Black Men need to "Man-Up", mentor these lil nigglets out chea.

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And I'm not absolving the dead beats of all responsibility but the dead beats never have a shortage of black women.

If a hole in the wall Mom and Pop Shop with roaches and rats is out selling the Wal-Mart down the street, do you honestly think the dirty shop owner is going to take advice from the guy who owns the Wal-Mart?

Hell no. He'll say the same thing the hood nikkas will, "I'm putting in less effort to better myself and keep my store clean and maintained, and I'm still outselling you. Why would I listen to you? shyt, I'm not only getting more customers than you, but I'm also getting the best quality costumers. I'm getting the customers that you WANT. Why should I listen to you?"

As long as being a "Real nikka" is in-style those dumb hood nikkas will NEVER listen to the educated men about "bettering themselves." NEVER. UNDERSTAND THAT shyt.

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How do you shame someone out of not having kids that were already born? :what:

Im not talking about shaming single parents out of having kids, Im talking about shaming single parent hood in order to increase the chance of deflecting children away from that lifestyle, pay attention.

Single black mothers are some of the most shamed people in our society. How do they react to that shame?

By saying ":salute: I'm proud to be a single black mom, and I'm gonna teach my kids the same.

Shame is not the answer

What else are they going to say? "well damn :dwillhuh: I guess :dwillhuh: i really aint sht :dwillhuh: fukk my life :yes: imma off myself tonight :yes:" of course not, their situation is irreversible so they're bound to embrace it.

Besides, Im not talking about the parents, im talking about their children, they are the ones that matter the most, we as a society should focus our attention on the flexible minds of children not the stubborn minds of adults. If we drastically increase the negetive stigma around single parent hood, instead of making excuses and shifiting blame on one gender morso than the other, we'd have a higher chance of diverting children away from that life style.

Also, single mothers are not the most shamed people in our community, no way, they are our largest female demograpic aswell as the leaders of most black households, as a result they are infact revered within our communities. People that say anything against single mothers get shtd on by us in general, if not by the single mothers, then by the majority subjected to a single parent up bringing.

Most commercial black stars show immense tolerance towards their mothers and complete intolerance towards their absentee fathers, most of the time its "he ran out on my moma/my pops was a dead beat" never "my moma choose to play posum with a punk ass nikka". How many mc's for example do you know that say "fukk my moma because she chose a no good busta"? Right, now compare that to how many say "no love for my daddy because the coward wasnt there". Single motherhood is seen as a potential badge of honor, a topic of sympathy, the mother is rarely question regarding her choice let alone shamed.
 

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Im not talking about shaming single parents out of having kids, Im talking about shaming single parent hood in order to increase the chance of deflecting children away from that lifestyle, pay attention.
So you think insulting a kid's mother, prob the only person who ever gave a damn about them, is the way to get them to listen to you and do the right thing?
 

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Im not talking about shaming single parents out of having kids, Im talking about shaming single parent hood in order to increase the chance of deflecting children away from that lifestyle, pay attention.



What else are they going to say? "well damn :dwillhuh: I guess :dwillhuh: i really aint sht :dwillhuh: fukk my life :yes: imma off myself tonight :yes:" of course not, their situation is irreversible so they're bound to embrace it.

Besides, Im not talking about the parents, im talking about their children, they are the ones that matter the most, we as a society should focus our attention on the flexible minds of children not the stubborn minds of adults. If we drastically increase the negetive stigma around single parent hood, instead of making excuses and shifiting blame on one gender morso than the other, we'd have a higher chance of diverting children away from that life style.

Also, single mothers are not the most shamed people in our community, no way, they are our largest female demograpic aswell as the leaders of most black households, as a result they are infact revered within our communities. People that say anything against single mothers get shtd on by us in general, if not by the single mothers, then by the majority subjected to a single parent up bringing.

Most commercial black stars show immense tolerance towards their mothers and complete intolerance towards their absentee fathers, most of the time its "he ran out on my moma/my pops was a dead beat" never "my moma choose to play posum with a punk ass nikka". How many mc's for example do you know that say "fukk my moma because she chose a no good busta"? Right, now compare that to how many say "no love for my daddy because the coward wasnt there". Single motherhood is seen as a potential badge of honor, a topic of sympathy, the mother is rarely question regarding her choice let alone shamed.

All cases of single mothers are not the same, so you'd be wrong to treat them as such. Promiscurity is frowned upon, unprotected sex is frowned upon. But for someone to come out and say "it's single mothers fault for choosing the dude" there are allot of assumptions you have to be making in order for your statement to be true. If you say "fukk that nikka, cause he left the kids" there are no assumptions, it is a true statement.

