Black family in Georgia passed down a song through the centuries after slavery. Researchers linked song to Mende tribe in West Africa.

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It always interests me how the Fulani who are said to be from Sudan originally or some part of North/East Africa and can pass for an East African have a language in the Niger Congo language group yet the darker Hausas who they heavily mix with but have a more West African phenotype speak an Afro Asiatic language(the second biggest after Arabic).
 

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I'll read them, but I just want to confirm, nobody is claiming the Tuareg. We don't have to, we're actually descended from African Muslims.


Bc you sounding kinda white right here, breh, like we stealing.
You remain to be funny so every now and then.

No, it’s not white sounding. The Moorish history is complicated. The Tuareg and related ethnic groups like the Zenata or Sanhaja spread Islam to west Africa. As you have shown the Fula adopted this from early on. Btw, Morgan Freeman and Tupac allegedly descended from the Kel (Tuareg).

Though Fula are socially closely related as well to the Tuareg (Kel), and depending on the sub cluster and location they can have genetic similarities. But most do not.

This is the consensus. I know it’s deeper and more complicated.

“The Almoravids, or al-Murabitun as they called themselves, were an Islamic Berber dynasty that established an empire in Morocco and eventually took it over a wide region of Northwest Africa including modern Morocco, Western Sahara, Mauritania, and part of Algeria.”.

“We also know that between 1042 and 1054, this peaceful spread of Mohammedanism took a violent turn when a fanatical religious movement known as the Almoravid movement arose among the Sanhaja Berbers in the Sahara region to the north of ancient Ghana.
 

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You remain to be funny so every now and then.

No, it’s not white sounding. The Moorish history is complicated. The Tuareg and related ethnic groups like the Zenata or Sanhaja spread Islam to west Africa. As you have shown the Fula adopted this from early on. Btw, Morgan Freeman and Tupac allegedly descended from the Kel (Tuareg).
:skip: I didn't know that, but if you did, it further begs the question: what even are you arguing?

Again, you said,

That’s true, but they were predominantly Tuareg and ethnic groups that aligned with the Tuareg in the Sahara. The Tuareg spread Islam into west Africa. So it’s true that there have been Black Moors. But these people claim to be the direct descendants. They do this with everything. A Black people doesn’t mean one is a direct descendant of that group of people.
This sound like a salty ofay commenting under ancient Egypt videos. What's going on here, my intellectual brethren? :jbhmm:
 

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:skip: I didn't know that, but if you did, it further begs the question: what even are you arguing?
My initial argument was and is that Islam was spread to west Africa by Tuareg.

Again, you said,
One can’t claim out of the blue to be a descendant of the Moors, as in the Moorish empire.

This sound like a salty ofay commenting under ancient Egypt videos. What's going on here, my intellectual brethren? :jbhmm:
Not sure what you mean, but to stick to the Moorish empire. And yeah, ancient Egyptians were a Black people, but it was Southern (Upper) Egyptians. I have been there, have seen the murals and status. It’s them. This is also what physical anthropology explains. Are there relationships between the Nile Valley culture and other parts of Africa, yes.

Depending on the region of the Iberian peninsula, different groups ruled over the Iberian peninsula.

However, the suggestion is that all Black Muslims were Moors or had anything to do with the Moorish empire. That I can’t agree with.

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Not sure what you mean, but to stick to the Moorish empire.

Depending on the region of the Iberian peninsula, different groups ruled over the Iberian peninsula.

However, the suggestion is that all Black Muslims were Moors or had anything to do with the Moorish empire. That I can’t agree with.
I went back through the thread. You doing all this to disprove a video posted by @Still Benefited? No offense to him, but really? :beli:
 

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I went back through the thread. You doing all this to disprove a video posted by @Still Benefited? No offense to him, but really? :beli:
No, not all. I said that I was going to put out information that will discredit the ABOS click. It went from one thing to another and we ended up with Moors, Hebrews ancient Egyptians. Are there connections, yes. But are “we” all directly related to these ancient people. No!

Zeinab Badawi made a 21 part series on African history. Very informative



Another wonderful series is Lost Kingdoms of Africa, 4 part series. He also goes into the Moorish history, as he visits Morocco and speaks to Moroccan scholars. They do admit the Moors had dark skin (black).



