Black Male privilege is as real as White Privilege

[Poitier]

You're being trolled

Wow NONE of us figured this out except the few people who think that anyone cares

 

[godkiller]

first off, i aint "f up" or whatever you want to insinuate. I have not had time to read this whole thread so that is why I reserved judgement and my opinion on this thread.
If you cant get your head out of ass long enough to realize that the intersection of race and gender creates a experience for black women that is different from ours as black men, then there isnt much i can tell you.
Read some Patricia Hill Collins work on how misogyny works in our community.

At this point though, its almost useless to play comparative politics on this topic. We as a collective are still oppressed, and that is what we need to focus on. Not trying to compare who has it worse. Comparing rotten apples to rotten oranges does nothing because both fruits are trash. We have bigger fish to fry as a people.

You haven't "reserved judgment", you dapped and agreed with the inane black privilege list and now you are giving your opinion on gender, race and misogny. Both males and females have "privilege", but black male privilege does not outstrip black female's privilege in a country ruled that oppressors whose underlying objective is to step on black male's necks. There is no evidence, either anecdotal or research oriented, that suggests black males are better off than black women. There is, however, research against that assertion. So what is the meritorious base your feminists stand on--and is it based on allusions and conjecture or evidence and logic? Patricia Hill Collins is just another sophist until she proves otherwise.

 

[godkiller]

Why is it so hard to understand that we all have different types of privileges? As a black christian heterosexual American college educated female from a middle class home, I have to acknowledge I have privilege associated with my sexuality, religion, class, nationality, and education. Some of these privileged parts of my identity are amplified by other parts. Just because privilege increases with whiteness doesnt mean black folks dont reap the benefits (and entitlement/a$$holery) of other forms privilege, and yes that includes black heterosexual males too.

I don't disagree that "we all have privilege". The question is not whether we all have varying amounts of privilege, but whether black male privileges supersedes black female privilege, whether black male privilege is tauntamount to white privilege and whether the answers to these questions even matter.

 

[The Real]

you made the police profiling comparison to domestic abuse, not me.

No, I didn't. All I said was that Black women have unique problems, some of which are caused by Black men specifically, and in the case of domestic violence, are not "normal" problems that other races have at the same levels, but considerably worse. All of that is true.

are you saying black women are more targeted in society because they get in abusive relationships with black men?

See above.

or are black men purposely targeting black women to beat on them?

See above. Again, you're taking a misguided line by forcing this comparison. And yet again, Black women get targeted more than White women by police, too, so pretending the targeting is unique to Black men such that Black women can only compare it to other problems is wrong. I am not comparing domestic violence to police targeting. I'm saying Black woman get targeted by police AND beat on by Black men.

i mean, what's to address? who is cosigning domestic violence?

A disproportionate amount of Black men.

and yeah, i wanted a link to the stats, not a 90 page pdf. also, wheres the report for black men.

The stats are all in the link. I can't separate the pages. As for Black men, those stats are all out there, but why should I do your homework for you? It's not my job to prove your points.

 

[KOOL-AID]

You never offer any arguments, you dumb fukk. Why are you criticizing Gaara?

get off his dikk u swagless faggit, why wld i give my opinion in the bullshyt ass thread and i was fukking with gaara (whose username is based off a manga character who runs a hidden sand village). negd

 

[NoMoreWhiteWoman2020]

You haven't "reserved judgment", you dapped and agreed with the inane black privilege list and now you are giving your opinion on gender, race and misogny. Both males and females have "privilege", but black male privilege does not outstrip black female's privilege in a country ruled that oppressors whose underlying objective is to step on black male's necks. There is no evidence, either anecdotal or research oriented, that suggests black males are better off than black women. There is, however, research against that assertion. So what is the meritorious base your feminists stand on--and is it based on allusions and conjecture or evidence and logic? Patricia Hill Collins is just another sophist until she proves otherwise.

I should be able to dap whatever I want without you getting your panties in a bunch....

see that right there? The fact that I can insult you by associating feminine traits to you shows how patriarchy works. Women do NOT have the access to the role models, the representation in African American history that we as men have. Black women statistically make less than black men,

BUT as I said earlier (if you read thoroughly and did not just skim through it) I dont really care about comparing one plight to another. I am simply acknowledging that as a man I have certain privileges that black women dont, but we need to be worrying about improving the plight of the collective instead of debating frivolous issues.

