due to the black matriarchy.
47. I have the privilege of believing that household responsibilities are women's roles.
48. I have the privilege of believing that black women are different sexually than other women and judging them negatively based on this belief.

This list is mostly legit cause black men do call us disparaging names (pushed even further by "hip hop culture"), claim we have too much of an attitude, ain't gotta worry about wearing something revealing and someone forcing themselves on you. And the hierarchy when it comes to beauty, you gotta fit some impossible beauty standard that fits a white woman but somehow fits a black woman. I don't know why the majority of y'all are dismissing it when its mostly true.

 

[Supercoolmayo]

There's a lot of hurt and pain in this thread. Black men and black women can't even get together in unity to shyt on CACs without turning on each other.

Sad but true, I don't know how people can't see the black women as oppressed

Their Black (Seen as the bane of society) and women (Always seen as second class)

We both have it bad, why are we competing for who has it worse?

 

[Anothergirl]

I think the last 3 pages show why you can't separate black from women unfortunately.

Ding Ding Ding. and MEN trying to tell us as WOMEN (when they haven't walked in our shoes) that our daily experiences with sexism is somehow less important than our experiences with racism is just insulting and transparently self serving.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

BM have perks: SPORTS. one track to ticket to sucess. BW don't have that.

Is there a comparable market for proffessional woman's sports?

 

[emoney]

Not reading all that but don't you see how this divisiveness your posting is the same as those you say are oppressing you?

You can't complain about black men not standing with you then spend your time trying to divide us further.

Just looking at the first 3 points your list is Bullshyt.

1. Race is always first and foremost, when it comes to politics in America. There is nothing that black men could fight for that would not help black women.
2. Not true at all black women are very much celebrated in black history books. If you are talking about history books you might read in school, we are all underrepresented.
3. Not true at all. A lot of the most prevelant black rights icons I can remeber learning about growing up are women.

I won't even address the rest of that nonsense. You should quit trying to prove who is oppressed the most, and start trying to promote ways that we can all stand together

Exactly! Black Men (and men in general) are expected to be protectors and providers so naturally if we are heading our households and present within the family structure everything we get is going to trickle down to the women and children. If were successful the whole clan is going to eat.

 

[JBoy]

This list is mostly legit cause black men do call us disparaging names (pushed even further by "hip hop culture"), claim we have too much of an attitude, ain't gotta worry about wearing something revealing and someone forcing themselves on you. And the hierarchy when it comes to beauty, you gotta fit some impossible beauty standard that fits a white woman but somehow fits a black woman. I don't know why the majority of y'all are dismissing it when its mostly true.

a large amount of it is true but some of the points on that list are terrible (like being mad that male sports have predominantly male announcers)

 

[TheIsleofMan]

I haven't gone through this entire thread but what are you BW trying to accomplish? Equal pay? Equal rights? You believe the WM is going to give you that (because he controls all, him and money)? Are you going to take it? If so, how? Do you even care about the Black family or is it all about the BW? Do you believe the WM will accept you (or are you even looking for that)? I'll tell you, you won't be accepted. Ever. You can be the smartest, prettiest woman in the office but you'll always be a N*****, even to your loving boyfriend or husband because love is temporary for most.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

This list is mostly legit cause black men do call us disparaging names (pushed even further by "hip hop culture"), claim we have too much of an attitude, ain't gotta worry about wearing something revealing and someone forcing themselves on you. And the hierarchy when it comes to beauty, you gotta fit some impossible beauty standard that fits a white woman but somehow fits a black woman. I don't know why the majority of y'all are dismissing it when its mostly true.

Because nothing on that list is a "privelage" for black men.

Black women purchase more misogynistic rap music then men. Black men are painted as thugs, that ain't about shyt. We have to worry about wearing hoodies or we might get shot. And we have to fit in to "beauty" standards as well if we want to find a mate.

Would you call these things "privlages" for black women?

 

[Yinny]

*subs for later reading*

 

[Elle Driver]

a large amount of it is true but some of the points on that list are terrible (like being mad that male sports have predominantly male announcers)

I think it's just general male privilege mixed with some racial subtleties as well.