Black Male privilege is as real as White Privilege

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Black male privilege at work...
Black men have the ability to define black women's beauty by European standards in terms of skin tone, hair, and body size. In comparison, black women rarely define me by European standards of beauty in terms of skin tone, hair, or body size
Black men do not have to worry about the daily hassles of having my hair conforming to any standard image of beauty the way black women does

Stop the bullshyt brehette. We gonna act like black women aren't doing the exact same thing. You want me to find that thread shytting on blue Ivy's hair where the majority of the people complaining are black women :beli:?

We don't define black women by the european beauty standard, white men made that standard and held y'all to that. I know this a troll thread but cut the bullshyt out.
 

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I should be able to dap whatever I want without you getting your panties in a bunch....

I never said you can't dap what you like; I said that your dapping amounts to having an opinion, which you said you were "reserving" until further notice (a lie).

see that right there? The fact that I can insult you by associating feminine traits to you shows how patriarchy works. Women do NOT have the access to the role models, the representation in African American history that we as men have. Black women statistically make less than black men,

I never said or expressed disdain for being associated with feminine traits nor is it clear you even associated me with such, but if my supposed offense at being associated with those traits is "evidence" of black male privilege, then black male privilege is a ridiculous quibble indeed. After all there are women who sometimes feel offended when associated with male or female traits and those feelings nothing to do with black people in society.

BUT as I said earlier (if you read thoroughly and did not just skim through it) I dont really care about comparing one plight to another.

You haven't really done any astute comparing so it's probably right for you to stop trying. I mean, even if there is validity in comparing situations, I'm not sure you're smart enough to identify the main points.

I am simply acknowledging that as a man I have certain privileges that black women

And as a man, there are certain privileges I don't have that black women have. And as a man, I don't have more privileges than black women do. You haven't disproved anything here; only repeated the same cliches and offered poor counterarguments.

There was research from the 1800's that supported notions that criminality was related to skull size. Long story short, people can misconstrue data to fit their political agenda.

The study frm the 1800s is only invalid inasmuch as its method, data and conclusions are. Perhaps that study was invalid for those reasons. If there is no problem with method, data or conclusion, then there is nothing to misconstrue. Honestly I don't think you know what makes a research study valid or invalid. You are just spouting cliches and platitudes: "err, data can be misconstrued". Not invariably nor incontrovertibly so.
 

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I never said you can't dap what you like; I said that your dapping amounts to having an opinion, which you said you were "reserving" until further notice (a lie).



I never said or expressed disdain for being associated with feminine traits nor is it clear you even associated me with such, but if my supposed offense at being associated with those traits is "evidence" of black male privilege, then black male privilege is a ridiculous quibble indeed. After all there are women who sometimes feel offended when associated with male or female traits and those feelings nothing to do with black people in society.



You haven't really done any astute comparing so it's probably right for you to stop trying. I mean, even if there is validity in comparing situations, I'm not sure you're smart enough to identify the main points.



And as a man, there are certain privileges I don't have that black women have. And as a man, I don't have more privileges than black women do. You haven't disproved anything here; only repeated the same cliches and offered poor counterarguments.



The study frm the 1800s is only invalid inasmuch as its method, data and conclusions are. Perhaps that study was invalid for those reasons. If there is no problem with method, data or conclusion, then there is nothing to misconstrue. Honestly I don't think you know what makes a research study valid or invalid. You are just spouting cliches and platitudes: "err, data can be misconstrued". Not invariably nor incontrovertibly so.
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Black women don't have anymore "unique" problems caused by black men than any other women has "unique" problems caused by their own, including whites, Asians, Arabs, etc. Domestic violence is in fact a normal problem that occurs all over the world. The domestic violence rate in places like the Middle East, Mexico and Russia is very high, but even if they weren't very high, the actual rate is more a question of degree than occurrence. Domestic violence occurs everywhere and is not a "unique" problem until cacs like yourself make it so.

Domestic violence rates are high in those places because they have warped views of gender and generally devalue women. Domestic violence rates are high in the Black community for much the same reasons. It's a unique problem insofar as the degree of domestic violence in the Black community is much higher than for other races in the US. All problems are problems of degree. Police targeting isn't a unique problem. Bummy looking white people get targeted by police, too. The difference is that Black people get targeted more because race and class come into play, as opposed to just class. The rates are differences of degree there, too. Miss me with the "cac" nonsense. Any Black man who downplays and defends the mistreatment of Black women using stereotypes and arguments that originate in White supremacy is much closer to being a cac than I am.

