Black Men need to "Man-Up", mentor these lil nigglets out chea.

[FreddyCalhoun]

3 good black men for every 100 black women

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So I should ignore the people who made the problem, and tell those who have nothing to do with it to clean up the mess?

What's beneficial for society AND the kids is that they live in a household where both parents are around. Every single point you brought up could be resolved if the focus were placed on both parents being in their kids lives.

The boys will have a positive male role model because their pops is there.
The daughters will have a positive male role model because their pops is there.
The household will be wealthier because the pops is there.
The community will be stronger economically and more in tact because the pops is there.

I'll ask you one basic question. As a community, is being a single mother looked at negatively?

Yes it's looked at negatively. I've never heard anyone say they want to grow up and raise a child on their own.

So how do you presume we fix the problem. If kids need both parents, and they don't have both parents, what can I do to help the situation.

 

[marcuz]

Why would I read the words of a known c00n

:whoareyou:

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

what is the definition of c00ning to you dudes.

Dis Right Hurr...

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Yes most of the responsibility comes back to the parents. But I think as a community we have a responsibility to each other. You do too, otherwise you wouldn't be here talking about it, doing what you feel is your part.

Heres my problem with your approach though. You're an armchair activist. You claim to care about the black community, but all you want to do to fix it is spew self-serving judgments of others from behind the safety of a computer. Its tired. Yes the situation is fukked up, yes the father should be there, but at the end of the day we are all black people, and if that matters to you at all then you know helping each other... genuinely helping each other, not just passing judgment and serving your own ego under the guise of "tough love"/"real talk"... is in our true best interest. So miss me with all this garbage... either get your hands dirty... or keep your opinions to yourself... stop trying to have your cake and eat it too

Activist? nikka I ain't no kinda activist. Read what I wrote in the beginning of this thread. Lemme save you some time and quote it for you:

Which is why asking men to "man up" and be a mentor means nothing. The women who allow nikkas to squeeze off in em that quick are to blame for how their life ends up.

I didn't fukk her, so I ain't mentoring shyt

I ain't mentoring none of these fukk nikkas in training. That's their parents responsibility. It'd be one thing if these kids were fatherless because their pops were being lynched, or an illness came wiping out millions of black fathers, or all the black men decided to go to war and got killed defending what they believe in. But that's not the case. I'm not picking up the slack because irresponsible men and women decided to have children. Until that fundamental issue is addressed, I'm not doing a god damn thing to help.

 

[Mountain]

Dont feed the troll you dummy

I can address who I want you hoe ass nikka.

Your too stuck on trying to place the blame as opposed to fixing the problem. Yes women should pick better males and men should take care of their kids. In the meantime it's beneficial for everyone if their kids grow up to be productive members of society as opposed to criminals and baby mommas.

Shaming people won't make them change their ways. Like I said pointing fingers has never helped anyone.

You're way of breh, shame is an excellent deterrent.

 

[marcuz]

Dis Right Hurr...

can't be the dudes who call me c00n love nikkas like chief keef and trinidad james

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I'm saying regardless of if the bytch was mother teresa or the biggest hoe on the block, it's every adult's responsibility to make sure they pick a proper mate. If you are irresponsible and get a fukked up individual pregnant, you're to blame.

I don't play the whole "I'm a victim" game. You're an adult, you and only you made the fukked up decision to sleep with someone of poor character, and you're the one that's gonna have to deal with the mistakes you've made. Not me.

That's the point though. You are gonna have to deal with it whether you like it or not. If the kid grows up to be a criminal and breaks in your house, you are dealing with it. If the kids grow up and make a bunch of welfare babies, you pay for their welfare with through taxes. Your taxes pay for the prisons, the healthcare, the schooling, etc for these people. So yes they are your problem either way, that's why it's called a community because we are all in this together. You can't assume that what other people are doing wont affect you

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I agree with you but don't dismiss the power of mentoring. When I walked into a church this past Sunday(had not been there in about a year) and some of the teenage boys were commenting on my shoes(Allen Edmonds ) their eyes were lighting up to have a discussion with me. They all gathered around me, most towering me, listening to my advice about career and life. They had so many questions about college and these are boys going into the 2nd semester of their junior years in high-school.