So I am not dismissing the historical connections. I do acknowledge these. But neither do I dismiss other parts of ancient African history. I rather seek for the connections between the known and missing links.

As of now I watching this. This woman is insane. She claims that English and Spanish are languages that were spoken on the North American continent by her ancestors pre Columbus and more insane stuff like that. She claims that slavery was in reverse and whites were enslaved by Blacks aka the “real black Indians”. I’m at 1:15:00. The more she says the craziest it gets!

“Chief Morning Thunder Explain Why She Knows She Is Aboriginal American Indian, (Sister Bethy)” at 1:27:30 she made fun of her supposed headdress, when Chris Harris asked her about the origin of the headdress.


This this the actual headdress, macaw headdress.


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The issue is that Europeans are busying themselves with things like control of resources and power. History is just a byproduct. A lot of our people are worrying about some alleged ancient civilization and not focusing on the future.

I’m a history buff, but also into technology the foreseeable future.

The problem with most of these people like ABOS, Indigenous Moors, Black Hebrews etc is, that they can’t solve a basic math problem, yet claim to have built the most awesome and advanced civilizations. And this is how we have ended up with pseudo scholars.

This was displayed several times by QueButter. (He has a school with hundreds of students).







The Europeans are your lower self,they are supposed to be preocuppied with going against nature. They arent wise enough to see that in the future it will be their undoing. You are short sighted due to your short lifespan and European programming. Blame it on our European programming if black people are only impressed with the so called "advanced civilizations". When they could easily be impressed with melenated people living indegenously if their minds werent so corrupted.





The European is more confused than you make them out to be. The "experts" have even begun to question their own narratives. But the fact natives have been shown to have aboriginal,melanisian dna proves what Ive been saying. There are people among those groups who look "black". Meaning there were black natives already here. Now,they are doing research to find traces of it within modern day Native Americans in North America. But are they looking for it within modern day African Americans?



And the problem is if you do one of these ancestry test,its likely to say "native". And all that will happen is it will be assumed your great great great grandaddy from Africa fukked a pocahontas indian. Not that his ancestors were #AlreadyHere:respect:



But believe what yall want to believe,Im only here to tell you the possibilities,and what needs to be looked at based on my observations.


The black natives would have been grouped in with the black africans as a homogenous people during the slave trade.
 

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The Europeans are your lower self,they are supposed to be preocuppied with going against nature. They arent wise enough to see that in the future it will be their undoing. You are short sighted due to your short lifespan and European programming. Blame it on our European programming if black people are only impressed with the so called "advanced civilizations". When they could easily be impressed with melenated people living indegenously if their minds werent so corrupted.





The European is more confused than you make them out to be. The "experts" have even begun to question their own narratives. But the fact natives have been shown to have aboriginal,melanisian dna proves what Ive been saying. There are people among those groups who look "black". Meaning there were black natives already here. Now,they are doing research to find traces of it within modern day Native Americans in North America. But are they looking for it within modern day African Americans?



And the problem is if you do one of these ancestry test,its likely to say "native". And all that will happen is it will be assumed your great great great grandaddy from Africa fukked a pocahontas indian. Not that his ancestors were #AlreadyHere:respect:



But believe what yall want to believe,Im only here to tell you the possibilities,and what needs to be looked at based on my observations.


The black natives would have been grouped in with the black africans as a homogenous people during the slave trade.

Where is the evidence? Go read all that I have posted that debunked the shyt out of your little pseudo intellectual rant, here.

My advice to you is to put down the crack pipe. Because it certainly did damage, as we can see in the aftermath of the crack epidemic.

With individuals like you we as Black people cannot achieve anything. You are exactly the part of the problem why we as a people are in these horrible conditions!!

The comical part is that you are posting this on the internet, arguing about “programming”.

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The Genetic Structure of Pacific Islanders

“Melanesian origin for C-M38, C-M208, and M-M4 (Kayser et al. 2001, 2003). Because P34 and M254 occurred on the background of M4 and M230 “

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“Thirteen of the 18 haplogroups previously observed in African populations were observed in the African American populations: L1a, L1b, L1c, L2a, L2b, L2c, L3b, L3d, L3e1, L3e2, L3e3, L3e4, and L3f”
(Derek C. Johnson et al., Mitochondrial DNA. 2015 Jun; 26(3): 445–451. , Mitochondrial DNA diversity in the African American population

Tell, how does the internet work? What is needed to make this technology fully operational 24/7. Let’s talk technology!

