Black Male Patriarchy So Bad That Sub-Saharan Africa Has Highest Female Entrepreneurship in World

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Yes, white male patriarchy is incredibly oppressive. Historically and still with modern day #trumpset among other things

Patriarchy is oppressive no matter what.

Just curious, why do you look at African women starting businesses and being entrepreneurs and think patriarchy?
 

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You're still tap-dancing around my original point instead of directly mentioning it.
Patriarchy as a system of misogynistic social practices is not dying out because some women are starting businesses.
Its a good thing they're vying for economic independence, but it does not change the social conditions.
You're actually trying to pretend its not a major issue that sits at the same table as femicide?
And I have an issue with MGM, but this is not a thread about how "matriarchy is dead" so your deflection is nothing more than grasping at straws.
What are you talking about. Half the fukking states dont even practice the "social condition" that you are bytching about. The half that do practice it, many stopped because it's outdated. You are straw clutching and trying to patriarchy something that both men and women signed off on as an outdated traditional practice.

Patriarchy is the system. If it died there would be a matriarchy instead. Killing 1 does nothing but create another. This thread was never about whether patriarchy as a whole was bad or oppressive because I have already said white male patriarchy is fukking historically awful and oppressive!
The point of the thread is what has been mentioned directly many times already. Nobody said nothing about male patriarchy dying out, I said multiple times that black women live under the most nurturing and least oppressive male patriarchy in the entire world, and it's not even debatable.

Black male patriarchy has historically and will always allow black women for freedom to do whatever they want in comparison to asian male patriarchy, latin male patriarchy, and for damn sure white male patriarchy.
 
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What are you talking about. Half the fukking states dont even practice the "social condition" that you are bytching about. The half that do practice it, many stopped because it's outdated. You ate straw clutching and trying to patriarchy to something that both men and women signed off on as an outdated traditional practice.

Patriarchy is the system. If it died there would be a matriarchy instead. Killing 1 does nothing but create another. This thread was never about whether patriarchy as a whole was bad or oppressive because I have already said white male patriarchy is fukking historically awful and oppressive!
The point of the thread is what has been mentioned directly many times already. Nobody said nothing about male patriarchy dying out, I said multiple times that black women live under the most nurturing and least oppressive male patriarchy in the entire world, and it's not even debatable.

Black male patriarchy has historically and will always allow black women for freedom to do whatever they want in comparison to asian male patriarchy, latin male patriarchy, and for damn sure white male patriarchy.

You can't expect black people to know about historical African patriarchy systems because most black folks dont know anything about being African. That goes for people of the diaspora and continental africa.
 

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Patriarchy is oppressive no matter what.

Just curious, why do you look at African women starting businesses and being entrepreneurs a think patriarchy?
Im not going to argue about patriarchy dear, because it would be as stupid as me arguing that a matriarchy is oppressive.

Like I've said a million times in this thread and other places. Black male patriarchy is the most nurturing and least oppressive male patriarchy that a woman can live under in the world. Black women have always lead in the black community, many of the things black feminists complain about is cac shyte that they are projecting on black men as if they both dont like under white patriarchy in america and the UK
 

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Like I've said a million times in this thread and other places. Black male patriarchy is the most nurturing and least oppressive male patriarchy that a woman can live under in the world.

This is false and I see you've been given examples of why this is false that you've chosen to ignore.

Patriarchy is oppressive period. Seeking to subdue an entire group of people while propping up another on the basis of sex is oppressive by definition.
 

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This is false and I see you've been given examples of why this is false that you've chosen to ignore.

Patriarchy is oppressive period. Seeking to subdue an entire group of people while propping up another on the basis of sex is oppressive by definition.
Nope. I havent seen 1 example that leads to me believe you can find another male patriarchy that is less oppressive and more nurturing than black male patriarchy.

Please give me 1 male patriarchy that is more nurturing or less oppressive. Saying that all patriarchy is evil is like saying a gun and a stick can both kill you. Obviously it's possible but 1 will definitely kill you quicker and more effectively.

Black male patriarchy is the least effective and most innocuous form of male patriarchy in the world. Find me another
 
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This is false and I see you've been given examples of why this is false that you've chosen to ignore.

Patriarchy is oppressive period. Seeking to subdue an entire group of people while propping up another on the basis of sex is oppressive by definition.

1. Oppression is necessary.
2. Men BUILD and KILL to create societies. That's our role.

What do you feel a woman's role should be?:smugtariq:
 

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Please give me 1 male patriarchy that is more nurturing or less oppressive. Saying that all patriarchy is evil is like saying a gun and a stick can both kill you. Obviously it's possible but 1 will definitely kill you quicker and more effectively.

Black male patriarchy is the least effective and most innocuous form of male patriarchy in the world. Find me another

So basically "yes patriarchy is harmful to women but look, "theirs" hits you with stones till your dead, rather than ours which just beats you with sticks until you're dead". That's a ridiculous starting point to begin with and I refuse to engage. And that doesn't even get into the craziness of comparing the oppressiveness of a patriarchy where the men have the economic power to carry it out as they wish and one where they don't.

Seeing as how you refused to answer my question about how women entrepreneurs is a credit to patriarchy of all things, I don't think this convo will go anywhere useful. Enjoy your thread.
 
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