Black/Minority Women Goin' Against White Feminists On Twitter :lupe:

[emoney]

Black women are black women 100% of the time no point in separating it to Black first or women first,although black women face issues that ww can relate to and other issues bm can relate to , there are certain issues that are unique to black women just like there are issues unique to Black men etc

I agree.

 

[ThatTruth777]

Popular Culture

34. I can hear and use language bytches and hoes that demean women, with virtually no opposition from men.

This shyt right here indicts most of the men on this forum.

But when it's time to talk about racial solidarity oh they just Women of Color now

And it'f funny because this is a Hip Hop based forum and a large part of that culture embraces that attitude,

But women use that language too. And some women are some bytches/hoes, women know this too - word 2 Pac. Hell, you got male bytches as well, but dudes just call them fakkits , so I guess that's a form of male on male oppression? I'm not defending calling a woman such negative terms though because I never have, I know yall sensitive and what not so I don't go there.

That list got a lot of flaws.

 

[Elle Driver]

Because nothing on that list is a "privelage" for black men.

Black women purchase more misogynistic rap music then men. Black men are painted as thugs, that ain't about shyt. We have to worry about wearing hoodies or we might get shot. And we have to fit in to "beauty" standards as well if we want to find a mate.

Would you call these things "privlages" for black women.

I don't even get how you could argue that black women buy more rap music than men and that disregards all black male privilege in hip hop.

We gon go there now, please name all of the relevant females in hip hop right now? Ones that are selling records, have number ones, that people actually pay attention to that don't have some type of male endorsement. I'll wait.

P.S. What's the most disparaging thing a black woman could say to a black man? You got a little dikk? Seriously listen to yourself, you sound ridiculous.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

They're starting to see the Matrix for what it really is.




Rise above, sis

Rise above

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

There's a lot of hurt and pain in this thread. Black men and black women can't even get together in unity to shyt on CACs without turning on each other.

I've been saying this for the longest man.....We are in deep shyt, for real.....A lot of black men and woman subconsciously hate one another, and theyn't even know it..:rocko:

 

[kermit da hustla]

This list is mostly legit cause black men do call us disparaging names (pushed even further by "hip hop culture"), claim we have too much of an attitude, ain't gotta worry about wearing something revealing and someone forcing themselves on you. And the hierarchy when it comes to beauty, you gotta fit some impossible beauty standard that fits a white woman but somehow fits a black woman. I don't know why the majority of y'all are dismissing it when its mostly true.

What impossible beauty standard? All I ask is not to wear a weave and keep your body in good shape. If you think that's demanding a white women standard of you, that's your problem.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

You don't think most black households being led by single mother isn't a form of oppression within the black community?

No, that's not a form of oppression. Oppression is prolonged or cruel treatment or control by a superior group. A single mother raising her children is not being oppressed by a black man. She made a concious decision to have children with a man who did not have the character traits required to be a father. That's someone making irresponsible decisions (the man and the women), but that is not oppression.

Oppression is when the US government decided that men were not allowed to be in the household if the women needed any form of public assistance. Tha oppression was then enforced by social workers and law enforcement.

 

[Darts]

The Black Male Privilege Checklist

1. I don't have to choose my race over my sex in political matters.
2. When I read African American History textbooks, I will learn mainly about black men.
3. When I learn about the Civil Rights Movement & the Black Power Movements, most of the leaders that I will learn about will be black men.
4. I can rely on the fact that in the near 100-year history of national civil rights organizations such as the NAACP and the Urban League, virtually all of the executive directors have been male.
5. I will be taken more seriously as a political leader than black women.
6. Despite the substantial role that black women played in the Civil Rights Movement and Black Power Movement, currently there is no black female that is considered a "race leader".
7. I can live my life without ever having read black feminist authors, or knowing about black women's history, or black women's issues.
8. I can be a part of a black liberation organization like the Black Panther Party where an "out" rapist Eldridge Cleaver can assume leadership position.
9. I will make more money than black women at equal levels of education and occupation.
10. Most of the national "opinion framers" in Black America including talk show hosts and politicians are men.

