"Black athletes get with white women cause white woman play the long game more than black women"

[DrBanneker]

If you have older Black men who are full/majority providers who ALL got married BEFORE having kids and MAJORITY have graduate degrees and they want you with the same caliber of man, YES, THEY WILL COACH THIS PLAY

Lol these are the type of men in my extended family and this play is never coached. The play is always expanding your social circle and asking friends/colleagues for suitors.

If she brings home someone else they won't trip but they aren't going to be like "you better look for an IR option".

Honestly this is something I only hear from Hispanic or Asian women.

Isn't this thread originally about how BW could help themselves in courtship behavior to beat out these ww? How did it become BM don't want a wife and IR is the way out?

 

[Gloxina]

I am not trying to down or control BW when I say this but unfortunately it doesn't work en masse like that for BM or BW anywhere. US Blacks have the lowest IR rates of the diaspora in non majority Black countries.

Go to Canada or the UK or France. IR is everywhere and what you automatically notice is that most bm or bw at the top (by most metrics) are not with each other.

I remember working in Brazil and the educated Black women were amazed at the attention they got from educated American bm. Brazilian top bm disproportionately marry ww and the vice versa for the women.

This "options" stuff basically devolves into everyone chasing their "best" option which ends up usually not being Black.

The marriage market theory you indirectly allude to assumes BM play the field and won't marry BW bc there is an excess successful (not overall numbers) BW and by dating out BW can force BM to compete.

Just look at the West Coast, all that actually happens is a race out the door. Bm go IR, bw go IR, bm don't up their game to bw but go even more IR in response. BW follow suit...

We aren't all going to make it by being Robert Smith or Melody Hobson.

Oh- I get it. That’s essentially what I’m saying. The people at the top might not end up with a Black partner.
But all Black ppl aren’t at the top.


If all the college-aged Black women wanted to find someone to marry while in school, and there are 15 of those girls for every 1 breh, that means that 14 of those girls would need to end up with a man of a different race if they are intentional about finding an equally yoked partner while in college. All this talk about choosing a man when you’re in your prime— choose from the men around you.

If you’re an upwardly-mobile college girl be on your A game and pay attention to the guys who are paying attention to you, even if they aren’t Black. Because the upwardly-mobile brehs are paying attention to the girls of other races who are around them.

If you’re a working class girl with a regular job —no shade— and you are usually coming in contact with solid middle class blue collar brehs, pick from your pool. <— and that’s majority of us.

For both groups, it’s the woman’s job to determine if the guy is interested in something serious. If not, keep it pushing regardless of race.

 

[Boxchevy]

Black women are living life on their own terms while actively whining and complaining on social media (like every draft) about generational wealth leaving the community. The whole reason this thread was started and the OP posted that video, was because the video was in response to black women doing the same ol song and dance of complaining about seeing black men trick on white women instead of tricking on them. If black men are ultimately running game, being bad faith actors, and will ultimately either cheat on becky or end up being a bad mate, than why all the whining, thinkpieces, etc? At the end of the day, these are athletes. Their lifes work is gonna be based on what they do on the court, not who they sleep with. Yet, when it comes to black women the discourse always ends up exclusively about who's he fukkin.

The pickme's are crying like they always do, which is ironically the women that black men have the least respect for and never pick..LOL...We all have eyes sir...

 

[Marc Spector]

I am not trying to down or control BW when I say this but unfortunately it doesn't work en masse like that for BM or BW anywhere. US Blacks have the lowest IR rates of the diaspora in non majority Black countries.

Go to Canada or the UK or France. IR is everywhere and what you automatically notice is that most bm or bw at the top (by most metrics) are not with each other.

I remember working in Brazil and the educated Black women were amazed at the attention they got from educated American bm. Brazilian top bm disproportionately marry ww and the vice versa for the women.

This "options" stuff basically devolves into everyone chasing their "best" option which ends up usually not being Black.

The marriage market theory you indirectly allude to assumes BM play the field and won't marry BW bc there is an excess of successful (not overall numbers) BW and by dating out BW can force BM to compete. This is all over the sociology literature but has never been proven or demonstrated in practice.

Just look at the West Coast, all that actually happens is a race out the door. Bm go IR, bw go IR, bm don't up their game to bw but go even more IR in response. BW follow suit...

We aren't all going to make it by being Robert Smith or Melody Hobson.

solid post but I will push back on the idea that black women on the West Coast are procreating with non-black men. It’s not really a thing , at least in any significant number. shyt the only black woman I even have heard of on the West Coast that has a child by a non-black man is the porn star Stacy Adams.

 

[Gloxina]

Lol these are the type of men in my extended family and this play is never coached. The play is always expanding your social circle and asking friends/colleagues for suitors.

If she brings home someone else they won't trip but they aren't going to be like "you better look for an IR option".

Honestly this is something I only hear from Hispanic or Asian women.

Isn't this thread originally about how BW could help themselves in courtship behavior to beat out these ww? How did it become BM don't want a wife and IR is the way out?

I’m not saying IR is the way out. I’m saying IR is a viable option, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR OWN MEN EXERCISE THAT OPTION.

Only like ~35% of brehs get married (only ~25/28% of BW get married I believe, or that only jumps when you get to the mid/late
30s/40), and of that like what, 15% or so marry interracially?
If Black women want to be married yea, some are going to have to date out.

And breh, we gon keep it real. I’m not saying they want me to date interracially, but at some point you have to acknowledge that it’s a numbers game.
If you have a family full of sisters and female cousins, they all gonna get the high earning brehs? If the goal is making sure they all marry someone who will provide the best life possible for a family common sense says they have a greater chance if they expand those options. It is what it is.

