Black family in Georgia passed down a song through the centuries after slavery. Researchers linked song to Mende tribe in West Africa.

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Black people think its empowering to soley claim Africa and Egypt,being the jews etc.


Meanwhile the European like "Good thing they dont claim indeginous,this land to expensive to give a piece back:whew:"
Again you can claim anything. But you can't prove it, not a shred of evidence. Reality don't work like that. Europeans are not worried about your baseless claims because you decided you were a native. What type of an adult has such a fantastic child like mind? :skip:

With that type of logic I could claim your house and take it. No title deed nothing. Who cares about proof? :mjlol:
 

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They're insane.
The Moor thing is particularly true. As around 25% of the enslaved was Muslim from the Senegambia region. And there are some traces found in Hebrew scripts in the Sahara-Sahel at the time. It’s also true that migrants from the North took place into the Sahara.

"According to Covitt, many ancient Malian manuscripts on a variety of subjects were written by Ambassadors of Peace. Between the 12th through 16th centuries, some 25,000 students came from around the world to study at the University of Sankoré in Timbuktu (a UNESCO World Heritage Site). “As a result, these manuscripts were written in many different languages, including some that were written in both Arabic and Hebrew."
(Source: Library of Congress, October 24, 2016 by Anchi Hoh)

“Saharan Jews’, moving us from Sijilmasa to Timbuktu by way of the Saharan oases Tuat, Akka and other areas of Jewish settlement in the region. In these contexts, I pay particular attention to the construction of group identity through mechanisms like trade, minority–majority relations and local religious practices. As I evaluate the concept of ‘Saharan Jews’ for better understanding Jewish history in North and sub-Saharan Africa, I simultaneously call for a more nuanced approach to the social imagination of Jewish identities in post-colonial African societies.”
(Aomar Boum, Saharan Jewry: history, memory and imagined identity, The Journal of North African Studies Volume 16, 2011 - Issue 3)

But to claim direct descent that is indeed insane. The original Hebrews have died out. All we see is some genetic remnants of these ancient people who actually came from Southern (Upper) Egypt. These ancient Hebrews were known as the Lachish. So it’s true that they were a Black people and African. That part is true. But the attachment as a direct descendant is odd.

“Risdon’s work (1939) is the only study that examines the Lachish series as its major focus. Using metric variables in the now credited Coefficient of Racial Likeness (C.R.L.) (Fisher, 1939; Seltzer, 1937; Howells, 1973), he concludes that the Lachish series represents Upper Egyptians, who were residents in Lower Egypt during the Eighteenth Dynasty and who immigrated to Lachish during that time (between 1567 and 1320 BC), remaining endogamous.”
(S. O. Y Keita, An analysis of crania from Tell-Duweir using multiple discriminant functions, 1988, American Journal of Physical Anthropology)

“Overall, when the Egyptian crania are evaluated in a Near Eastern (Lachish) versus African (Kerma, Jebel Moya, Ashanti) context, the affinity is with the Africans.”
(S. O.Y. Keita, Studies and Comments on Ancient Egyptian Biological Relationships, History in Africa Vol. 20 (1993), pp. 129-154, and International Journal of Anthropology volume 10, pages 107–123 (1995))


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"Scholars estimate that as many as 30% of the African slaves brought to the U.S., from West and Central African countries like Gambia and Cameroon, were Muslim."


"According to Allan D. Austin in African Muslims in Antebellum America, Islam had penetrated areas such as Senegal, Timbuktu, and the Lake Chad area in Africa by 1100 A.D. From these localities westward to the Atlantic Ocean, slave traders kidnapped the majority of their victims. The rise of European maritime trade in the 16th and 17th centuries triggered the decline of Islamic political supremacy and introduced new nations as world leaders."

 

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Black people think its empowering to soley claim Africa and Egypt,being the jews etc.


Meanwhile the European like "Good thing they dont claim indeginous,this land to expensive to give a piece back:whew:"
The issue is that Europeans are busying themselves with things like control of resources and power. History is just a byproduct. A lot of our people are worrying about some alleged ancient civilization and not focusing on the future.

I’m a history buff, but also into technology the foreseeable future.

The problem with most of these people like ABOS, Indigenous Moors, Black Hebrews etc is, that they can’t solve a basic math problem, yet claim to have built the most awesome and advanced civilizations. And this is how we have ended up with pseudo scholars.

This was displayed several times by QueButter. (He has a school with hundreds of students).



 
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People still arguing about egypt and native americans,
meanwhile i love hearing these stories about our west african roots
 

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Since that one thread with a coli breh who said there weren't enough slave ships to ship slaves over from Africa and there were millions of black people in America before Columbus arrived, I try to avoid these topics. I have more coherent discussions with dementia patients.


This is a very cool story though

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Wtf :dahell:
That sounds like nutjob babble

This is what we see in this thread.

Black Americans denying their roots and trynna adopt another race or ancestry. It’s so sad to see such a thing. These people are lost.

They really believe they are some type of Native Americans. That’s so fukked up
 

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Again you can claim anything. But you can't prove it, not a shred of evidence. Reality don't work like that. Europeans are not worried about your baseless claims because you decided you were a native. What type of an adult has such a fantastic child like mind? :skip:

With that type of logic I could claim your house and take it. No title deed nothing. Who cares about proof? :mjlol:
All of this can be debunked by these losers that think they are some lost tribe of Native Americans but a simple DNA test that can be done in a month.
 

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All of this can be debunked by these losers that think they are some lost tribe of Native Americans but a simple DNA test that can be done in a month.
They'll say the tests are inaccurate and that the technology doesn't factor in more than x generations and that cac scientists were biased and gathered mostly DNA samples from Europe so it can't accurately detect Native American DNA due to their population decrease
 

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This is what we see in this thread.

