Black Hispanic Juror says she feels "Zimmerman got away with murder"

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So if I feel threatened, and defend myself in self defense after someone is following me and has a gun on them, it's my fault if dude kills me?

Like I said, you'll never understand what it's like being a black man in this country. The bullshyt we have to put up with is rediculous.

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if other party has Gun drawn out your more than likely going to run first unless its taken out less than a foot in front of you and if you have skilled hands can do something about it...other than that a gun drawn out in an offensive stance usually will make you run or freeze not lunge forward at the attacker...not even Bruce Lee would try to attack if a gun is pointed at him from a distance he can't neutralize from

but if George came up to Trayvon with gun in hand that changes the circumstances completely and Trayvon is the one who is defending himself and Zimmerman is the aggressor and can have lethal force used against him

but in all cases of fighting and self defense without witnesses it boils down to he said she said...dont' do that to yourself avoid confrontation completely only fight in controlled atmosphere with rules and clear contest objectives
 

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you cannot say he was the aggressor when no evidence pointed to it ...even when a juror who deep in her heart felt like Zimmerman was a murderer there was no evidence or strong circumstantial to make that sort of claim

the evidence pointed to Trayvon laying the first strike and being the aggressor on top even while Zimmerman screamed for help which is when as the aggressor you stop striking and put your elbow on face and ask them to leave and that the encounter is over with and he will get up and walk the other way if he says ok
point is this...
The issues of who killed trayvon martin was not up for debate. Zimmerman killed him.

The issue was it done in self defense.
Ergo, the onus to prove self defense should have been placed on Zimmerman.

Reasonably speaking I could not say who was the agressor, but given the actual evidence that could be proven BEYOND a reasonable doubt we know ZImmerman stalked Trayvon, even after beign directed not to do so. THAT is a fact. You could not prove one way or another "beyond a reasonable doubt" that Trayvon was on top, nor did the trial ever attempt to do so.

Of the "Facts", the only fact that stand the scrutiny of evidence is that Zimmerman killed Trayvon after following him.

Everything after that is basically not provable and demands you take the word of a killer over a dead kid.

Had Zimmerman been required to prove he was defending himself we might infer other things, but he was not. Based on images of his jacket and the small as cuts he had on his head I'd be hardpressed to believe Zimmerman's story beyond a reasonable doubt.
 

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This was not a circumstanial case. A killer killed.

That's a fact.

After the fact the killer claimed he did it out of self defense.

Now this jury wants the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defense.

Ummm.... how can that be possible when there are no other witness accounts to the event?

What we do know is that with his entire life on the line Zimmerman refused to testify in his own defense of a self defense case.

Zimmerman was more willing to shoot an unarmed teenager in a fist fight than he was to testify in his own behalf.

Amazing. Yet the jury never considered that to be of relevance to the case? Why, because they trying to go by the letter of the law????

Of course, these idiots are going to say that now just as Zimmerman said he killed Trayvon out of self defense.

The evidence was there to convict Zimmerman of Manslaughter. To blame the prosecution is a scapegoating, cop out mentality. I can only fathom how Trayvon's parents are dealing with these idiotic juror comments.

Nobody in this situation ever took time to look out on the dead teenagers behalf. Not the Sanford Police Department. Not Zimmerman. And certainly not the six jurors in this case.
 

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if other party has Gun drawn out your more than likely going to run first unless its taken out less than a foot in front of you and if you have skilled hands can do something about it...other than that a gun drawn out in an offensive stance usually will make you run or freeze not lunge forward at the attacker...not even Bruce Lee would try to attack if a gun is pointed at him from a distance he can't neutralize from

It's easy to say what you would do in a situation. Everyone reacts differently. Still no excuse for the profiling and refusal to back off when the authorities said otherwise.

again, you haven't been in the position where you have to worry about being profiled, harassed, or done dirty just because of the color of your skin, so I expect that you'd never understand.

