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Doesn't matter.

Saying: Blacks go to movies, is like saying Latinos go to movies.

So?

This isn't nothing new.

Thats kinda the point.

It'd be nice if movie directors had more black actors...but why? Just to send a social message? Or to cater to their audience?

Because truth be told, the main audience of EVERY piece of culture from the 1900s TO NOW is still white people.

White people buy more albums.

White people buy more tickets.

White people buy more merch.

White people buy more of everything....WHY?....BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE WHITE PEOPLE. :snoop:
 

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He's right though. There's a movie reality and then there's real reality.

You have studios setting movies and tv shows in large urban areas like New York and LA where there are huge minority populations but, the entire cast is white. New York City is 28% Hispanic, 33% Non-Hispanic White, 23% Non-Hispanic Black, 13% Asian. Yet you watch How I Met Your Mother, Sex and the City or Friends, and those shows would make you believe New York is full of cacs :rudy:

The areas of NYC they're set in are :mjpls:
 

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american blacks have enough pull and capital to fund, produce, and distribute movies like this. they would make their money back thrice over at least. oprah, tp, spike, cosby, etc (most of which i can't stand) could easily make a movie about the maroons, the real history of the slave trade, how it has impacted blacks, how our own apathy is destroying our culture/communities, how the music/media targeting blacks is more destructive than productive...and meant to "keep us in our place". promote ideas that we can act on in our own everyday lives to make a real impact. some tragic, but uplifting and motivational sh1t.

the problem is they're scared. notice how almost every movie that shows the tragedy black americans or american indians endured, what ends up happening? a white person always has to be the protagonist. that's the only way it makes it to the screen. the movie becomes about them and not about us. the blacks with the capital, connects and know-how to make this type of industry shift happen don't want to risk alienating their industry connects or infuriating the media henchmen that put them on...aka their handlers. they've sold their souls, more or less.

white hollywood and media won't promote black upliftment unless it benefits them, but even then they don't want to see that happen because then we're not under their spell anymore. our people at the top need to stop being b!tchmade and take risks. stop worrying about what white hollywood will think. stop promoting lame azz movies like the butler and all this bullsh1t tp keeps putting out. it annoys the sh1t out of me that some of these same industry people like oprah and cosby point the finger at blacks for not doing our part, which is also true, but they need to accept that they have leverage and resources to do more than they do. i'm about holding all of us including myself to a higher standard, but we have to put pressure on them as well. they really don't have a good excuse. we can do this without white hollywood.

that is the whole irony of the situation. We have the money. We have the resources. And the right people to make it all happen. Your exactly right in that regard. And I think a lot of their reluctance to produce anything of real substance is a combination of fear, a lack of vision, and a lack of concern.
And I believe a lack of vision is the main culprit here. And this often applies to many blacks who've reached that pinnacle of success.
 
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Doesn't matter.

Saying: Blacks go to movies, is like saying Latinos go to movies.

So?

This isn't nothing new.

Thats kinda the point.

It'd be nice if movie directors had more black actors...but why? Just to send a social message? Or to cater to their audience?

Because truth be told, the main audience of EVERY piece of culture from the 1900s TO NOW is still white people.

White people buy more albums.

White people buy more tickets.

White people buy more merch.

White people buy more of everything....WHY?....BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE WHITE PEOPLE. :snoop:
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https://www.movieguide.org/news-articles/hollywood-demographics-2.html
42% of movie audiences are minorities. Let that sink in for a minute. Do 42% of movies feature minorities in major roles/target minority audiences? Now ask yourself again why that is?
 

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:stopitslime:
https://www.movieguide.org/news-articles/hollywood-demographics-2.html
42% of movie audiences are minorities. Let that sink in for a minute. Do 42% of movies feature minorities in major roles/target minority audiences? Now ask yourself again why that is?

Money.

Marketing of movies doesn't change how movies are ultimately watched. Studios can't secure budgets if they can't prove that they can make their money back and trying to predict how "minorities" will view it.

Also. Define "minority" ...no way that means BLACK.

You're better off just supporting you and yours rather than asking for hollywood to support a niche simply because they want to make you feel better.

Its about money at the end of the day.
 

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Money.

Marketing of movies doesn't change how movies are ultimately watched. Studios can't secure budgets if they can't prove that they can make their money back and trying to predict how "minorities" will view it.

Also. Define "minority" ...no way that means BLACK.

You're better off just supporting you and yours rather than asking for hollywood to support a niche simply because they want to make you feel better.

Its about money at the end of the day.

You're not really sayin anything, you just continue to dodge the obvious. :russ: at "they can't prove that they can make their money back and trying to predict how "minorities" will view it." That's what marketing folks are for. Why do you think they're falling over themselves to work with Tyler Perry now?:comeon:


And its not about "making me feel better". The racism is so ingrained in the system that they're losing out on money. The bet article showed that on average black people spend more on movies than white people. So what sense does it make to not have more movies featuring and targeting blacks?:dwillhuh:
 

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You're not really sayin anything, you just continue to dodge the obvious. :russ: at "they can't prove that they can make their money back and trying to predict how "minorities" will view it." That's what marketing folks are for. Why do you think they're falling over themselves to work with Tyler Perry now?:comeon:


And its not about "making me feel better". The racism is so ingrained in the system that they're losing out on money. The bet article showed that on average black people spend more on movies than white people. So what sense does it make to not have more movies featuring and targeting blacks?:dwillhuh:

Tyler Perry MAKES MONEY.

Thats why Eddie Murphy is the #1 grossing movie star (I think) OF ALL TIME.

Thats the fukking point.

And are you really going to trust BET on an article about black spending habits vs whites? :stopitslime:







oh and i'll throw you a bone. Yes. Black faces don't represent a majority of people in this country so even if they do buy the shyt, there is no incentive to truly put black faces on TV.

You happy?
 

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Tyler Perry MAKES MONEY.

Thats why Eddie Murphy is the #1 grossing movie star (I think) OF ALL TIME.

Thats the fukking point.

And are you really going to trust BET on an article about black spending habits vs whites? :stopitslime:







oh and i'll throw you a bone. Yes. Black faces don't represent a majority of people in this country so even if they do buy the shyt, there is no incentive to truly put black faces on TV.

You happy?


:russ: Keep up the good fight man.
 

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Will Smith had an Egypt movie in the works about Taharqa . Nothing ever came of it tho. :leostare:
 

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I go to see a lot of movies in theaters. However you won't often find me in the theater watching the movies directed towards the African-American audience (Tyler Perry, Bullcrap rom-coms) because it's garbage for the most part.

If you look at the highest grossing films, the majority of them are action/sci-fi/fantasy. As much as I would love to see a big-budget high quality blockbuster with primarily black actors and actresses, it's hard to justify its existence from a financial standpoint.

Your typical Madea/Think Like A Man crowd wrinkles their nose up at sci-fi/fantasy and would probably watch Sex in the City over a black Lord Of The Rings or Star Wars.

Whites and other minorities wouldn't appreciate all the black faces and would decide to watch something else.

That in itself is a big problem. Social conditioning.
 
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