Single mothers get praise for their situation because even though they made the initial mistake, they are now at least trying to take care of their responsibilty and if the father is not in the picture, he is not trying to take care of his responsibilty at all.

In summary, both parents made the same initial mistake. The woman tried to fix the mistake, the man ran away from the mistake. Who deserves to be shamed more?

With all of that said, again shame does nothing to help the situation. You say deadbeat dads are treated with so much shame. Everybody from rappers to comedians shyt on them, yet that shame isn't compelling young men to grow up and take care of their families. On this site at last once a week we have thread about how marriage/kids is a bad idea. This is the same attitude that perpetuates the cycle of baby mammas. These dudes don't care about the shame, they just do what they want to do. Same with women. Shame changes no one.

Kids don't take kindly to you talking about their parents. Telling a girl with a single mother that single mothers ain't shyt, will just make her push away from you and side with her single mother even more. Giving that same girl advice, and hope for the future. Helping her with self esteem issues, and showing her how to be succesful will make her want to grow up to be better than her mom.
 

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So you think insulting a kid's mother, prob the only person who ever gave a damn about them, is the way to get them to listen to you and do the right thing?

I'll break it down for you since you're having trouble; if the condition of our communities were such that children were constantly reminded of how destructive and shameful single motherhood/singleparenthood is, then yes, that pressure would become a deterrent.

The kid is probably not going to want to find themselves on the receiving end of an entire communities scorn, no matter how much they love their parent, with that in mind they will try hard not to make the same mistake their parent did, which is the point.

If you still dont understand my point after the latter, please dont respond to me, because im not in the business of helping grown men comprehend text and I dont like your bytch ass anyway.

All cases of single mothers are not the same, so you'd be wrong to treat them as such. Promiscurity is frowned upon, unprotected sex is frowned upon. But for someone to come out and say "it's single mothers fault for choosing the dude" there are allot of assumptions you have to be making in order for your statement to be true. If you say "fukk that nikka, cause he left the kids" there are no assumptions, it is a true statement.

Single mothers get praise for their situation because even though they made the initial mistake, they are now at least trying to take care of their responsibilty and if the father is not in the picture, he is not trying to take care of his responsibilty at all.

In summary, both parents made the same initial mistake. The woman tried to fix the mistake, the man ran away from the mistake. Who deserves to be shamed more?

Exactly, but therein lies the problem, the praise yall give single mothers trying to "fix the situation" gives potential single mothers an exuse to make that intial mistake in the first place, a dumb young brawd would think "well since the community will forgive me, infact praise me, for getting knockd up if i stay commited to the child, i shouldnt really worry about getting knocked up". Without that praise there is less of an excuse for them to be reckless.

With all of that said, again shame does nothing to help the situation. You say deadbeat dads are treated with so much shame. Everybody from rappers to comedians shyt on them, yet that shame isn't compelling young men to grow up and take care of their families. On this site at last once a week we have thread about how marriage/kids is a bad idea. This is the same attitude that perpetuates the cycle of baby mammas. These dudes don't care about the shame, they just do what they want to do. Same with women. Shame changes no one.

No one on this site has ever said "maaan :smugbiden: you know what? :smugbiden: You need to duff a bytch and leave ya kids hanging :smugbiden:" nikkas on here talk about staying aways from making kids, not neglecting your responsiblity as a father.

Dead beat shaming prompts some young men to look after their kids, alot of nikkas dont want that dead beat title attached to their frame, thats the point, if dead beat shaming were not here, the compulsion dead beat shaming creates would cease to exist and our communities problem would probably be worse.

Kids don't take kindly to you talking about their parents. Telling a girl with a single mother that single mothers ain't shyt, will just make her push away from you and side with her single mother even more.

Thats true, but staying by her mother doesnt mean her mother is somthing she aspires to be. The shaming her mother suffers at the hands of the entire community would prompt the daughter not to want to be in the same positon, which is the point.

Giving that same girl advice, and hope for the future. Helping her with self esteem issues, and showing her how to be succesful will make her want to grow up to be better than her mom.

I agree about teaching all that, but the consequence of unsafe sex and single parenthood should be stressed as well, otherwise they'll see nothing wrong with single parent hood, which is obviouse something we wouldnt want as a community. By the way Meech if you reply and i dont reply back today or whatever, its because im busy, it isnt out of disrespect.
 

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I'll break it down for you since you're having trouble; if the condition of our communities were such that children were constantly reminded of how destructive and shameful single motherhood/singleparenthood is, then yes, that pressure would become a deterrent.

The kid is probably not going to want to find themselves on the receiving end of an entire communities scorn, no matter how much they love their parent, with that in mind they will try hard not to make the same mistake their parent did, which is the point.