Beauty
11. I have the ability to define black women's beauty by European standards in terms of skin tone, hair, and body size. In comparison, black women rarely define me by European standards of beauty in terms of skin tone, hair, or body size.
12. I do not have to worry about the daily hassles of having my hair conforming to any standard image of beauty the way black women do.
13. I do not have to worry about the daily hassles of being terrorized by the fear of gaining weight. In fact, in many instances bigger is better for my sex.
14. My looks will not be the central standard by which my worth is valued by members of the opposite sex.

Sex & Sexuality
15. I can purchase pornography that typically shows men defile women by the common practice of the "money shot.”
16. I can believe that causing pain during sex is connected with a woman's pleasure without ever asking her.
17. I have the privilege of not wanting to be a virgin, but preferring that my wife or significant other be a virgin.
18. When it comes to sex if I say "No", chances are that it will not be mistaken for “Yes".
19. If I am raped, no one will assume that "I should have known better" or suggest that my being raped had something to do with how I was dressed.
20. I can use sexist language like bonin’, laying the pipe, hittin-it, and banging that convey images of sexual acts based on dominance and performance.
21. I can live in a world where polygamy is still an option for men in the United States as well as around the world.
22. In general, I prefer being involved with younger women socially and sexually
23. In general, the more sexual partners that I have the more stature I receive among my peers.
24. I have easy access to pornography that involves virtually any category of sex where men degrade women, often young women.
25. I have the privilege of being a part of a sex where "purity balls" apply to girls but not to boys.
26. When I consume pornography, I can gain pleasure from images and sounds of men causing women pain.

Popular Culture
27. I come from a tradition of humor that is based largely on insulting and disrespecting women; especially mothers.
28. I have the privilege of not having black women, dress up and play funny characters- often overweight- that are supposed to look like me for the entire nation to laugh.
29. When I go to the movies, I know that most of the leads in black films are men. I also know that all of the action heroes in black film are men.
30. I can easily imagine that most of the artists in Hip Hop are members of my sex.
31. I can easily imagine that most of the women that appear in Hip Hop videos are there solely to please men
32. Most of lyrics I listen to in hip-hop perpetuate the ideas of males dominating women, sexually and socially.
33. I have the privilege of consuming and popularizing the word pimp, which is based on the exploitation of women with virtually no opposition from other men.
34. I can hear and use language bytches and hoes that demean women, with virtually no opposition from men.
35. I can wear a shirt that others and I commonly refer to as a "wife beater" and never have the language challenged.
36. Many of my favorite movies include images of strength that do not include members of the opposite sex and often are based on violence.
37. Many of my favorite genres of films, such as martial arts, are based on violence.
38. I have the privilege of popularizing or consuming the idea of a thug, which is based on the violence and victimization of others with virtually no opposition from other men.

Attitudes/Ideology
39. I have the privilege to define black women as having "an attitude" without referencing the range of attitudes that black women have.
40. I have the privilege of defining black women's attitudes without defining my attitudes as a black man.
41. I can believe that the success of the black family is dependent on returning men to their historical place within the family, rather than in promoting policies that strengthen black women's independence, or that provide social benefits to black children.
42. I have the privilege of believing that a woman cannot raise a son to be a man.
43. I have the privilege of believing that a woman must submit to her man.
44. I have the privilege of believing that before slavery gender relationships between black men and women were perfect.
45. I have the privilege of believing that feminism is anti-black.
46. I have the privilege of believing that the failure of the black family is due to the black matriarchy.
47. I have the privilege of believing that household responsibilities are women's roles.
48. I have the privilege of believing that black women are different sexually than other women and judging them negatively based on this belief.

I'm sorry but most of this comes off as petty female jealously of males rather any substantial proof of Black male privilege.

 

[Born2BKing]

There's a lot of hurt and pain in this thread. Black men and black women can't even get together in unity to shyt on CACs without turning on each other.