Where are the guidance counselors?

What are the teachers telling these kids?

Don't dismiss your influence man. These boys are watching you man whether you accept that or not. You don't have to feed and clothe the kids, but giving a young kid your number and letting him know he can call and ask for advice at any moment is powerful man. It's powerful.

Breh, you know where I saw my first rolex? My dad. You know who told me learning how to read was the greatest gift in the world? My pops. You know who mentored me and taught me life skills and the importance of owning real estate, taking care of family, and being a man. My pops.

Like I said, mentoring is cool, but the fundamental problem is the lack of fathers. Not mentors. Not role models. Not positive black figures. F-A-T-H-E-R-S

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Yes it's looked at negatively. I've never heard anyone say they want to grow up and raise a child on their own.

So how do you presume we fix the problem. If kids need both parents, and they don't have both parents, what can I do to help the situation.

Single mothers, stand proud - CNN.com

It is Mother's Day, and let us celebrate single-mother households -- not as half empty, but as half full of strong women. It is a good time to encourage children raised by women to see themselves as resilient, not doomed. And it is time, today and every day, for our culture to stop assigning blame and start offering help.
The 19.7 million children in this country with delinquent or absent fathers are not all headed for lives of crime, drugs, poverty and prison. To begin: Single moms have given us Olympian Michael Phelps, comedian Bill Cosby, Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.
I can name many more, from my own life, and I'll bet you can from yours. My sons' good friend, Ellis Coleman, for example -- the 20-year-old superstar also headed for the London Olympics for the U.S., the wrestler recognized worldwide as the originator of the "flying squirrel" takedown. The proud son of a single mom.

Michele Weldon
Popular culture routinely offers up hackneyed depictions of struggling single moms and screwed-up kids. And there is no end of studies, many aimed at getting delinquent dads to step up, that show kids of single moms facing an uphill battle when it comes to such things as performance in school, college attendance and earning potential.
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I am the single mother of three sons -- grown to manhood and doing just fine. And I am here to tell you that the reality for kids from single-mom households can be as good as it is for kids in two-parent homes -- better, in some cases. Particularly with input from different arenas, single mothers can envision the futures of their children in a very positive light.
Obama campaign pays tribute to moms Romney sons pay tribute to their mother Open Mic: Mother's Day
In the recent book, "Sons Without Fathers: What Every Mother Needs to Know," authors James dikkerson and Mardi Allan assert that positive role models and an environment of support are key to a child's success.
And several recent studies point to a range of factors -- from a mother's religiosity, external emotional support and a grandparent living in the home -- that can concretely contribute to single mothers' raising productive, happy children.
A study of 1,134 single mothers, published in the April issue of Journal of Marriage and Family, found that those who attend religious services are more likely to experience positive developmental outcomes for their children. In a separate report in February, published in Child Trends, data show that regardless of economic status, ethnicity or education, the single mothers who were regularly offered emotional support had "children and adolescents who were also more likely to display social competence and school engagement," compared with single mothers without social support.
A 2002 study published in Demography showed that teenagers living with their single mothers in multigenerational homes "have outcomes that are at least as good and often better than the outcomes of teenagers in married families."
I have been divorced since 1996, when my sons were 7, 5 and 2. I have found that my faith practices, help from my siblings, and reliable and persistent help from my mother kept my sons on the straight and narrow.
Of course there are single mothers who fail their children. Of course there are good fathers who make sure their children have a chance to succeed. And children with two loving parents in the home can still encounter big troubles.
Beyond that, there are realities that are hard to dispute. A new study, "Father Hunger: An Economic View of Delinquent Fathers," describes the apocalypse caused by single parenting framed in economic terms. This white paper, by Idaho-based Economic Modeling Specialists, describes the education gap, earnings gap and ultimately value lost from direct and indirect labor income to the nation's economy of $60 billion per year.
According to the study, children growing up in one-parent homes are 16% more likely to drop out of high school. Only 14.3% of students from one-parent households will attend some college, compared with 17.6% in two-parent households.
But that is the bad news. I say let's focus on the other sides of those figures, the kids who succeed and the single moms who get them there.
To be sure, single mothers are swimming against the tide in a culture that in its predominant narrative declares our children are liabilities in society, not blessings.
For years, screens large and small have been flickering with images of single mothers as seriously flawed and in need of rescue. In "Modern Family," Sofia Vergara's character, Gloria, needs Jay to financially and emotionally rescue her to help her raise her son. In "Act Like a Man, Think Like a Lady," the single mother character is trying to date herself out of her parenthood predicament. Robert Townsend's recent "Diary of a Single Mom" follows three single mothers who have to band together in order to survive.
But beginning next week, "The Bachelorette" will for the first time feature a single mother as the sun in the solar system of suitors. That's a kind of progress, I suppose. Let's see more of that.
And let's see more success stories. Here are a few: My oldest son graduated from the University of Wisconsin- Madison in 2011 and is now in Madrid earning a master's in translation in Spanish. My middle son is completing his junior year at the Ohio State University and will graduate next May. My youngest son is headed to the University of Iowa in August.
Not bad for a single mom.

