Black dads outperform other fathers groups so where does the absentee father myth come from?

Did you have a good father?

  • Yes?

    Votes: 121 74.2%
  • No?

    Votes: 42 25.8%

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badtguy

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That is rare to me, because every Black person that I ever met knew who their father was. He might not have been worth a damn, but they knew who he was. The only time that I have ever heard of a person that did not know who their father was due to rape or the mothers being on some hoe shyt. Otherwise people knew their father or knew of his family.

I said I grew up in the height of the Crack Era. Many dudes on my block had crack and heroine addicts as mothers. In my gf family she the only one who actually had a dad around-and he was on crack, not active in her life for the earlier part of her life.

In regards to people knowing their dads, a lot was speculation on who their dad was it was never confirmed.

I wouldn't call a crackhead a hoe, because they aren't in their right mind. :yeshrug:
 

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This is interesting because I grew up PG county too and alot of the dudes in my neighborhood didn't have their dads in the house. I'd say like half of my friends dads wasn't in the house. True story, I lived around the corner from Ginuwine's oldest son. We went to school together and everything. Now his dad wasn't in the house but he would come take him to shyt like All-Star weekend so that counts as being involved I guess. But some of the other dudes in my neighborhood had single moms and went to see their dads occasionally.

I grew up in a PG from like high school and up.

And even in pg it depends on where you live although pg is black there are certain areas that differ there is classism. I'm out Bowie.

Coming from Brooklyn, to bmore, to PG was a big difference in lifestyle and what I saw how people interacted. I never seen big houses, black families intact etc.
 

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LOL at the minority of black population, fatherless, fighting with the realization that they are not normal. Their situation and the communities of b*stard children isn't the black experience. LOL

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There is no one black experience.

A nikka growing up in an area that has broken families, drugs, murders, no pops around ain't gonna experience the same as a Nikka that grew up in an all black area where father's were in the house, who work and make sure their kids stay outta trouble.

It's really not that serious or hard to understand.

My life from 7-13 is completely different than my life from 14-18. Based on the areas I lived and who I lived with.
 

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:mjlol: No good fathers yet we’re at now 75 percent saying they had good fathers.

Also folks are not taking into account socioeconomics and location. Kats are painting this with a broad brush.

You are more likely to grow up around black families with the father in the house in middle, upper class and upper upper class neighborhoods. You are also far more likely to grow up around black families with a father in the house in the southern rural town the say a big city.

But this is the same of all groups.

So when people say man I don't believe people that say they grew up in neighborhoods with black fathers in the house that is an ignorant statement unless you know where these folks grew up.

For example I grew up in one if the most affluent neighborhoods in chicago. Pretty much most of the black people in my neighborhood were professionals or owned businesses who were married with kids.

This isn't a rare situation actually it is just a economical situation. Case in point go into most corporate american jobs and I bet 70% of the black people (as well as other races) are married.
 
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Yo.... I have no clue where the fukk some of u niggsz are from...
Maybe some black utopia, where all black women are queens and all black men are kings that are in their kids lives...
I only knew 1 kid that knew his father and had him around...
His father was around but his mother was a crack head and wasn't around.

If u knew ur father or if he was around in ur life that shyt was wayyyyyy unique...

I did know 1 other kid that had both his parents... he was muslim
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Fact. Certain posters like to flip flop on topics.

According to them there was no Crack epidemic or war on drugs that was used to break up black families, black father's in the 90s were not incarcerated wrongly or given un fair time for petty crimes.

Black father's didnt face job discrimination forcing black women to step up financially, creating the whole I don't need a man mentality.

Also there was no housing policy that forced black men out of their households.

Nothing affected a large portion of black families.

Everyone gucci.:russ:
 

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Also folks are not taking into account socioeconomics and location. Kats are painting this with a broad brush.

You are more likely to grow up around black families with the father in the house in middle, upper class and upper upper class neighborhoods. You are also far more likely to grow up around black families with a father in the house in the southern rural town the say a big city.

But this is the same of all groups.

So when people say man I don't believe people that say they grew up in neighborhoods with black fathers in the house that is an ignorant statement unless you know where these folks grew up.

For example I grew up in one if the most affluent neighborhoods in chicago. Pretty much most of the black people in my neighborhood were professionals or owned business who were married with kids.

This isn't a rare situation actually it is just a economical situation. Case in point go into most corporate american jobs and I bet 70% of the black people (as well as other races) are married.


Fact. This is What People Should agree too Instead Of Acting Like It Doesn't exist.
 

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:what:
There is no one black experience.

A nikka growing up in an area that has broken families, drugs, murders, no pops around ain't gonna experience the same as a Nikka that grew up in an all black area where father's were in the house, who work and make sure their kids stay outta trouble.

It's really not that serious or hard to understand.

My life from 7-13 is completely different than my life from 14-18. Based on the areas I lived and who I lived with.

Exactly dudes are idiots here. My wife is from the rural country. A town with 4k folks. My wife neighborhood was a place where black folks lived amoungst each other no matter their economical situation.

So the uneducated family on food stamps lived next to the middle class family with a college degree who lived next to the richest black man in the town who owned the factory where a lot of folks worked at.

My wife also grew up where most kids knew how to hunt, shoot guns, ride horses and chop fire wood.

So folks need to understand as you said the black experience is diverse and isnt always about living on section 8, not knowing who your dad is and selling dope.
 

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I said I grew up in the height of the Crack Era. Many dudes on my block had crack and heroine addicts as mothers. In my gf family she the only one who actually had a dad around-and he was on crack, not active in her life for the earlier part of her life.

In regards to people knowing their dads, a lot was speculation on who their dad was it was never confirmed.

I wouldn't call a crackhead a hoe, because they aren't in their right mind. :yeshrug:

Unless it some rape type bullshyt; then if a woman does not know who the father of her child is then ... :yeshrug:

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I feel like OP doesn't know shyt about Math, but I certainly had and still have my father in my life. My parents were always married, no divorce, break up or anything like that.
 

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Reading these comments is making me sad, because we are mostly black people, but don't look at WHY we have the experiences we have!

It's like whatever whites say, we agree with even though its our own lives. Why aren't people putting the different eras into play as to why black fathers may not be in their kids lives? A lot of black men went to prison trying to get money to feed their families. A lot just came from the Vietnam war, and came back fukked up by either being on drugs or having PTSD. The government just shytted on black Vietnam vets. Then we went through the drug war where if they weren't killed or sent to prison, they became addicts. We can judge NOW, but back then drugs were not normal like it is now, no one knew they would get addicted like that. Then you have the men now who grew up without fathers, but fear marriage, because if it fails you are shyt out of luck as a black man, that doesn't mean they aren't in their kids lives. Also, a lot might not live in the home, but that doesn't mean they aren't in their kids lives. You don't know if they talk to their kids on the phone daily, and see them on the weekends.

How is it we are black men, but just have this idea that black men hate being fathers, and run away? Yes, some do, but a lot just get caught up by the traps made for us. And if you aren't ADOS, I don't think you can speak on this unless your family was here during the Vietnam war, because you have no idea how that shyt really fukked a lot of black men up mentally & financially. Please, don't take it as a dis, but unless you have ties to an experience you can't compare your life to someone else.


We are black, our story is very unique, and I'm tried of other blacks just repeating what racist whites say, ignoring the nuances that created this issue.
 
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