 

[Insensitive]

How can black women 'build' around a culture of men who preach not to settle down until they are 40 plus and to exercise their 'options' even when they do settle down. Do yall ever really listen to yalls self talk and reflect on what yall are advocating for to black women??...

I don't know who those people are.
And frankly, I don't care about this internet shyt man.

I'm just talkin' about my PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.


Like I've said many times before on here, I got it out the mud breh.
Fallin' asleep on trains and buses while working two jobs.
Bank account constantly at $0.
Making no more than $15k a year.
Scrambling every couple years to a new spot then wondering if I was
going to get kicked out.
County buildin' visits ALL THAT!

But I kept school as a goal the entire time.
And school paid the fukk off.

In all that time, I only met ONE black woman who "Saw my potential".
And she was taken care of once I got on, until she voluntarily fukked it up.

During this period, I pulled women, I had fun but no one took me seriously
and many definitely thought I was going to be stuck where they met me at

A lot of people double backed though once I got the "Big Boy" job.
But they wasn't with me shootin' in the gym.

 

[DrBanneker]

there are 15 of those girls for every 1 breh

I get your point but LOL, nowhere near that ratio exists for Black women on any major campus. Some HBCUS are up to 3:1 but that is the max.

 

[skyrunner1]

I get your point but LOL, nowhere near that ratio exists for Black women on any major campus. Some HBCUS are up to 3:1 but that is the max.

They already told you majority of men dont exist.. 80% get cut by default.. They all fighting for the top and complain about why the numbers dont work for them

 

[Insensitive]

Really at the end of the day both races of women want the same thing, your money and everything positive that's attached to it (Status, power, etc) It's just white women have been taught the art of seduction.

White women have been taught by their parents or they mamas the tips to SEDUCING a man and getting what you need. It's a long term MENTAL game that will pay off AS they go thru it and that's why they have no problem paying for cups of coffees or picking up the check on a date cuz its an investment to a future house/car/children/status/wealth they will receive in the future.

A lot of sisters have been taught to get in and get out while getting as much as possible in the process. No mental game at all just focus on the physical for seduction.

Basically athletes are high performing stocks to many white women and many sisters see these same athletes like drug game or those Covid loans everybody was getting.

This encapsulates what I've seen with women.

They know who they're talking to, why they're doing it and exactly what it means for their potential
family.

Whereas I've met a lot of minority women (not just black women) who have this "I'll do it by myself !!! I don't care!!!" mentality.

Marriage.
A house.
Cash flowing and appreciating assets.
They don't care to find out why nor do they see how having a partner who is down, will help them
gain all of these things considerably faster (if they ever gain them).


Don't let her ALREADY be a Baby mama who's going to school to be a Nurse/Social Worker/Guidance Counselor/Human Resources Partner
that is determined to graduate from one of the "For Profit" Universities to show her "haters" how it's done.

You literally will not be able to tell her shyt.

I've had this experience so many times that I just throw my hands up in the air.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Thirteen pages and counting. Folkers consistently entertain self-destructive fyckery.

 

[AAKing23]

How can black women 'build' around a culture of men who preach not to settle down until they are 40 plus and to exercise their 'options' even when they do settle down. Do yall ever really listen to yalls self talk and reflect on what yall are advocating for to black women??...

No, This is the culture that women created and men have adapted to. If Black women were trying to be wifed up and were actively putting the full court press on dudes, it wouldn't be this way.

Modern BW do not want to be wives, they literally say this

 

[AAKing23]

Black people are broke. Bw in college be extra broke. Just breathing collegiate air puts us in debt. We don't have familial support. We paying for EVERYTHING.

So, really, what yall saying is, the white man's reward for raping and pillaging the planet is that his daughters can afford to go buy a bm of her own.

Not an excuse, our community is collectively broke but that doesn't stop BW from buying shyt they want

 

[AAKing23]

Black women can't afford a coffee date now?

Men don't give a shyt about the quality of restaurant unless its their birthday or shyt. Take a nikka to McDonalds for a date. They in college how sophisticated are they taste supposed to be?

Let me guess, she can afford nails, hair, make up but a 10 dollar investment into securing a potential multi millionaire is too much?

Facts, they can afford all this luxury shyt and vacations tho

 

[RamsayBolton]

Thirteen pages and counting. Folkers consistently entertain self-destructive fyckery.

Naw there were super interesting discussions on gender dynamics in our community ITT

 

[AAKing23]

That’s the game my boy. It’s not their fault, but I see too many BW treat the game like they have leverage but majority don’t. The ratio of “acceptable” BM to BW is all off due to the prison complex, racism etc. Add in the fact that despite Twitter opinions interracial relationships are not as taboo as they once were, now you’re competing in a global market. Unless you look like Jordyn Woods you probably don’t have as much leverage as you think. And sorry ladies I say this speaking as a man those degrees will never matter to an equal weight as looks, that’s the game.

None of this is black women fault but I think women in general have a hard time adjusting to the “dating market” based on their attributes and doing an honest self-assessment.

Now as a black woman you might get lucky to get a god fearing man who just wants you, but a lot of well off black men are just taking advantage of their leverage

Shaming tactics on Twitter DO NOT WORK in real life.

Supply demand economics. More demand there is the with lack of supply, prices have to go up. In this case this is the price black women have to pay to get a well off black man are you going to adjust or air your grievances on Twitter to an echo chamber of other single women? Not their fault but don’t hate the playa hate the game

When I say this I’m speaking in general terms, before someone comes and say “THAT WASNT MY STORY”

Exactly, BW do not have the leverage they think they have, they refuse to realize and accept this and don't move as if time is of the essence when it's their enemy