There was research from the 1800's that supported notions that criminality was related to skull size. Long story short, people can misconstrue data to fit their political agenda.

THE ONE THING I WOULD ASK YALL WHO DONT BELIEVE THIS, TO GO AND TALK WITH A REAL LIFE BLACK FEMALE ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE. SEE THEIR PERSPECTIVE. YOU MIGHT NOT AGREE BUT AT LEAST HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVE BEFORE YOU JUDGE.

 

[NobodyReally]

I don't disagree that "we all have privilege". The question is not whether we all have varying amounts of privilege, but whether black male privileges supersedes black female privilege, whether black male privilege is tauntamount to white privilege and whether the answers to these questions even matter.

It matters because when we dont acknowledge privilege it becomes entitlement & bigotry and blocks communication. It also matters because when black privilege (regardless of gender) goes unckecked it can be used as a tool by white supremacy to abuse and degrade our own.

I definitely think its possible that black males and black females have privilege over the other depending on the context. Context dictates who is privileged. But first we have to acknowledge it.

 

[godkiller]

No, I didn't. All I said was that Black women have unique problems, some of which are caused by Black men specifically, and in the case of domestic violence, are not "normal" problems that other races have at the same levels, but considerably worse. All of that is true.

Black women don't have anymore "unique" problems caused by black men than any other women has "unique" problems caused by their own, including whites, Asians, Arabs, etc. Domestic violence is in fact a normal problem that occurs all over the world. The domestic violence rate in places like the Middle East, Mexico and Russia is very high, but even if they weren't very high, the actual rate is more a question of degree than occurrence. Domestic violence occurs everywhere and is not a "unique" problem until cacs like yourself make it so.

See above.

One can make the same argument for whites with whites. White people are more targeted amongst each other because they live amongst each other. Russians are more targeted by Russians because they live amongst each other.

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See above. Again, you're taking a misguided line by forcing this comparison. And yet again, Black women get targeted more than White women by police, too, so pretending the targeting is unique to Black men such that Black women can only compare it to other problems is wrong. I am not comparing domestic violence to police targeting. I'm saying Black woman get targeted by police AND beat on by Black men.

@marcuz is right. And the notion black women are targeted more by police than white women is insignificant. Cops rarely pester white women at all, so we're talking small numbers either way. On the other hand, with respects to black men, we're talking society-warping and people-oppressing targeting by the police. There is no comparison between black men and women with respects to oppression in a society ruled by whites who see black males as the ultimate threats. Moving on, black women don't get "beat on" by black men anymore than black men "beat on" themselves. The majority of black crime is foistered upon black men. Where are all the victims?

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I wanna say good job on the troll thread, but this topic has been done a million times @Broke Wave.

4/10 for originality
9/10 for execution
7/10 overall, not bad

 

[Gravity]

first off, i aint "f up" or whatever you want to insinuate. I have not had time to read this whole thread so that is why I reserved judgement and my opinion on this thread.
If you cant get your head out of ass long enough to realize that the intersection of race and gender creates a experience for black women that is different from ours as black men, then there isnt much i can tell you.
Read some Patricia Hill Collins work on how misogyny works in our community.

At this point though, its almost useless to play comparative politics on this topic. We as a collective are still oppressed, and that is what we need to focus on. Not trying to compare who has it worse. Comparing rotten apples to rotten oranges does nothing because both fruits are trash. We have bigger fish to fry as a people.

Notice how whenever you challenge these dumb feminist/white supremacists to define things like "black male privilege" or "street harassment" they always refer you to propaganda from somebody else. Stupid motherfukkers can't even think for themselves.

Notice how this idiot talks this "we shouldn't play comparative politics" bullshyt after cosigning the ridiculous notion that black male privilege exists.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Oh really? I thought the reason so many black women was in poverty because of a system of racism that directly affect economic growth.

You actually had a decent rebuttal, I'm shocked

 

[Mowgli]

It's real like it exists but it's no where near equal like black males have the power to stop the black woman from progressing.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

you forgot our biggest expense, women.

you ain't never lied breh

 

[KOohbt]

Not 1 privilege was named in all these pages.

 

[William F. Russell]

White Male Privilege = White Supremacy. I'm not benefiting from that program, no matter what you want to call it in pursuit of a platinum thread. You're smarter than this.

Don't give the troll that much credit.