black feminism/womanism thread

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Why do you believe it isn't? And for the feminists reading, how is it oppressive? That's the dialogue that needs to take place. With Listening.

It is nature. If black men don't rule, some other men do. There's no point in having a dialogue about this like there's no point in debating whether humans need to eat food to survive.
 

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I don't see whats destructive about promoting equitable gender rights.

And let's draw a distinction between black men's lives being valued and patriarchy. Black patriarchy in part contributed to the ineffectiveness of black leaders, and should be called into question. And when over half of the black families today are being led by women, how much patriarchy is really out there?

Do we really need a patriarchy? Men are just as corruptable as women, and just as apt to make rash decisions out of emotion. Think about when whites say that racial equality is inherently destructive and counterproductive towards a stable American society.

I agree with everything but the bold. Ask yourself why men are just as quick to act on emotion. It's because they're raised by mostly women. Men with a male role model in their life(not the ones on tv) don't act that way, unless the role model was raised by women too.

Be fathers to your sons,brehs. And if you're raised by single mothers show her love, sing her praise but challenge yourself not to act like her (if she's emotional).
 

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do we really need a patriarchy? what kind of stupid question is that. every other group functions as a patriarchy, we are the only group that doesn't have a stable patriarchy. which is why black folks as a collective are getting our asses kicked by other patriachies. the white mans patriarchy, the indian mans patriarchy, the arab mans patriarchy, the asian mans patriarchy, even the mexicans patriarchy--we're the only ones on some dumb shyt, where we've equalized our duties and responsibilities to that of our women.

this is why i dont take black feminism seriously. they brainwash nikkas into thinking everything that we would need to thrive is somehow evil and oppressive. go on, and keep trying support the unaccountable black woman and her puesdo matriarchy, see how far it'll get you.

i know this much, most complaints black feminist have stem directly from black men not being in the proper position, economically. without black men leading an intact patriarchal structure, where we control the economic landscape of black neighborhoods; the black communities problems will continue to persist.

Are you talking gender roles when you talk about patriarchy or just leadership.
 

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I agree with everything but the bold. Ask yourself why men are just as quick to act on emotion. It's because they're raised by mostly women. Men with a male role model in their life(not the ones on tv) don't act that way, unless the role model was raised by women too.

Be fathers to your sons,brehs. And if you're raised by single mothers show her love, sing her praise but challenge yourself not to act like her (if she's emotional).

There is nothing wrong with being emotional. That's a part of being human so to encourage males to suppress their emotions is to encourage unhealthy emotional stunted individuals. It has been shown that women are generally more emotionally healthy due to being permitted to express emotions freely so, in reality, men can learn a thing or two from women (perhaps this would also decrease suicide rates among males). Also, a person can be unemotional and corrupt.
 

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In theory I'm a big proponent of black feminism. We need to empower and uplift our women because they are our primary nurturers, first educators, and our only true partners in life.


But a disproportionate amount of self proclaimed black feminists I meet IRL and encounter online will spew white supremacist, anti black male rhetoric to justify their talking points

many dont do anything for the advancement of black women anyway, all talk & no action. they live for online circle squirts, twitter hashtags, half baked think pieces, tumblr reblogs, and other things that dont help black women


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:bryan:That's all the movement is about,huh?
Modern feminist movement in America? Yes..

Complaining about sexism in comics,men catcalling,men having legs open to wide on subways...and a bunch of hypocrisy.

Feminists in America don't want equality...they want Female superiority...

As i've said before...the modern day feminist movement is nothing but a bunch of privileged white hipster chicks.

In theory I'm a big proponent of black feminism. We need to empower and uplift our women because they are our primary nurturers, first educators, and our only true partners in life.


But a disproportionate amount of self proclaimed black feminists I meet IRL and encounter online will spew white supremacist, anti black male rhetoric to justify their talking points

many dont do anything for the advancement of black women anyway, all talk & no action



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Pretty fukking much...

They fight for white women rights,and LGBT rights..
 

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There is nothing wrong with being emotional. That's a part of being human so to encourage males to suppress their emotions is to encourage unhealthy emotional stunted individuals. It has been shown that women are generally more emotionally healthy due to being permitted to express emotions freely so, in reality, men can learn a thing or two from women (perhaps this would also decrease suicide rates among males). Also, a person can be unemotional and corrupt.

Maybe I should've elaborated more.

There is something wrong with being emotional when making critical decisions. The other stuff have nothing to do with leadership and advancement of community.

No one said expressing emotion was bad. There is a time and place for everything. When in crisis emotions are the last thing you should choose as your guide.

Don't want to turn this into an emotion debate. This thread is pretty good as is.
 

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Modern feminist movement in America? Yes..

Complaining about sexism in comics,men catcalling,men having legs open to wide on subways...and a bunch of hypocrisy.

Feminists in America don't want equality...they want Female superiority...

As i've said before...the modern day feminist movement is nothing but a bunch of privileged white hipster chicks.



Pretty fukking much...

They fight for white women rights,and LGBT rights..

I try to ignore all the noise. The shyt in the first paragraph is all noise I can't get behind. Me and my fiance have argued about stuff like that for years. I'm not gonna change.

I do feel at times they do want superiority. All upside no downside. I think they're so focused on the struggle that taking any kind of perceived short adds fuel to the fire.

With that said, things do need to change. We just have to find the right way to go about things. Me and my feminist fiance found a way to make things work for us.
 

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well if i'm wrong, i'd like you to break it down for me. i think we're all looking at patriarchy differently. y'all see it as one big collective, where as i see teams. you could try to dismantle "white patriarchy", but you'll still have to deal with asian patriarchy, indian, arab, hispanic patriarchy.

and black women are going to have to realize that women of other races may talk a good game, but they arent going to try to dismantle their patriarchal structure.

I agree. This is why white feminism is full of shyt for the most part. They talk so much about destroying the patriarchy when deep down, they know that having patriarchal structure is essential to a healthy relationship and a strong unity between white men and white women. Every other group of women knows this except black women.

Black feminism is just a group where black women blame everything wrong with the black community on black men, demonize black men, and some of these 'black feminists' are even pro-white men at the same time.
 
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i will not support feminism as they are inherently destructive and counterproductive towards a stable black patriarchy.
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I don't see whats destructive about promoting equitable gender rights.

And let's draw a distinction between black men's lives being valued and patriarchy. Black patriarchy in part contributed to the ineffectiveness of black leaders, and should be called into question. And when over half of the black families today are being led by women, how much patriarchy is really out there?

Do we really need a patriarchy? Men are just as corruptable as women, and just as apt to make rash decisions out of emotion. Think about when whites say that racial equality is inherently destructive and counterproductive towards a stable American society.
Still patriarchy is not just a term for male leadership...it's an actual component in a method for a productive society. A major problem with the black community is societies consistent belittling of the importance of the black males role in the family. Whether it be unemployment issues, or being absent and replaced by government welfare assistance...I would agree there is a concerted effort to raise black children absent their fathers. The lack of patriarchy (currently in the black community) you speak of is a symptom of this corrupt system we live in. Still, a patriarchy is the natural order of functional human family life. Feminism many times doesn't support this. If there is no patriarchy what natural role would you have men play instead. This all correlates to the rise in lbgt trends:francis:
 
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