One can make the same argument for whites with whites. White people are more targeted amongst each other because they live amongst each other. Russians are more targeted by Russians because they live amongst each other.

I already said this in an earlier post. But that doesn't change the fact that Black men beat on Black women more than White men beat on White women.

@marcuz is right. And the notion black women are targeted more by police than white women is insignificant. Cops rarely pester white women at all, so we're talking small numbers either way. On the other hand, with respects to black men, we're talking society-warping and people-oppressing targeting by the police. There is no comparison between black men and women with respects to oppression in a society ruled by whites who see black males as the ultimate threats. Moving on, black women don't get "beat on" by black men anymore than black men "beat on" themselves. The majority of black crime is foistered upon black men. Where are all the victims?

Cops target men in general more than women for a number of reasons. The matter isn't as simple as saying cops are looking to target men and not women and that explains all the difference. It only explains some of it. The rest is explained by the actual behavior of men. Men commit more crimes, are out on the street more at times and in places where targeting is more likely to happen, etc. So measuring the impact by how often the targeting happens without controlling for those things will only give you an incomplete understanding.

One other way to look at it is this. When Black women do get killed by police, it doesn't raise half the uproar that Black men's deaths do in the community, which is telling in itself. You know Mike Brown, Trayvon, etc, but how many of these names have you heard before? http://www.rolereboot.org/culture-a...girls-without-weapons-killed-law-enforcement/ Where were the marches and protests and media coverage for these Black people?

As for Black male victims of Black violence, that is also a huge problem, but its causes are complicated and can't be reduced to Black men devaluing men, the way domestic violence is the result of Black men devaluing Black women. Crime comes from poverty, lack of options, nihilism, etc.
 

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:mjlol: get off his dikk u swagless faggit, why wld i give my opinion in the bullshyt ass thread and i was fukking with gaara (whose username is based off a manga character who runs a hidden sand village). negd:camby:

Another non-fukking argument from you. I don't think you're capable of writing anything that is unintelligible garbage. It's not that this thread is the problem, the problem is you. You never have any arguments to make in any threads and if the problem were threads, the fact you appear like a fukking moron in every last one of them wouldn't be true. Shut up.

You have no point: Gaara's avatar has no bearing on the legitimacy or illegitimacy of his arguments. Moreover the fact you would criticize Gaara for his avatar while you sport a Kool Aid avatar is too stupid and ironic to consider. Shut up.
 

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Male privilege exists because patriarchy exists. There is no specifically "Black male privilege" though. As a distinct group, Black men to not receive specific benefits as a result of a system. As men we are in a privileged position due to patriarchy. Nonetheless, patriarchy interacts with racism to produce some interesting and troubling phenomena for Black men, such as stereotypes surrounding aggression, etc.

What are the privileges that I as a black male get that a black women don't get. And actual privileges, not dumb shyt like being able to rap about bytches and hoes.

free gucci mane :manny:

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:heh: Notice how whenever you challenge these dumb feminist/white supremacists to define things like "black male privilege" or "street harassment" they always refer you to propaganda from somebody else. Stupid motherfukkers can't even think for themselves.

Notice how this idiot talks this "we shouldn't play comparative politics" bullshyt after cosigning the ridiculous notion that black male privilege exists.
1. not a feminist, nor white supremacist
2. if you refuse to listen to perspectives that counter your own, who is the stupid one?
3. how is this discussion improving the plight of blacks as a whole?


for all those who are talking shyt about my perspective, whats wrong with people having different views from you? what does you saying that I am talking bullshyt prove? doesnt negate the reality. on that note, say what you want, distribute that "work" or whatever, while I continue to work on my graduate level work. fight quixotic online battles while we still as a whole are oppressed.
 

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I feel like what the black women are saying is just acknowledge the fact that you do have some privilege and there are things you can change to help women. We have different experiences and perspectives.

And black women acknowledge that the black man has to deal with a ton of crap coming from all over. Most women think that they understand since they raise black boys or marry black men. But, the truth is we haven't walked in their shoes. And vice versa.

One experience is not like the other. Just try to be understanding. People just want to be acknowledged, respected and feel like they have some support.

Also understand that when someone addresses an issue. They are not necessarily attacking you. If they are, you dont have to attack back.

We need to learn how to communicate and express our issues in a healthier, more productive manner.

Bless your heart at you trying to bring reason to a troll thread :mjlol:
 

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So you have no counterargument and thereby concede. Thanks for playing.
no, i have a job and class to prepare for, dont really have time to educate another person, when they should educate themselves. i concede nothing except its fruitless to argue with a fool. should never have responded in the first place, but that was my mistake.
 
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