This is what I'm saying, don't you mathafukkas see this is what they want and expect from us? Get it together and come together, dammit

 

[Ain't That Something]

How bad this thread went down the gutter with @bdizzle being one of the few voices of reason. But looks like the white power structure have already won the battle when folks out here have this idea that seperating from one another will solve our issues.

MY final post in this c00n infested thread is that without black men and women their is no black race. I don't know how one can ague for black women and men then run to massa talking points and opposite gender talking bout it is better and expect us to continue as a race. Just say you hate black people as a whole and doing your best to destryoy us from whithin would have been better.

 

[Elle Driver]

What impossible beauty standard? All I ask is not to wear a weave and keep your body in good shape. If you think that's demanding a white women standard of you, that's your problem.

Some of y'all want a white girl dipped in chocolate but with a tiny waist and a fat ass. I'm not saying all black men think that but I've heard it from a lot.

It's nice to see a black male who appreciates black women who wear their hair natural (which is sad b/c a lot of black women don't know how to properly hair for their hair because of the Eurocentric beauty standards they are trying to emulate), wish there were more.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I've been saying this for the longest man.....We are in deep shyt, for real.....A lot of black men and woman subconsciously hate one another, and theyn't even know it..:rocko:

I disagree, cause in the real world, I don't see or hear shyt like this. This is the internet, people get to talk reckless and superimpose their belief systems on everyone while hiding behind a screen name.

It's why every dude is a swagged out alpha male who only bags dimes, and every chick is a lady of class above reproach who's constantly told how incredible she is.

Basically the internet is duckberg where everyone is perfect and can do no wrong

 

[Ronnie Lott]

yeah but the first thing we as humans notice about each other upon meeting new people is not race..... it's whether or not said person is MALE OR FEMALE (initial judgement here). then we notice race second(secondary judgement here)....for a black woman it's a double wammy.

No! NO! NO! When the dominant society sees us, they see us as nyggaz first! They don't say, "hey, that's a black woman or black man" They see us as collectively inferior as a whole. Stop trying to create this huge divide between BM & BW.

At the end of the day we stand on the same fronts

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Some of y'all want a white girl dipped in chocolate but with a tiny waist and a fat ass. I'm not saying all black men think that but I've heard it from a lot.

It's nice to see a black male who appreciates black women who wear their hair natural (which is sad b/c a lot of black women don't know how to properly hair for their hair because of the Eurocentric beauty standards they are trying to emulate), wish there were more.

Do u care to also speak on the apparent lust for white men that some black women have

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I don't even get how you could argue that black women buy more rap music than men and that disregards all black male privilege in hip hop.

We gon go there now, please name all of the relevant females in hip hop right now? Ones that are selling records, have number ones, that people actually pay attention to that don't have some type of male endorsement. I'll wait.

P.S. What's the most disparaging thing a black woman could say to a black man? You got a little dikk? Seriously listen to yourself, you sound ridiculous.

It's well known that women PURCHASE more music than men. It's not even a debate.

Rap music and entertainment in general has always been male dominated. It's just hypocritical of you to claim misogyny in rap music is a "privelage" of black men when that misogyny couldn't exist without black women's participation. If y'all quit buying the music and dancing in the videos then the misogyny will go away. And don't take this as me excusing the men for what they say. I think a lot of rap music is horrible and should not be played on the radio for little kids to hear and emulate. But just like with other issues we ALL have to stand together to fix it.

And for your P.S. do you not see that trying to downplay the plight of black men, you are doing the same things as those misogynists that you complain about?

There are plenty of "standards" black men have to live up to beyond having a big dikk. We are expected to dress a certain way, where our hair a certain way. One day light skin is in one day it's not. Contrary to popular belief plenty of black men struggle with weight/image issues. And the problem is compounded by the fact that its not acceptable for men to talk about the issues.

So just like I told the other poster. Y'all should be looking for ways to unite us instead of driving a further wedge in our relationship.