No beef, but it's not something you can ever understand or relate to.
 

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point is this...
The issues of who killed trayvon martin was not up for debate. Zimmerman killed him.

The issue was it done in self defense.
Ergo, the onus to prove self defense should have been placed on Zimmerman.

Reasonably speaking I could not say who was the agressor, but given the actual evidence that could be proven BEYOND a reasonable doubt we know ZImmerman stalked Trayvon, even after beign directed not to do so. THAT is a fact. You could not prove one way or another "beyond a reasonable doubt" that Trayvon was on top, nor did the trial ever attempt to do so.

Of the "Facts", the only fact that stand the scrutiny of evidence is that Zimmerman killed Trayvon after following him.

Everything after that is basically not provable and demands you take the word of a killer over a dead kid.

Had Zimmerman been required to prove he was defending himself we might infer other things, but he was not. Based on images of his jacket and the small as cuts he had on his head I'd be hardpressed to believe Zimmerman's story beyond a reasonable doubt.

thats not how the criminal court system works...and i know they screwed your dad so this thing doesn't work out like it should a lot of the times

but they have to prove Zimmerman was wrong not the other way around you know this your a smart guy
 

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This was not a circumstanial case. A killer killed.

That's a fact.

After the fact the killer claimed he did it out of self defense.

Now this jury wants the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defense.

Ummm.... how can that be possible when there are no other witness accounts to the event?

What we do know is that with his entire life on the line Zimmerman refused to testify in his own defense of a self defense case.

Zimmerman was more willing to shoot an unarmed teenager in a fist fight than he was to testify in his own behalf.

Amazing. Yet the jury never considered that to be of relevance to the case? Why, because they trying to go by the letter of the law????

Of course, these idiots are going to say that now just as Zimmerman said he killed Trayvon out of self defense.

The evidence was there to convict Zimmerman of Manslaughter. To blame the prosecution is a scapegoating, cop out mentality. I can only fathom how Trayvon's parents are dealing with these idiotic juror comments.

Nobody in this situation ever took time to look out on the dead teenagers behalf. Not the Sanford Police Department. Not Zimmerman. And certainly not the six jurors in this case.

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going ally didnt matter -trayvon was never gonna get justice in that part of FL

the only thing they perhaps could have done better
was make sure the juror was more diversed

Breh ever since the verdict of this case. I'm going to really pay attention to the racial, social, and political demographic of the city I'm moving to.
 

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They all do, including this Hispanic bytch.

And it will soon eat away at em. Especially after witnessing da outrage all over da country, from celebrities, and eam folks in other parts of da world. Unless dese hoes have absolutely zero conciouses, it definitely will.

Anytime dey see, read, or hear Trayvon's name dey will be reminded. Hope their mental str8 up fukkin rots from guilt. :pacspit:
 

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you nuccas is arguing law with these ppl but in their minds their have other agendas. they try to use these laws to put yall down as second class citizens not as equals. these laws in their minds are there to protect them not us all. they want to use the same laws to put black ppl down. there's no arguing with these ppl. they wont "see it". by these ppl i don't mean all white or hispanic ppl. when sh1t hits the fan the good ones have no choice but to side with them. this dumb b1tch is a case in point. then they can't live with themselves and come out talking about zimmerman got away with murder. b1tch you let him get away with murder you dumb azz bytch.:pacspit:
 

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And it will soon eat away at em. Especially after witnessing da outrage all over da country, from celebrities, and eam folks in other parts of da world. Unless dese hoes have absolutely zero conciouses, it definitely will.

Anytime dey see, read, or hear Trayvon's name dey will be reminded. Hope their mental str8 up fukkin rots from guilt. :pacspit:

The Hispanic one yeah, to an extent. But in a month she'll be over it. The white man was made to be the devil, so I'm sure the rest are sleeping fine.
 

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man fukk that , these bytches be dumb , they had a chance and they fukked it up now they feel guilty foh :pacspit:
 
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