If you still dont understand my point after the latter, please dont respond to me, because im not in the business of helping grown men comprehend text and I dont like your bytch ass anyway.



Exactly, but therein lies the problem, the praise yall give single mothers trying to "fix the situation" gives potential single mothers an exuse to make that intial mistake in the first place, a dumb young brawd would think "well since the community will forgive me, infact praise me, for getting knockd up if i stay commited to the child, i shouldnt really worry about getting knocked up". Without that praise there is less of an excuse for them to be reckless.



No one on this site has ever said "maaan :smugbiden: you know what? :smugbiden: You need to duff a bytch and leave ya kids hanging :smugbiden:" nikkas on here talk about staying aways from making kids, not neglecting your responsiblity as a father.

Dead beat shaming prompts some young men to look after their kids, alot of nikkas dont want that dead beat title attached to their frame, thats the point, if dead beat shaming were not here, the compulsion dead beat shaming creates would cease to exist and our communities problem would probably be worse.



Thats true, but staying by her mother doesnt mean her mother is somthing she aspires to be. The shaming her mother suffers at the hands of the entire community would prompt the daughter not to want to be in the same positon, which is the point.



I agree about teaching all that, but the consequence of unsafe sex and single parenthood should be stressed as well, otherwise they'll see nothing wrong with single parent hood, which is obviouse something we wouldnt want as a community. By the way Meech if you reply and i dont reply back today or whatever, its because im busy, it isnt out of disrespect.

I feel what your saying. I just think both need to be done. It serves no purpose to tear a person down unless your willing to lift them up as well. I honestly don't see singlemotherhood being praised to the point where it's making little girls want to be single mothers. I think the pride they take is a reaction to the fukked up situation as apposed to being preemptive, or purposely putting themselves in that position. All in all I think our concentration should be on the kids, the only way to break the cycle is to change the kids, and mentoring them is a good start.

Oh yeah and to your point about dudes trying to stay away from making kids. That's how it always starts out. Most dudes who end up deadbeat dads, are the same ones running around talking about how they don't want to get married and they are just fukking bytches. Eventually that fukking bytches ends up turning into an unwanted pregnancy. If its important to teach our girls to pick a good mate, it's also important to teach our boys that "just fukking bytches" is unacceptable.
 

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And I'm not absolving the dead beats of all responsibility but the dead beats never have a shortage of black women.

If a hole in the wall Mom and Pop Shop with roaches and rats is out selling the Wal-Mart down the street, do you honestly think the dirty shop owner is going to take advice from the guy who owns the Wal-Mart?

Hell no. He'll say the same thing the hood nikkas will, "I'm putting in less effort to better myself and keep my store clean and maintained, and I'm still outselling you. Why would I listen to you? shyt, I'm not only getting more customers than you, but I'm also getting the best quality costumers. I'm getting the customers that you WANT. Why should I listen to you?"

As long as being a "Real nikka" is in-style those dumb hood nikkas will NEVER listen to the educated men about "bettering themselves." NEVER. UNDERSTAND THAT shyt.
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And I'm not absolving the dead beats of all responsibility but the dead beats never have a shortage of black women.

If a hole in the wall Mom and Pop Shop with roaches and rats is out selling the Wal-Mart down the street, do you honestly think the dirty shop owner is going to take advice from the guy who owns the Wal-Mart?

Hell no. He'll say the same thing the hood nikkas will, "I'm putting in less effort to better myself and keep my store clean and maintained, and I'm still outselling you. Why would I listen to you? shyt, I'm not only getting more customers than you, but I'm also getting the best quality costumers. I'm getting the customers that you WANT. Why should I listen to you?"

As long as being a "Real nikka" is in-style those dumb hood nikkas will NEVER listen to the educated men about "bettering themselves." NEVER. UNDERSTAND THAT shyt.

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This is ether to black men in that 3/100 because its true. I am in the 3/100 and seeing nikkas with criminal backgrounds pulling quality black women (fine, educated, good job) has me like :why:

Now, I get my fair share but its increasing looking like more Latinas are interested in what I have to offer. I had black women message me on online dating on some

Her: Are you for real? I hope this is not a fake profile :usure:
Me: Why would you say that? :aicmon:
Her: I mean...you are 30 w/ no kids, tall, nice looking, own home, masters degree, a career, and your own business...something isn't right here.
Me: What are you trying to say? :wtb:
Her: I don't know. I'm just not used to talking to someone like you.
Me: So, are you interested in getting to know a brotha :shaq:
Her: I have to go, maybe some other time.
Me: :sadcam:

The Diary of an Honest, Working Black Man :wow:

Guess I will have to settle for Plan B....Ven aqui mami :shaq:
 
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