Breh, single motherhood is not looked at shamefully. It's like a badge of honor for some of these broads to say "I've did it by myself."

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I'm saying regardless of if the bytch was mother teresa or the biggest hoe on the block, it's every adult's responsibility to make sure they pick a proper mate. If you are irresponsible and get a fukked up individual pregnant, you're to blame.

I don't play the whole "I'm a victim" game. You're an adult, you and only you made the fukked up decision to sleep with someone of poor character, and you're the one that's gonna have to deal with the mistakes you've made. Not me.

Who is saying the blame should be on anyone else?

You're way of breh, shame is an excellent deterrent.

How do you shame someone out of not having kids that were already born?

Activist? nikka I ain't no kinda activist. Read what I wrote in the beginning of this thread. Lemme save you some time and quote it for you:



I ain't mentoring none of these fukk nikkas in training. That's their parents responsibility. It'd be one thing if these kids were fatherless because their pops were being lynched, or an illness came wiping out millions of black fathers, or all the black men decided to go to war and got killed defending what they believe in. But that's not the case. I'm not picking up the slack because irresponsible men and women decided to have children. Until that fundamental issue is addressed, I'm not doing a god damn thing to help.

How convenient...

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You're way of breh, shame is an excellent deterrent.

Single black mothers are some of the most shamed people in our society. How do they react to that shame?

By saying " I'm proud to be a single black mom, and I'm gonna teach my kids the same.

Shame is not the answer

 

[↓R↑LYB]

That's the point though. You are gonna have to deal with it whether you like it or not. If the kid grows up to be a criminal and breaks in your house, you are dealing with it. If the kids grow up and make a bunch of welfare babies, you pay for their welfare with through taxes. Your taxes pay for the prisons, the healthcare, the schooling, etc for these people. So yes they are your problem either way, that's why it's called a community because we are all in this together. You can't assume that what other people are doing wont affect you

Everything you said should give you even more of a reason to make it so that single parent homes are viewed as the deplorable in our community. You said it best, those kids might grow up to be criminals, welfare babies, prison bound, and all around burdens to society. If kids from single parent households will be so horrible, then we as a community should do everything in our power to make sure these types of households aren't acceptable.

 

[marcuz]

Single black mothers are some of the most shamed people in our society. How do they react to that shame?

By saying " I'm proud to be a single black mom, and I'm gonna teach my kids the same.

Shame is not the answer

what you said was a complete contradiction

but from what i see, they get more praise than shame.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Single mothers, stand proud - CNN.com



Breh, single motherhood is not looked at shamefully. It's like a badge of honor for some of these broads to say "I've did it by myself."

They don't look at themselves with shame. But everyone else does. Who's picture shows up when we talk about poverty or foodstamps? Single black mothers. Who's picture shows up when we talk about young men growing into deadbeats, single black mothers. Most dudes won't even date a single mother.

And none of this has compelled them to change their ways, in fact as your article pointed out the shame has given them a sense of pride and they are passing that pride tontheir daughters.