Black Americans denying their roots and trynna adopt another race or ancestry. It’s so sad to see such a thing. These people are lost.

They really believe they are some type of Native Americans. That’s so fukked up
It’s a relatively small group, but growing. The vast majority of Black Americans don’t align with that. The concerning thing is that young people can be influenced by these pseudo historians, because they are seeking...




This woman thinks she’s an Aboriginal.



However, these people to them are fake?

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9780671770716
 
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The Moor thing is particularly true. As around 25% of the enslaved was Muslim from the Senegambia region. And there are some traces found in Hebrew scripts in the Sahara-Sahel at the time. It’s also true that migrants from the North took place into the Sahara.

"According to Covitt, many ancient Malian manuscripts on a variety of subjects were written by Ambassadors of Peace. Between the 12th through 16th centuries, some 25,000 students came from around the world to study at the University of Sankoré in Timbuktu (a UNESCO World Heritage Site). “As a result, these manuscripts were written in many different languages, including some that were written in both Arabic and Hebrew."
(Source: Library of Congress, October 24, 2016 by Anchi Hoh)

“Saharan Jews’, moving us from Sijilmasa to Timbuktu by way of the Saharan oases Tuat, Akka and other areas of Jewish settlement in the region. In these contexts, I pay particular attention to the construction of group identity through mechanisms like trade, minority–majority relations and local religious practices. As I evaluate the concept of ‘Saharan Jews’ for better understanding Jewish history in North and sub-Saharan Africa, I simultaneously call for a more nuanced approach to the social imagination of Jewish identities in post-colonial African societies.”
(Aomar Boum, Saharan Jewry: history, memory and imagined identity, The Journal of North African Studies Volume 16, 2011 - Issue 3)

But to claim direct descent that is indeed insane. The original Hebrews have died out. All we see is some genetic remnants of these ancient people who actually came from Southern (Upper) Egypt. These ancient Hebrews were known as the Lachish. So it’s true that they were a Black people and African. That part is true. But the attachment as a direct descendant is odd.

“Risdon’s work (1939) is the only study that examines the Lachish series as its major focus. Using metric variables in the now credited Coefficient of Racial Likeness (C.R.L.) (Fisher, 1939; Seltzer, 1937; Howells, 1973), he concludes that the Lachish series represents Upper Egyptians, who were residents in Lower Egypt during the Eighteenth Dynasty and who immigrated to Lachish during that time (between 1567 and 1320 BC), remaining endogamous.”
(S. O. Y Keita, An analysis of crania from Tell-Duweir using multiple discriminant functions, 1988, American Journal of Physical Anthropology)

“Overall, when the Egyptian crania are evaluated in a Near Eastern (Lachish) versus African (Kerma, Jebel Moya, Ashanti) context, the affinity is with the Africans.”
(S. O.Y. Keita, Studies and Comments on Ancient Egyptian Biological Relationships, History in Africa Vol. 20 (1993), pp. 129-154, and International Journal of Anthropology volume 10, pages 107–123 (1995))


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"Scholars estimate that as many as 30% of the African slaves brought to the U.S., from West and Central African countries like Gambia and Cameroon, were Muslim."


"According to Allan D. Austin in African Muslims in Antebellum America, Islam had penetrated areas such as Senegal, Timbuktu, and the Lake Chad area in Africa by 1100 A.D. From these localities westward to the Atlantic Ocean, slave traders kidnapped the majority of their victims. The rise of European maritime trade in the 16th and 17th centuries triggered the decline of Islamic political supremacy and introduced new nations as world leaders."


Also, the Almoravid dynasty in Morocco were black or black skinned berbers. Moroccans were considered Moors.

Abu Baker ibn Umar founded the dynasty:

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Some Africans that were from the Kingdom of Kongo/Angola could have been Catholic. The Portuguese first contacted the Kingdom of Kongo in 1483. The Kongo king Nzinga was baptized in the 1490s and made it their official religion.

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They'll say the tests are inaccurate and that the technology doesn't factor in more than x generations and that cac scientists were biased and gathered mostly DNA samples from Europe so it can't accurately detect Native American DNA due to their population decrease
Those genealogy tests show your results from 6th generations ago. And keep in mind you count as a generation.


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If you’re using an autosomal test such as AncestryDNA, 23andMe, or MyHeritage, you’ll generally go back 6 to 8 generations. Assuming 25 years per generation, you can expect 150-200 years of DNA information by taking an autosomal DNA test.

How far back does AncestryDNA go?​

AncestryDNA tests use autosomal DNA, which determines your ethnicity. Therefore, the AncestryDNA test will go back about 6 to 8 generations or around 150-200 years.
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Also keep in mind people had kids a lot earlier than 25 years old back then.
 
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Also, the Almoravid dynasty in Morocco were black or black skinned berbers. Moroccans were considered Moors.

Abu Bake ibn Umar founded the dynasty:

Camel_Rider_1413_Mecia_Viladestes_map.jpg



Some Africans that were from the Kingdom of Kongo/Angola could have been Catholic. The Portuguese first contacted the Kingdom of Kongo in 1483. The Kongo king Nzinga was baptized in the 1490s and made it their official religion.

6-Congo-1.png

That’s true, but they were predominantly Tuareg and ethnic groups that aligned with the Tuareg in the Sahara. The Tuareg spread Islam into west Africa. So it’s true that there have been Black Moors. But these people claim to be the direct descendants. They do this with everything. A Black people doesn’t mean one is a direct descendant of that group of people.
 
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