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Where is the evidence? Go read all that I have posted that debunked the shyt out of your little pseudo intellectual rant, here.

My advice to you is to put down the crack pipe. Because it certainly did damage, as we can see in the aftermath of the crack epidemic.

With individuals like you we as Black people cannot achieve anything. You are exactly the part of the problem why we as a people are in these horrible conditions!!

The comical part is that you are posting this on the internet, arguing about “programming”.

Tell, how does the internet work? What is needed to make this technology fully operational 24/7. Let’s talk technology!

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If Im stopping black peoples dreams of being just like the white man,also known as the global cancer,I can live with that.


Lets just get you on the record. You are saying there were no natives who would be considered "black" in the Americas prior to slavery?


Try using some emotional intelligence in your response this time. Remember,the ignore list is only one click away:respect:
 

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If Im stopping black peoples dreams of being just like the white man,also known as the global cancer,I can live with that.


Lets just get you on the record. You are saying there were no natives who would be considered "black" in the Americas prior to slavery?


Try using some emotional intelligence in your response this time. Remember,the ignore list is only one click away:respect:
People, this was another deep scientific researched peer reviewed source being put on display. I am stun and amazed by the deep pondering.

I can care less who wants to ignore me for posting the facts. I said what I said and I backed it up with facts. No fantasy babble here.
 
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People, this was another deep scientific researched peer reviewed source being put on display. I am stun and amazed by the deep pondering.

I can care less who wants to ignore me for posting the facts. I said what I said and I backed it up with facts. No fantasy babble here.


Its no rush,Ill be here when your ready to go on record:respect:
 

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The Europeans are your lower self,they are supposed to be preocuppied with going against nature. They arent wise enough to see that in the future it will be their undoing. You are short sighted due to your short lifespan and European programming. Blame it on our European programming if black people are only impressed with the so called "advanced civilizations". When they could easily be impressed with melenated people living indegenously if their minds werent so corrupted.





The European is more confused than you make them out to be. The "experts" have even begun to question their own narratives. But the fact natives have been shown to have aboriginal,melanisian dna proves what Ive been saying. There are people among those groups who look "black". Meaning there were black natives already here. Now,they are doing research to find traces of it within modern day Native Americans in North America. But are they looking for it within modern day African Americans?



And the problem is if you do one of these ancestry test,its likely to say "native". And all that will happen is it will be assumed your great great great grandaddy from Africa fukked a pocahontas indian. Not that his ancestors were #AlreadyHere:respect:



But believe what yall want to believe,Im only here to tell you the possibilities,and what needs to be looked at based on my observations.


The black natives would have been grouped in with the black africans as a homogenous people during the slave trade.

Australian aborigines are not black Americans and did not come from them. You misunderstood the research
 

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Its no rush,Ill be here when your ready to go on record:respect:
The only true dream the white man has is to denounce the existence and history of slavery, which includes the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments! You know that far right wing white man, that has you on his payroll…

Speaking of records!

“On April 16, 1862, the District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act became law. Originally sponsored by Senator Henry Wilson of Massachusetts, the act freed slaves in the District of Columbia and compensated owners up to $300 for each freeperson. In the months following the enactment of the law, commissioners approved more than 930 petitions, granting freedom to 2,989 former slaves.”

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"An inscription on the Liberty Place monument in New Orleans, added in 1934, reads: "United States troops took over the state government and reinstated the usurpers but the national election of November 1876 recognized white supremacy in the South and gave us our state."

"William T. Thompson, the editor of the Savannah-based Daily Morning News, argued against the original Confederate flag, in an editorial on April 23, 1863, “on account of its resemblance to that of the abolition despotism against which we are fighting,” and in favor of the new flag, which he called “The White Man’s Flag.” His argument in favor of the new flag was that “As a people we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.” 1 Furthermore, the Confederacy that this flag represented was formed with the explicit purpose of maintaining slavery and white supremacy, as can be plainly seen from The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States."
 
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