Black male college gap driven by slower Black woman decline, not Black women gains

[Wiseborn]

As for the hispanic portion, I wonder how things like "HSI - Hispanic Serving institution" played a part in this. Universities literally having a literal federally and private-backed financial incentive to bring in more hispanic people.

Hispanic-Serving Institution - Wikipedia

Hispanic-Serving Institutions Division - Home Page

There's a whole network for this as well.



I have noticed that black women are more sensitive to racist microaggressions. For black men, they keep getting gaslit by damn near everyone and are literally told they are being oversensitive when it comes to racism. I've even seen it on this board, when the whole stop asian hate thing was going on. Dudes were literally told by some on here to ignore asians being racist or something to that effect.




I keep saying that this is why, given enough time, there will be no black community. Black women will be a race unto their own and black men will be a race unto their own and neither will be able to make much in the way of advancement since neither will have the numbers nor the money to make other groups do anything. This is probably what the gameplan is but still.



The funny part is, they already do. I think nearly half of all trade schools have black men, surpassed only by white men but and not by much. I think I posted about that on this board somewhere.

We are in agreement. Back in the day Black people were forced to deal with each other now that’s not the case.

Overseas Black people deal with whoever and that’s why Black Latinos look like they do.

shyt will be the same for Black Americans 200 or 300 years from now 90% of Black americans will be looking like drake or lighter.

 

[WIA20XX]

Lotta folks go to Tier 2/3/4 HBCUs. They have great self esteems, but often mediocre grades, non-marketable degrees, and massive student debt. And that's even if they graduate....

Like I said in the last thread - folks not really looking at the entire picture.

What's the point of getting a degree in Aerospace Engineering, but you can't get the job at Raytheon, cause your grades too low or you program doesn't garner respect or you're not a "culture fit"?

Why spend 80K for a master's in social work, when the job barely pays 50K?

Why become a certified mechanic, only to kept down by school loans and paying them boys at Snap-On and Matco....?

Why push for greater inclusion in places that aren't gonna put you in charge? Give you hiring AND firing authority?

It's not enough for individuals to make those poor decisions...if Black people are going to get out of this mess - it's going to be by thinking bigger than "how do I ingratiate myself into a culture, into an economy, that wasn't trying to hire me".

They needed a bunch of black men to get murdered by cops to even put on the pretense that they care....

Low key this happens to Asians, Indians, and White people - they get seduced into a system where they gotta "Yassa boss" and "We sick"...they're just better trained at those things, and less openly discriminated against. Not that I GAF about the actual reality of them other folks - because no one else does, until they vote in a fascist....

If you go to something for 13 years - you should come out of that situation able to make money. Lotta y'all still pouring the cereal into the milk, much less balance a check book.

If you pay for another 4-7 years for additional training - you should be able to make money, not just have a piece of paper.

That's why when I see cats crash out on crime, keep pursuing hip hop dreams, or trying to pull a Kai Cenat - I applaud them.

They get it, even if they don't get it.

They're at least trying to use their talents and get money from the market. If they gotta tweak an image, cater to certain crowds - they're seeing the lion's share of the value that creates.

Meanwhile The Coli will put non-technically inclined people in Cybersecurity courses, or have cats back in the fields cause the Messicans are gone (that's good money, foh), or do literal backbreaking work in the trades.

Everyone of these jobs - office work, professions, trades, no-skill labor - the person doing the work is the least paid....

 

[Wiseborn]

Part of the issue is right in the next post



Despite having the exact same opportunities

^Flat Blackness at work

She doesn’t really want to say the obvious reason for so called Black American Men’s failure ( even though they make at least 5000 more than Black American women across the board)

 

[Wiseborn]

I mean I dated a woman who had a friend (thick as hell ) who had a masters but was dating a dude that recently got out of prison

She was attracted to the ex con.

 

[King Sun]

People over here still triyng to make this a black man vs black woman thing when its really costs and opportunities. TBH more HBCU should do trade programs too that would bring alot of black men to the table that don't want to go to school.

 

[tuckgod]

I mean I dated a woman who had a friend (thick as hell ) who had a masters but was dating a dude that recently got out of prison

She didn’t work that hard to end up with a limp dikk mamas boy that looks good on paper.

 

[Wiseborn]

People over here still triyng to make this a black man vs black woman thing when its really costs and opportunities. TBH more HBCU should do trade programs too that would bring alot of black men to the table that don't want to go to school.

maybe a lot of HBCU’s should be downgraded to Community colleges and Tech schools.

 

[King Sun]

maybe a lot of HBCU’s should be downgraded to Community colleges and Tech schools.

Some, but definitely not all. My wife graduated from Central State and shes doing well and that's a small school compared to WIlberforce or a Spellman.

 

[tuckgod]

People over here still triyng to make this a black man vs black woman thing when its really costs and opportunities. TBH more HBCU should do trade programs too that would bring alot of black men to the table that don't want to go to school.

You want them to lose their accreditation and become trade schools to increase black male enrollment instead of black men stepping up?

And yall talk about women not being accountable.

When I was in school the ratio at most HBCUs was always like 60 - 1.

This is a non issue.

 

[BigMan]

This is exaclty it.

A lot of these, "I'm just pointing out statisitics" type chicks only care about Black men en masse - if it helps them get a husband - and he has to be the right type of man.

The funniest thing to me about the Howard losing men debate, is that Black women have always outnumbered Black Men in higher education. And those same AKAs is not giving any type of love to Jamal in Engineering, because he doesn't have any swag etc....

As Prof TH Johnson has been telling us - they're creating their own situation over there.

*shrugs*

another thing I've noticed is when saying black they implicitly or explicitly excluded people of African/Caribbean/Latino origin

I understand the need for this but it does not provide a complete picture of black people in America

 

[horizon]

Any "conversation" that doesn't highlight how the school to prison pipeline specifically targets black boys or how teachers of all demographics have proven biases against black boys is not interested in productive discussion

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

She was attracted to the ex con.

Obviously

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

College is the opposite of indoctrinated. People actually learn to open their mind and break free from childhood indoctrination. Only the indoctrinators themselves fear education.

Nikka goofy anyway but he really said that with an auburn avi

 

[TaxCollector13459]

HBCU’s tend to cost more for worst facilities and services. Private schools with low endowments can’t compete with large well funded land grant schools.

Man that hit me hard when I transferred to UH (uni of Houston.)The newish stadium is massive/ you see the nice ass dorms. Like you step on campus and the funding is evident, even the water fountains top notch and automated.Then you see TSU and the lodging in comparison. And I did my first year at a hbcu (Fay state) Shii sad fr

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

The younger kids in my fam are going to HBCUs. I did NOT enjoy my PWI as much as I would’ve enjoyed an HBCU. Having all/majority Black admins and professors vs the racist whites I encountered would’ve made a world of difference as an 18-22YO.

One thing I regret. I graduated debt free and saved a lot, but think I would've had a better experience at an hbcu

From marching band to being around more black professors and professionals. Would've probably felt more connected. Instead of my Alma mater being just a business transaction. Though I will admit, shyt is what you make it at the end of the day

Still met a lotta people and learn some strong lessons, so I ain't bummed about it. Just one of those what ifs